Classic Albums I have never heard

Trollheart · 06-03-2013, 09:38 AM

Thanks for all the replies guys. Few comments then:

Close to the edge: why are you guys so surprised I've never heard this? I've made it plain that I have only heard and enjoyed "later" Yes, from 90125 on, and that what I heard of "classic Yes" I thought overlong, boring and pretentious and I lost interest quickly in it. That said, yes I understand it's a classic prog album which is why it's on the list.

Sex Pistols: No. I don't care how classic it may be seen as, I bloody HATE the SP and everything they stood for. I have no intention of ever listening to them, and it's not because I'm scared, or they're outside my comfort zone: it's simply that I dislike them so much. No punk fan, I!

Urban: never stepped out of my comfort zone? You're talking to the guy who fearlessly went where other reviewers fear to tread, deep into the wilds of Boybandland. I still wake shivering every few nights about that! And have you not seen "The Meat Grinder"? Still, yes, I don't tend to push myself very much but you see I don't want to. I'm happy to listen to music for enjoyment, not to show how diverse a taste I have, like you, Jack or Goofle. Don't need that validation thanks. But I will take on your list. Let's see: was gonna do Mezzanine anyway, Low I heard once, once only as a very young lad (Eno's involved in that, isn't he?) and I may look at PIL, though I might go for BAD instead. Or both. Primal Scream? Don't know jack about them, will have to read up, unless you want to give me a clue.

As for Captain Beefheart: yeah I'll give him a go. I only ever heard "Ice cream for crow" (the song) once and thought it was hilarious, but a whole album might be interesting.

DJ: I'll take Peter Tosh, Janet and EWF thanks. I'll add them to the list.

See the thing is I know you all would like to see me explore albums I'd normally not touch, but that's not the point of this journal. If I did that then I'd miss getting to hear all those classic albums I have never heard, and this would become instead "Trollheart walks on the wild side" instead. Hmmm...

No, no! Four journals is more than any man should ever have to update. No more! No. More. Well, maybe just one. NO. Definitely not. Ever. Maybe.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Will be back with my list soon as.
And thanks for the interest already.
TH

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-03-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Urban: never stepped out of my comfort zone? You're talking to the guy who fearlessly went where other reviewers fear to tread, deep into the wilds of Boybandland. I still wake shivering every few nights about that! And have you not seen "The Meat Grinder"? Still, yes, I don't tend to push myself very much but you see I don't want to. I'm happy to listen to music for enjoyment, not to show how diverse a taste I have, like you, Jack or Goofle. Don't need that validation thanks. But I will take on your list. Let's see: was gonna do Mezzanine anyway, Low I heard once, once only as a very young lad (Eno's involved in that, isn't he?) and I may look at PIL, though I might go for BAD instead. Or both. Primal Scream? Don't know jack about them, will have to read up, unless you want to give me a clue.

I can turn on a TV or a radio and hear a boyband, that's not pushing someone out of their comfort zone that's self abuse.

Besides I wouldn't say I was pushing you to validate yourself, I know you don't want to do that which is why all 5 of the albums I carefully chose have their roots in rock music, even Mezzanine which I think of more as a rock album than an electronic one.

Well apart from the Black Flag one, that was just to **** with you

Primal Scream ... For that album think The Rolling Stones meets acid house

Unknown Soldier · 06-03-2013, 11:48 AM

I agree with Urban in the albums that he's suggested to you, I know four of the five and they're albums to push your listening experience without giving you a coronary or making you scratch your head too much, but you might be best to avoid Damaged, you're not ready for that yet. But Low and Close to the Edge might be two great places to jump in and both are two of the best albums ever recorded.

Trollheart · 06-03-2013, 01:32 PM

Okay a few more lines before I get into my list.
Urban, I know you can listen to boybands on the radio, TV, whatever. My point in doing that wasn't necessarily to subject myself to terrible music I would normally not listen to (though that of course became a side effect), it was to try to understand the genre, so that when I next slagged boybands off I would know what I was talking about, and have references, not just the hits everyone knew. But you're right: I wouldn't launch into an investigation of screamo metal or hardcore punk or techno really; I just don't have any interest in those genres.

Oh,and it may seem I've been here for five years but I only really returned actively in 2011, so it's only three. Seems like thirty, seems like thirty...

(Jesus Christ Superstar reference which probably nobody will get)

[List moved to OP 10.03.17]

And the one I'm starting with is this...

I know they have a new one out but everyone references this so much I thought I should give it a listen. Everyone's free to disagree and argue with me of course on certain/all albums, but obviously my impression won't be swayed by someone saying "but that's a classic!" If I don't like an album, after giving it a fair go, it's likely I never will so please don't any well-meaning member try to change my mind. Hopefully though, some of these will strike a chord and I'll wonder why I never listened to them before.

So, off I go to download "Loveless" and see what, if anything, I've been missing all these years. Wish me luck! I'll post my initial review, as it were, in the next day or so, once I've listened through to it once all the way.

