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Old 09-25-2013, 01:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I actually agree with you on your review of Nevermind. I find Bleach far more enjoyable.
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Old 09-25-2013, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I actually agree with you on your review of Nevermind. I find Bleach far more enjoyable.

This is my position exactly. Bleach has all the grit and immediacy that was glossed out with the David Geffen polish of Nevermind.


Having said that, everything changed after Nevermind came out. Hair Metal all but died. I'll give credit where credit's due, even though I don't ever intend to listen to Nevermind again.
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is a great thread! I should do something like this.
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Old 12-29-2013, 12:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nirvana was basically just a solid pop band that played loud. At least, on Nevermind. Bleach and In Utero are more edgier. Having said that, Nevermind is, in my opinion, one of the best albums from the nineties, but then again,I really know nothing about music.

Nice journal, though. Even if I don't agree, I enjoyed it a lot.
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Oops. I just noticed I'm three months late...anyway.
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Glad you got around to listening to it, TH. I share the same feelings on the album in that it's great, but definitely not their best. When you say that you don't like 70s Yes, does that mean you've not heard Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans, and Relayer?
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Strange, I totally avoid “Big generator”, “Union”, “90125”, on purpose. 90125 grates my nerves to no end. Close to the Edge is an absolute classic. It's better than most of the 70s albums like The Wall, Quadropenia, maybe ties with Selling England by the Pound, better that Aqua Lung and and ever other hard Rock or Prog albums. Albums of 1972 CttC is better than Honky Château, Can't Buy a Thrill, Chicago V, and Obscured by Clouds. I think albums like Ziggy Stardust, and Exile on Main St. are objective just as great, I don't know how that Rolling Stone rag would rank them. Harvest, Foxtrot, near equal. Wow a year! You probably could have a whole journal dedicated to 1972!
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Glad you got around to listening to it, TH. I share the same feelings on the album in that it's great, but definitely not their best. When you say that you don't like 70s Yes, does that mean you've not heard Fragile, Tales From Topographic Oceans, and Relayer?
TBH I have not heard any Yes 70s albums at all. I've seen them live (on TV) and was bored to tears. Of course that could stem from the fact I knew none of the material. But it just seemed to ramble on forever and I didn't like it. I may try some other albums --- oh wait, I have heard Drama --- no that's 80s isn't it? --- but for me the whole 80s/90s Yes was where I came to love their music, along with the totally underrated ABWH album.

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Strange, I totally avoid “Big generator”, “Union”, “90125”, on purpose. 90125 grates my nerves to no end. Close to the Edge is an absolute classic. It's better than most of the 70s albums like The Wall, Quadropenia, maybe ties with Selling England by the Pound, better that Aqua Lung and and ever other hard Rock or Prog albums. Albums of 1972 CttC is better than Honky Château, Can't Buy a Thrill, Chicago V, and Obscured by Clouds. I think albums like Ziggy Stardust, and Exile on Main St. are objective just as great, I don't know how that Rolling Stone rag would rank them. Harvest, Foxtrot, near equal. Wow a year! You probably could have a whole journal dedicated to 1972!
It's all relative as I say. I'm one of those who much prefers "Trespass", "Wind and wuthering" and even "Nursery cryme" to "Selling England." It's not my least favourite Genesis album but it's definitely not my favourite. That said, it's a great album. I just think I was disappointed, after the fanfare put up about "Close to the edge", that I expected to be totally smacked upside the head and I wasn't. It was a good, even a great Yes album but I'd still rather listen to "Big Generator", "Union" or "90125", maybe even "ABWH". It's just how I feel.
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What makes Close To The Edge special is not only the spontaneous process that went into its recording compared to Yes's other albums, but also the way its constructed and its relative brevity compared to other "prog" records of the era. There's so much going on in just those three songs, however, that people are still talking about it nearly half a century later. There's a reason why its been #1 on ProgArchives pretty much forever: it simply has that level of staying power for the majority of progheads.

That being said, I think you'd like 1971's Fragile or 1980's Drama more than Close To The Edge.
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The fact of the matter is that Close to the Edge needs several listens even by an experienced music listener to fully absorb what's on offer. Personally I think its better than anything comparable put out by the likes of Pink Floyd and Genesis.I'd also recommend reading several reviews about the album to give you a good lowdown on the album.
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