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Old 04-27-2013, 12:08 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I like Starship too.

I like all the Earth Band albums, but I think The Good Earth (Mick Rogers on lead vocals and guitar) and Watch (Chris Thompson on lead vocals, Dave Flett on lead guitar) are my favourites. Glorified Magnified, Messin', Nightingales & Bombers and Roaring Silence are all great. Live material worth tracking down is Pink Pop Festival, Live in Pittsburgh, Stepping Sideways, Live in Stockholm and Here We Go Again. Joybringer, originally a non-album track, is one of my all-time favourite singles.

I've got some of those listed albums on CD, but not all (Freak Out! Forever Changes, Strange Days, After Bathing at Baxter's). What do you think of United States of America?
The track Glorified Magnified is a great song and the other albums I need to re-listen to as it's been so long since I heard them. Or are you going to feature any of their material in your prog guide?

United States of America is a psychedelic electronica album that I don't remember that well anymore, all I know is that it was a great debut album (as most bands seemed to do at that time) and I gave it a high mark on my own album listings that I keep, but for some reason failed to put a comment which always helps me remember it better. Joe Byrd also put out another good album about a year later.

Have seen that you've put Atomic Rooster up, will listen to this stuff and comment.
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I'd never heard of this Atomic Rooster assortment before and initially thought it was a 'best of comp' created by yourself. I've listened to all the songs above and read your notes in great depth and picked up on quite a few tidbits of the band that I didn't know. The best four songs on the comp as far as I'm concerned are "Sleeping for Years" a really heavy and stellar track with some great touches "Death Walks Behind You" of course and "Break the Ice " which is a great track. Finally the "Decline and Fall" which as you say is to showcase the talent of Carl Palmer.

What's most interesting about the band here are the vocalists. It's clear that Nick Graham wasn't a leading vocalist and John Du Cann gave the band a lot more weight in the vocal department BUT the best vocalist on this comp was the one song performed by Peter French a very good vocalist in every aspect. As for the band leader Vincent Crane, he was very much the British answer to Ray Manzarek and was the anchor of the band. I've never listened to the 1980 Atomic Rooster album and you say it's punk inspired.......that's ironic considering that punk had really helped to destroy the glory days of progressive rock in the 1970s.

I don't know if this makes sense, but the band have a real sense of romance about them.........I think this could come from the fact that most of its members had quite tragic endings!

Best three albums I'd say in this order 1) Death Walks Behind You 2) Atomic Rooster 3) Made in England

My favourite song by the band which wasn't on the comp and I'm sure you know it really well.

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Nick Graham was a member of Atomic Rooster mainly for his voice and bass playing, but he was really a multi-instrumentalist. He sings and plays flute on Winter. Parts of Two Quid Deal by Skin Alley sound a lot like Atomic Rooster.

One of my favourite tracks by Atomic Rooster, not on this compilation, is Breakthrough, with Pete French on lead vocals.


Atomic Rooster - Breaktrough (1971) - YouTube

Here is a version with the great Chris Farlowe and the performance is amazing:


Atomic Rooster- Breakthrough - YouTube

This is the Leaf Hound version with Pete French. It is quite heavy:


Leaf Hound - Breakthrough - YouTube
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Those are three good videos above. Strangely enough since re-listening to some of Atomic Rooster's discography I've changed my mind about two of the albums. The debut I don't think is that great anymore but I really think In Hearing of as one of their best albums and that's due to the vocals of Peter French and the material he has on that album is better than that on the Leaf Hound debut.

Btw I've listened to Atomic Rooster 1980 and it sounds like a Stranglers album and it's a good album and so far removed from their main discography.

In fact I'd like to see how you'd rank the Atomic Rooster discoraphy in order of preference. Also you could add in Leaf Hound and Skin Alley as well.
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Atomic Rooster 1980 were marketed along with EMI's other bands, like Scorpions, Wild Horses, Riot and April Wine (who were Canadian), which ran parallel to their NWOBHM acts (Di'Anno-era Iron Maiden, Trespass, White Spirit, etc). The best known tracks were Do You Know Who's Looking For You?, probably because it was a single, and He Did it Again. The two songs were also recorded for BBC sessions, further to those by the earlier John DuCann lineup and the Chris Farlowe version of the band.

I had not thought of The Stranglers, but DuCann definitely affects a punk rock-style for his vocals. It was more creatively successful, in my view, than Yes's 'spirit of the times' album, Yes Tor-mato.