Notes

Note 2: Yes yes I know! I have heard tracks off it, but never the whole album all the way through. Don't know why: I have it, just have never got around to listening to it.

Note 3: Listened to this once in my twenties and hated it, but in fairness I expected to and was biased against it, so will give it a more discerning and tolerant listen when I get around to it.

Note 4: I know it's a greatest hits package, but I don't know enough about Marley to know what his classic album is considered to be? If anyone knows, and has suggestions, let me in on it.

Note 5: Owned this years and years ago but hated it. Will try to understand it and give it a fair hearing.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-03-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Pulp --- This is hardcore

Are you sure Different Class wouldn't be a better choice?
That's the one with all the hits on it, This Is Hardcore bombed when it was released. Hell it took me a good while to get into that album & Pulp were one of my favourite bands at the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Dare! --- Human League

Excellent choice sir

The Batlord · 06-03-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sex Pistols: No. I don't care how classic it may be seen as, I bloody HATE the SP and everything they stood for. I have no intention of ever listening to them, and it's not because I'm scared, or they're outside my comfort zone: it's simply that I dislike them so much. No punk fan, I!

What exactly is it that you think the Sex Pistols stand for? I never really thought they stood for much of anything.

Trollheart · 06-03-2013, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

What exactly is it that you think the Sex Pistols stand for? I never really thought they stood for much of anything.

Well, mostly the tearing down of the established rock hierarchy, making music without any talent or class and basically just fucking with people while getting rich in the process. Oh yeah, I don't like punk rock.

Trollheart · 06-11-2013, 06:55 PM

OK I think I can safely say I like ZZ, no big surprise there.
BTW yes US I do know of the Tube and watched it many times. Let's not forget OGWT though! Now THERE was a show...

Anyhoo, on we go and next out of the bag is one I heard once but was too young and stoopid to appreciate, probably, so here's giving it another go with the wisdom (huh?) of another thirty years added on...

My report will be on your desk first thing whenever I feel like it...

Trollheart · 06-22-2013, 01:45 PM

Title: Elephant
Artiste: The White Stripes
Year: 2003
Chronological position: Fourth album
Previous experience of this artiste?: Nothing at all.
Why is this considered a classic? I don't know anything about the White Stripes so that's really not a question I can answer.

My thoughts
One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Good
One track in --- Good
Halfway through --- Great
Finished --- Great

Comments: Everybody raves about the White Stripes, but I've never heard anything by them, so this is all new to me. Pretty impressed so far considering this is just a two-piece. I really like the acoustic You've got her in your pocket and the blues grinder Ball and biscuit and what's this? I think I've heard The air near my fingers before, though I didn't know it was them. Not seeing this elephant on the cover though. Well, sort of, but not really.

Favourite track(s): I just don't know what to do with myself, You've got her in your pocket, There's no home for you here, Ball and biscuit, The air near my fingers.
Least favourite track(s): Little acorns (that story is just so twee) Girl, you have no faith in medicine, It's true that we love one another

Final impression --- Good album, will probably get into it. Not so sure about all the high praise for them though, but as I say, pretty damn good for just two people.

Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?
E really. Maybe F.

Powerstars · 06-24-2013, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Title: Elephant
Artiste: The White Stripes
Year: 2003
Chronological position: Fourth album
Previous experience of this artiste?: Nothing at all.
Why is this considered a classic? I don't know anything about the White Stripes so that's really not a question I can answer.

My thoughts
One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Good
One track in --- Good
Halfway through --- Great
Finished --- Great

Comments: Everybody raves about the White Stripes, but I've never heard anything by them, so this is all new to me. Pretty impressed so far considering this is just a two-piece. I really like the acoustic You've got her in your pocket and the blues grinder Ball and biscuit and what's this? I think I've heard The air near my fingers before, though I didn't know it was them. Not seeing this elephant on the cover though. Well, sort of, but not really.

Favourite track(s): I just don't know what to do with myself, You've got her in your pocket, There's no home for you here, Ball and biscuit, The air near my fingers.
Least favourite track(s): Little acorns (that story is just so twee) Girl, you have no faith in medicine, It's true that we love one another

Final impression --- Good album, will probably get into it. Not so sure about all the high praise for them though, but as I say, pretty damn good for just two people.

Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?
E really. Maybe F.

Would you recommend this album? I'm thinking about it.

