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Old 09-07-2014, 03:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Rods: They kind of sound like a heavier version of UFO. Most of the time when I listen to a metal band with that much of an AOR influence that I have to settle for almost-but-not-quite-heaviness. This band has a nice amount of rawness to them though.
Despite being a tough sounding band, they had that melodic edge that took them away from being a Motorhead to a much more as you say AOR influenced band at times.

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Anvil: No matter how many times I listen to Anvil I just can't get past their singer. He's just awful. I feel the same way about Cirith Ungol. Want to like them. Can't.
I wouldn't compare the two vocalists of those bands, as Steve Kudrow has more to offer and I'm guessing that Dave Mustaine took a lot from him. Metal on Metal of course represents as far as I'm concerned, everything great about being a mean sounding metal album before thrash came along.
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02. Iron Maiden The Number of the Beast 1982 (EMI)
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For most people The Number of the Beast is often their first port of call or exposure when getting into metal and for that reason alone it could easily be considered as being the most essential heavy metal album ever relased. In fact I actually remember when the album first came out, where the denizens of metal across the UK seemed to have finally found their true focal point as far as everything metal was concerned. As on The Number of the Beast, Iron Maiden would put out an album that was just as grand and famous as anything being put out by any other top selling artist of the day and it would also be the album that launched the band into the stratosphere! The Number of the Beast is also often seen as the Iron Maiden’s most famous album (if not their best) and it most notably sees Bruce Dickinson (ex-Samson) taking over the vocal helm with the likes of Dio and Rob Halford on how metal should be sung. Bruce Dickinson of course had come to the band to give Iron Maiden as far as band leader Steve Harris was concerned, a much wider reaching panoramic appeal in true stadium metal band tradition and in Bruce Dickinson they had an operatic vocalist whose vocal chords far exceeded the limited punk style of Paul Di’Anno. The Number of the Beast would firmly set the stall out on what heavy metal’s middle ground should be for the rest of the decade, as this would be a decade which would see the flamboyant and commercially driven glam metal bands on one side, and the aggressive extreme metal acts on the other. Through all this anarchy and upheaval to affect the genre (which would soon lead to genre splicing) the genre needed centric sounding metal bands like Iron Maiden to steer the ship through stormy seas and provide heavy metal with a solid middle ground. Iron Maiden would largely keep the whole genre on an even keel which was vital for the genre’s long term commercial aspirations, as they were guaranteed to steer the ship safely to port everytime and provide metal with its solid backbone and reference point throughout the rest of the decade and beyond. Also Iron Maiden under the tutelage of both Bruce Dickinson and Steve Harris, would lay down a sound that sounded raw but polished, aggressive yet melodic, fantastic yet contemporary and all through this was a clarity of sound that would bring all the strengths of the band to the fore. The band’s trademark album covers are continued here to amazing effect by artist Derek Rigg and would continue to set the benchmark for what metal album covers should be about. As always the album name and cover would spark controversy with the conservative censors in the USA, who saw the whole thing as kind of promoting Satanism, something that was always being chucked at metal bands around this time. While here in the UK the album name and cover were just treated as another tongue-in-cheek approach by a metal band. Unsurprsingly the album makes just about every ‘must listen to metal album list’ out there and the amount of bands that have covered the songs on this album are just too numerous to mention and needless to say the album was a massive seller.