When Pete French joined Cactus, they sounded a bit like Atomic Rooster (as did Skin Alley, when Nick Graham became a member).
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Atomic Rooster 1980 were marketed along with EMI's other bands, like Scorpions, Wild Horses, Riot and April Wine (who were Canadian), which ran parallel to their NWOBHM acts (Di'Anno-era Iron Maiden, Trespass, White Spirit, etc). The best known tracks were Do You Know Who's Looking For You?, probably because it was a single, and He Did it Again. The two songs were also recorded for BBC sessions, further to those by the earlier John DuCann lineup and the Chris Farlowe version of the band.

I had not thought of The Stranglers, but DuCann definitely affects a punk rock-style for his vocals. It was more creatively successful, in my view, than Yes's 'spirit of the times' album, Yes Tor-mato.

When Pete French joined Cactus, they sounded a bit like Atomic Rooster (as did Skin Alley, when Nick Graham became a member).
Been listening to Skin Alley, their debut and To Pagham & Beyond two great albums. Haven't heard Tormato in years but don't ever remember it being that good though, have it on cd. April Wine actually Canada had some good bands around this time. I don't think April Wine were anything special but Nature of the Beast was a great album........ and speaking of 1980 and the Scorpions, I could speak about and listen to that band all day
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Tormato contains some good material, but is over produced and messy. The lengthy closing track, On the Silent Wings of Freedom, is worth a listen in my view.


On the Silent Wings of Freedom by Yes - YouTube

I like that era of the Scorpions too, especially Love Drive.
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Tormato contains some good material, but is over produced and messy. The lengthy closing track, On the Silent Wings of Freedom, is worth a listen in my view.


On the Silent Wings of Freedom by Yes - YouTube

I like that era of the Scorpions too, especially Love Drive.
That is a good song.

Lovedrive and Love at First Sting as far as I'm concerned are their two best albums.
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Hearing Earring: A Biography of Golden Earring




Golden Earring was formed as The Tornados by George Kooymans and Rinus Gerritsen, with guitarist Hans van Herwerden and drummer Fred van der Hilst, in the Hague, the Netherlands, in 1961. When the Tornados discovered their name was already being used by Billy Fury's band, the name The Golden Earrings (in the plural) was adopted. With Frans Krassenburg on vocals, Jaap Eggermont replacing Van der Hilst on drums and Van Herweden jettisoned, their debut single 'Please Go' was also the first hit, reaching number eight in the Netherlands' chart in 1965. An album, Just Earrings, produced by manager Fred Haayen, was released in the same year (Peter de Ronde also plays rhythm guitar). Haayen arranged for the next single, 'That Day', to be recorded at the Pye Records studios in London, a decision which paid off, as it reached number two in the Dutch charts in 1966. 'That Day' was only kept from the number one spot by The Beatles' 'Michelle'. Augmented by session piano player, Cees Schrama, the Golden Earrings recorded the Winter Harvest album, which was released in January 1967.

Original singer Frans Krassenburg was replaced by Barry Hay in 1967 and a year later, the band finally achieved their first number one hit in the Netherlands with the typically Euro-titled, 'Dong Dong Diki Digi Dong'. The same line-up of Hay, Kooymans, Gerritsen and Eggermont recorded the Miracle Mirror, which was released in 1968. On the Double, in 1969, was the last album to feature Eggermont, with Sieb Warner replacing him on drums for Eight Miles High in the same year (released under the name The Golden Earring - singular). Eggermont switched mainly to production work and later became known for the 'Stars on 45' dance medley records of the early 1980s. DJ Neil Kempfer-Stocker began playing the band on US East Coast FM radio and they embarked on two North American tours in 1969, however the Perception Records label in New York failed to capitalise on the Golden Earring album, aka Wall of Dolls, with the Back Home single, in 1970. Golden Earring is the first album credited to 'Golden Earring' and introduces drummer Cesar Zuiderwijk. This 'classic' line-up would remain intact for more than 40 years.

During this period with Barry Hay, Golden Earring evolved into a hard rock band. They enjoyed brief international superstardom in 1973-74 when the shortened version of 'Radar Love', from the Gold-certified album Moontan, became a hit single in both Europe and the USA. For a while, Cesar Zuiderwijk was a minor celebrity for jumping over over his drum-kit at the end of TV performances of 'Radar Love'. Between 1969 and 1984, Golden Earring completed 13 US tours. They performed as the opening act for such luminaries as Santana, King Crimson, The Doobie Brothers, Rush and .38 Special. When 'Radar Love' was a hit, they even had Kiss and Aerosmith as their opening acts. Being signed to Track Records, a UK label, the band hired the quadraphonic sound system used by The Who. Indeed, because of their successful transition from makers of hit singles in the early sixties to full rock band in the seventies, they were compared to The Who.