06-03-2013, 09:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Thanks for all the replies guys. Few comments then: Close to the edge: why are you guys so surprised I've never heard this? I've made it plain that I have only heard and enjoyed "later" Yes, from 90125 on, and that what I heard of "classic Yes" I thought overlong, boring and pretentious and I lost interest quickly in it. That said, yes I understand it's a classic prog album which is why it's on the list. Sex Pistols: No. I don't care how classic it may be seen as, I bloody HATE the SP and everything they stood for. I have no intention of ever listening to them, and it's not because I'm scared, or they're outside my comfort zone: it's simply that I dislike them so much. No punk fan, I! Urban: never stepped out of my comfort zone? You're talking to the guy who fearlessly went where other reviewers fear to tread, deep into the wilds of Boybandland. I still wake shivering every few nights about that! And have you not seen "The Meat Grinder"? Still, yes, I don't tend to push myself very much but you see I don't want to. I'm happy to listen to music for enjoyment, not to show how diverse a taste I have, like you, Jack or Goofle. Don't need that validation thanks. But I will take on your list. Let's see: was gonna do Mezzanine anyway, Low I heard once, once only as a very young lad (Eno's involved in that, isn't he?) and I may look at PIL, though I might go for BAD instead. Or both. Primal Scream? Don't know jack about them, will have to read up, unless you want to give me a clue. As for Captain Beefheart: yeah I'll give him a go. I only ever heard "Ice cream for crow" (the song) once and thought it was hilarious, but a whole album might be interesting. DJ: I'll take Peter Tosh, Janet and EWF thanks. I'll add them to the list. See the thing is I know you all would like to see me explore albums I'd normally not touch, but that's not the point of this journal. If I did that then I'd miss getting to hear all those classic albums I have never heard, and this would become instead "Trollheart walks on the wild side" instead. Hmmm... No, no! Four journals is more than any man should ever have to update. No more! No. More. Well, maybe just one. NO. Definitely not. Ever. Maybe. Thanks for the suggestions guys. Will be back with my list soon as. And thanks for the interest already. TH __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-03-2013, 01:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Okay a few more lines before I get into my list. Urban, I know you can listen to boybands on the radio, TV, whatever. My point in doing that wasn't necessarily to subject myself to terrible music I would normally not listen to (though that of course became a side effect), it was to try to understand the genre, so that when I next slagged boybands off I would know what I was talking about, and have references, not just the hits everyone knew. But you're right: I wouldn't launch into an investigation of screamo metal or hardcore punk or techno really; I just don't have any interest in those genres. Oh,and it may seem I've been here for five years but I only really returned actively in 2011, so it's only three. Seems like thirty, seems like thirty... (Jesus Christ Superstar reference which probably nobody will get) [List moved to OP 10.03.17] And the one I'm starting with is this... I know they have a new one out but everyone references this so much I thought I should give it a listen. Everyone's free to disagree and argue with me of course on certain/all albums, but obviously my impression won't be swayed by someone saying "but that's a classic!" If I don't like an album, after giving it a fair go, it's likely I never will so please don't any well-meaning member try to change my mind. Hopefully though, some of these will strike a chord and I'll wonder why I never listened to them before. So, off I go to download "Loveless" and see what, if anything, I've been missing all these years. Wish me luck! I'll post my initial review, as it were, in the next day or so, once I've listened through to it once all the way. Notes Note 2: Yes yes I know! I have heard tracks off it, but never the whole album all the way through. Don't know why: I have it, just have never got around to listening to it. Note 3: Listened to this once in my twenties and hated it, but in fairness I expected to and was biased against it, so will give it a more discerning and tolerant listen when I get around to it. Note 4: I know it's a greatest hits package, but I don't know enough about Marley to know what his classic album is considered to be? If anyone knows, and has suggestions, let me in on it. Note 5: Owned this years and years ago but hated it. Will try to understand it and give it a fair hearing. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018 Last edited by Trollheart; 03-10-2017 at 12:01 PM. Reason: Some changes on recs

06-11-2013, 06:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	OK I think I can safely say I like ZZ, no big surprise there. BTW yes US I do know of the Tube and watched it many times. Let's not forget OGWT though! Now THERE was a show... Anyhoo, on we go and next out of the bag is one I heard once but was too young and stoopid to appreciate, probably, so here's giving it another go with the wisdom (huh?) of another thirty years added on... My report will be on your desk first thing whenever I feel like it... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-22-2013, 01:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Title: Elephant Artiste: The White Stripes Year: 2003 Chronological position: Fourth album Previous experience of this artiste?: Nothing at all. Why is this considered a classic? I don't know anything about the White Stripes so that's really not a question I can answer. My thoughts One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Good One track in --- Good Halfway through --- Great Finished --- Great Comments: Everybody raves about the White Stripes, but I've never heard anything by them, so this is all new to me. Pretty impressed so far considering this is just a two-piece. I really like the acoustic You've got her in your pocket and the blues grinder Ball and biscuit and what's this? I think I've heard The air near my fingers before, though I didn't know it was them. Not seeing this elephant on the cover though. Well, sort of, but not really. Favourite track(s): I just don't know what to do with myself, You've got her in your pocket, There's no home for you here, Ball and biscuit, The air near my fingers. Least favourite track(s): Little acorns (that story is just so twee) Girl, you have no faith in medicine, It's true that we love one another Final impression --- Good album, will probably get into it. Not so sure about all the high praise for them though, but as I say, pretty damn good for just two people. Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? E really. Maybe F. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018