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Iron Maiden fronted by Paul Di’Anno may have sounded more exciting and spontaneous, but with Bruce Dickinson at the helm the band would reach new unparalleled heights of excellence. This was thanks to their aggressive tempos, the super fast technical twin guitar team of Dave Murray and Adrian Smith, which was all underpinned by both Steve Harris and Cliver Burr and then accompanied by the power chords of Bruce Dickinson all to a superior level. In fact most of the songs on the album whether they are truly great or not featured all the spiralling dynamics of the band in full cry. Gone on the album are the street level topics of the previous two albums, to be replaced by the more grandiose subjects of fantasy, history and horror which would all be subject staples of the genre very soon anyway. Now despite its very high and lofty postion both here and in most other places on the internet, I’ve always seen The Number of the Beast as being the perfect example of ‘a flawed masterpiece’. In that the album is not as masterful as it should’ve been for an album of such standing, simply because there are a number of musical and timing variables to take into consideration when listening to it. Firstly some of the tracks were actually written with Paul Di’Anno in mind like the well known “22 Acacia Avenue” a follow-up to “Charlotte the Harlot”, it’s a good song but does feel like an ambitious Paul Di’Anno track at heart and then “Gangland” which is most definitely a Paul Di’Anno track. The main issue though is probably in the sequencing of the tracks, as I don’t think a song like “Invaders” was a good choice to start off the album and the classic “Children of the Damned” with its dynamic proportions doesn’t sit well as the album’s second track. In fact I could sift through the song sequencing on the album and raise a number of issues, because overall the album seems to have a random feel concerning its track order which is noticed by some and ignored by others. Secondly one or two tracks are probably not as great as they’re made out to be like “The Prisoner” which is based around the UK TV series, but it is saved by its middle section which serves up some masterful guitar interplay. “Invaders” is nothing special and “Gangland” belongs on the previous two albums, and the spare track “Total Eclipse” which would appear on the 1998 remaster of the album kicks the butt of both of those two songs imo. But these negatives are easily matched by everything that is great on the album and these come in the album’s four showcase tracks which are worth the price of admission alone and are capable of sweeping most of the opposition under the carpet. There is the epic “Children of the Damned” a slower Black Sabbath Dio era inspired classic. The title track “The Number of the Beast” dominated by Steve Harris’ rumbling bass and the album’s big single “Run to the Hills” which accounts the conquest of Native Americans. “Hallowed Be Thy Name” is the album’s extended classic and one of the best tracks ever put out by a metal band. The key ingredient of Iron Maiden’s popularity would revolve around the fact that serious metalheads could easily engage with the sound and image of the band, without ever compromising their true metal credentials, as the band would always deliver what they saw as serious metal, yet this serious metal was still melodic enough to equally engage casual listeners into what they saw as being true heavy metal as well. Overall this was a remarkable achievement by the band, considering that the 1980s would be flooded with bands from all sides of the heavy metal spectrum and in Iron Maiden even more so than say Judas Priest, heavy metal had an irremovable and solid heart that was firmly anchored in stone. This aspect alone, would provide the vital ingredient for the huge longevity of the band over the coming decades.

Bruce Dickinson- Vocals
Dave Murray- Guitar
Adrian Smith- Guitar
Steve Harris- Bass
Clive Burr- Drums

Production- Martin Birch

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Since your mention of the Anvil film, US, I've been trawling the forums for a review I thought I had written, without success. I first heard about it on a Classic Rock magazine podcast and, soon after, it was shown on TV. The film was by turns funny and moving, giving a fascinating insight into a once popular band, who found themselves out of fashion. It was also a success and almost brought the band back into the mainstream.

The reality for a number of bands is that fame comes and goes. Toto went from cult band to huge stars to obscurity and back to a cult band.

I am not an Anvil fan, nor a thrash fan, but I had sympathy for Kudrow and Reiner. Recently, I described what I thought was a thrash band, to be told they are groove metal, which shows (a) how much I know about such things and (b) how much I care for sub-genres.

Anyway, it's good to see Anvil get a mention here, as well as The Rods. Prior to Ronnie James Dio's illness, there were stories of him working with Feistein again, but it never saw fruition due to his rapid deterioration. After years of sophistication, it would have been interesting to hear Dio return to the raw sound of Elf.
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Alright, US. Hurry up and put Screaming for Vengeance at #1 so we can get started with '83.
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1982 was the first ever year Kerrang did a end of year top 10.
I thought it might be interesting to post it and compare it to yours.

1.Scorpions - Blackout
2.Van Halen - Diver Down
3.Robert Plant - Pictures At Eleven
4.Rush - Signals
5.Kiss - Creatures Of The Night
6.Tom Petty - Long After Dark
7.Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
8.Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
9.Rainbow - Straight Between The Eyes
10.Rose Tattoo - Scarred For Life
10.Gillan - Magic

I think I prefer yours, and what the hell is Tom Petty doing on there, And Diver Down is the worst VH album of the Roth era, 2nd best of the year?.
Mind you I think 1982 was the year Kerrang called U2 'the new Zeppelin'.

Maybe posting this chart wasn't a good idea after all
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Gah. And here I was hoping to go one year without seeing the Scorpions at #1.
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Your review of Anvil is timely, as I have also reviewed it for Metal Month II and agree with most of what you say, though of course I don't quite have your historical perspective on it. It was one of the first metal albums I got so it means a lot to me. I think I had an Anvil patch on the back of my denim jacket when I was 17. No doubt it said METAL ON METAL!!

Oh, one error: you called them a North American band, when they're obviously from Canada...