Eelco Gelling joined Golden Earring, as a second guitarist alongside Kooymans (replacing occasional keyboardist, Robert Jan Stips of Supersister), in 1973, and first appeared on Contraband (1976) which was released in the US as Mad Love. Gelling's haunting slide work is highlighted on a number of tracks, particularly on the single Bombay. The group released its first live album, Golden Earring Live, in 1977, on which Kooymans's and Gellng's dual guitars breath new life into extended versions of the classics, including 'Radar Love'. An edited version of the latter returned Earring to the UK singles charts in 1977. Gelling also played on the group's Grab It For A second album of 1978. During a tour of the United States, he left the band, following differences over improvisation, and after his favourite guitar (a Gibson Les Paul Custom) was stolen from a cab in New York. Returning to the Netherlands, he played in several bands including his own Eelco Gelling Band.

Golden Earring enjoyed a short period of US stardom but were unable to secure further chart success until 1982's Twilight Zone. An accompanying music video, directed by Dick Maas, was one of the first rock videos played on the recently launched MTV and helped the song become a top ten single. 'When the Lady Smiles' was an international hit in 1984, reaching number 3 in Canada and becoming the band's fifth number one hit in their native country, but it received a disappointing reaction in the United States. The reason for this lack of success was attributed to the promotional video being banned from MTV, due to nudity and a scene portraying the rape of a nun. An edited version of the video was shown, but to little avail. While touring the US, the band played at the Great Arena of Six Flags Great Adventure on 11th May 1984, when a fire at the Haunted Castle began on the opposite side of the theme park, killing eight teenagers. Following this tour, Golden Earring returned their focus towards Europe, where they continued to attract large audiences.

In 1991, Golden Earring released the excellent Bloody Buccaneers album and scored another hit in the Netherlands with 'Going to the Run', about a motorcycling friend of the band who who was killed in a road crash. A 'run' is motorcycle jargon for a group of motorcyclists riding to a particular destination. Until recently, Golden Earring were performing over 200 concerts a year, mainly in their home country and occasionally in Belgium, Germany and the UK. These performances have been released on several live albums: the aforementioned Live, recorded at London's Rainbow Theater in 1977; 2nd Live, 1981; Something Heavy Going Down, 1984 (also released on DVD as Live from the Twilight Zone); and Last Blast of the Century, a live recording of their last concert of the 20th century (available on both CD and DVD). Furthermore, there are the band's acoustic live albums including: The Naked Truth (1992), Naked II (1997) and Naked III (2005). Their latest live album, Live from Ahoy 2006, is a DVD with bonus CD.

Golden Earring have not toured outside Europe since 1984. However, the Millbrook USA album was recorded at Frank Carillo's studio in New York. They performed two gigs in the UK, for the first time in 30 years, with one concert on 14th March 2009 at The Shepherd's Bush Empire in London and another on 13th March at Ipswich Regent Theatre. Golden Earring celebrated their 50th anniversary in 2011 and have been performing almost continuously since their formation in 1961. From 1970 onwards, they have had the same core of four musicians, occasionally augmented with keyboardist, Robert Jan Stips of Supersister, and of course for a while, Eelco Gelling, making them one of the longest surviving unchanged lineups. Barry Hay relocated to the Dutch Antilles island of Curaçao in the Caribbean.

On 10th October 2011, at the Historical Museum of The Hague, PostNL presented the first postage stamp with music, issued in honour of Golden Earring's 50th anniversary. When the stamp is held up to a smartphone with a special app, Golden Earring’s 'Radar Love' plays. This stamp is the first in a series of music stamps with real sound, highlighting the most successful pop albums released in the Netherlands. PostNL was the first post office in the world to initiate this concept. Band member and co-founder Rinus Gerritsen accepted the first sheetlet from PostNL. The 50th anniversary was also celebrated at the museum, with a special temporary exhibition on the band, called 'Golden Earring - Back Home', featuring their music, background and influences.

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As you know I'm working my way through the Golden Earring discography and this is the only place I've ever seen them mentioned in this forum and I'll consult this post when I'm slowly working my way through them.
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Ambosia by Ambrosia (20th Century 1975)

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Ambrosia Tracklist
1. Nice, Nice, Very Nice (with lyric by Kurt Vonnegut)
2. Time Waits for No-one
3. Hold On to Yesterday
4. World Leave Me Alone
5. Make Us All Aware
6. Lover Arrive
7. Mama Frog, inc. The Jabberwocky by Lewis Carroll
8. Drink of Water


Ambrosia Lineup
David Pack: Lead vocals, guitars, keyboards on Lover Arrive
Christopher North: Keyboards, vocals
Joe Puerta: Bass guitar, vocals
Burleigh Drummond: Drums, percussion, vocals

Produced by Freddie Piro
Engineered by Alan Parsons


In the seventies, I thought Ambrosia were a mushy AOR group, like REO Speedwagon, Chicago or Journey with Steve Perry, and on this basis I never gave them a second hearing . . . until now. In fairness, I know little about REO Speedwagon, while Chicago and Journey were exciting in the early days. American AOR of this mid-seventies period became early melodic rock, in the form of Boston, Toto and others, while a branch of the genre was blended with progressive elements, giving us Kansas, Styx and Ambrosia. Singer/guitarist David Pack, keyboardist Christopher North, bassist/vocalist Joe Puerta and drummer Burleigh Drummond joined forces to form Ambrosia in LA in 1970, remaining together for the first self-titled album through to the recording of the third album, Life Beyond LA, in 1977, when North departed. While Ambrosia had several hit singles in the nineteen-seventies, much of the material on their first five studio albums is firmly progressive in approach.

Ambrosia (1975) was produced by studio owner Freddie Piro, engineered by Alan Parsons and released in 1975. It contained a hit single Holdin' On To Yesterday, which reached the top twenty in the US, as well as a minor hit in Nice, Nice, Very Nice. Parsons became producer for Ambrosia's second album, while all four band members played on the first Alan Parsons Project album, Tales of Mystery and Imagination (1976), shortly before recording the second Ambrosia album, Somewhere I've Never Travelled (1976). David Pack later appeared on the Alan Parsons album Try Anything Once (1993), co-writing, playing and providing vocals on three songs.

It is unusual to open an album with a lyric from someone outside the band, but Ambrosia has Nice, Nice, Very Nice, written in collaboration with American author, Kurt Vonnegut (adapted from the Bokononist Hymn on the second page of his novel, Cat's Cradle, published in 1963). Like many list poems, it makes an effective lyric, with references to seemingly unconnected characters, such as the lion hunter, a Chinese dentist and the British Queen. The song has a vocal arrangement similar to the British and Californian psychedelia groups of the mid-to-late sixties, with flowing harmonies and a relaxed intonation. Lead singer David Pack uses a calypso delivery, with rolling consonants, in keeping with Vonnegut's novel, which is set on the fictional Caribbean island of San Lorenzo. The track itself starts with hi-hat and open chords, developing into the instrumentation of early Yes. There are Spanish guitar parts, guitar and keyboard solos reminiscent of Howe and Banks, and a Keith Emerson-style brass fanfare on synthesizer. According to Classics Rock, a website devoted to literary references in rock music, Vonnegut was pleased with the results and it certainly makes a sprightly opener.

Time Waits for No-one also has a percussive intro, with more Spanish guitar - a trademark of the group. Punchy acoustic guitar creates a Groundhogs-type riff, while the band's own lyrics are sung in a less mannered but equally strong technique. David Pack is clearly a capable lead singer. Variety comes in the form of complex harmonies, touches of jazz guitar with piano, hand claps (Alan Parsons?) and whooping. Added to these is a guitar solo which sounds like Alan Parsons Project alumnus, Ian Bairnson. Hold On to Yesterday continues the Steely Dan jazz feel, before a lilting vocal over piano and organ, along with excellent harmonies, creates an atmosphere reminiscent of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (that was also engineered by Alan Parsons). An instrumental passage combines guitar with strings, while there is another distinctive Ian Bairnson-sounding guitar solo. Overall, Hold On to Yesterday is a brilliantly constructed piece and is one of the best tracks on the album. It gives the impression that, although credited as engineer, Alan Parsons had a hand in the production. Hold On to Yesterday's influence extends to Celtic-inspired British rock bands such as Love & Money and Mostly Autumn.

As the title suggests, World Leave Me Alone is a blues track with loud acoustic guitar and plenty of reverb. Pack provides a superb guitar solo and an unexpected phased vocal. The intro to Make Us All Aware makes good use of stereo and the production with grand piano and bass drum sounds like Rupert Holmes's for John Miles's Zaragon. Beach Boys harmonies give way to harpsichord psychedelia before segueing into clean synthesizers and piano. Ambrosia's token slow ballad is the short Lover Arrive, which sounds a bit like Simon and Garfunkel. In Mama Frog, the band has attempted to write a nonsense verse, along the lines of Lewis Carroll's The Jabberwocky, hence its inclusion as a reading, along with curious synthesizer and percussion effects, before the end of the track. Strangely, Mama Frog is a near perfect impersonation of Captain Beyond, in jazz mode, and would have been better if the song and poem were separate. Indeed, The Jabberwocky (’Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre And gimble in the wabe) serves little purpose other than to give attention to a great writer, carry the AP mark and fill a gap.

If Hold On to Yesterday is a great track, Drink of Water is a minor masterpiece on which to close the album. It is a symphonic piece with plaintive voice and organ, big Fifth Dimension chorus, soaring guitar solo and melodic instrumental passage. The ending is pleasingly unpredictable and the group finish on a high point with their best track.
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