Crushed to see NOTB only at number two. What is it with you and Priest, assuming they're slated for the number one spot? Or are you going to surprise us?

Anyway, great writeups as always. How you do this constantly amazes, inspires and occasionally makes me jealous!
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Since your mention of the Anvil film, US, I've been trawling the forums for a review I thought I had written, without success. I first heard about it on a Classic Rock magazine podcast and, soon after, it was shown on TV. The film was by turns funny and moving, giving a fascinating insight into a once popular band, who found themselves out of fashion. It was also a success and almost brought the band back into the mainstream.
Even though I mentioned the film I've never seen it and it's on a list of about a zillion things that I still need to hear or see.

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The reality for a number of bands is that fame comes and goes. Toto went from cult band to huge stars to obscurity and back to a cult band.
Toto are one of my all time favourite bands BUT I've never for one moment ever thought of them as a cult band.

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I am not an Anvil fan, nor a thrash fan, but I had sympathy for Kudrow and Reiner. Recently, I described what I thought was a thrash band, to be told they are groove metal, which shows (a) how much I know about such things and (b) how much I care for sub-genres.
In a lot of extreme metal genres the line is kind of thin, but groove metal does have a distinctive sound compared to thrash. Just listen to Pantera and you'll get the gist. I must be the only Pantera fan on the forum as most seem to hate them

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Anyway, it's good to see Anvil get a mention here, as well as The Rods. Prior to Ronnie James Dio's illness, there were stories of him working with Feistein again, but it never saw fruition due to his rapid deterioration. After years of sophistication, it would have been interesting to hear Dio return to the raw sound of Elf.
I didn't know that but I can listen to Dio on anything, even when it's not good.

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Alright, US. Hurry up and put Screaming for Vengeance at #1 so we can get started with '83.
I guess it was fairly obvious. Anyway bozo I've noticed you haven't updated the index.

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1982 was the first ever year Kerrang did a end of year top 10.
I thought it might be interesting to post it and compare it to yours.

1.Scorpions - Blackout
2.Van Halen - Diver Down
3.Robert Plant - Pictures At Eleven
4.Rush - Signals
5.Kiss - Creatures Of The Night
6.Tom Petty - Long After Dark
7.Iron Maiden - The Number Of The Beast
8.Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
9.Rainbow - Straight Between The Eyes
10.Rose Tattoo - Scarred For Life
10.Gillan - Magic

I think I prefer yours, and what the hell is Tom Petty doing on there, And Diver Down is the worst VH album of the Roth era, 2nd best of the year?.
Mind you I think 1982 was the year Kerrang called U2 'the new Zeppelin'.

Maybe posting this chart wasn't a good idea after all
Tom Petty on there is a joke, Rush were usually added to these lists to make them look respectable. The Van Halen album is their worst, even though "Intruder" is a kick ass track. Robert Plant's solo material is pretty boring and the Rainbow and Gillan albums are quite average. Even the Scorpions album doesn't deserve the no.1 slot and I'm a big fan of theirs. Rose Tattoo could never really get into them. Yer I think my list is better too.

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Your review of Anvil is timely, as I have also reviewed it for Metal Month II and agree with most of what you say, though of course I don't quite have your historical perspective on it. It was one of the first metal albums I got so it means a lot to me. I think I had an Anvil patch on the back of my denim jacket when I was 17. No doubt it said METAL ON METAL!!
You wearing a denim jacket like a metalhead wow!

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Unless there has been some recent land separation, Canada is very much part of North America.

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Remember I only write one journal and not 10, so it's not so hard to maintain a level.
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Oh I had the lot when I was younger! MUCH younger! Studded armband, leather jacket, long hair, the works!
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Unless there has been some recent land separation, Canada is very much part of North America.
I'm genuinely confused about this. Yes it's all the one landmass but it's a different country, like Scottish people not wanting to be called English or even British sometimes. Don't Canadians hate it when you call them American? Is Bryan Adams an American or a Canadian twat? Please explain to this ignorant Irishman...

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I only write five, don't exaggerate. Chucked the jazz one, though I am starting a new one after Metal Month II, so we'll be back to six. Still, the work you do on yours often makes me feel I spread myself too thinly. But I don't think it shows in any of my journals, although some don't get updated as often as they really should.
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I'm genuinely confused about this. Yes it's all the one landmass but it's a different country, like Scottish people not wanting to be called English or even British sometimes. Don't Canadians hate it when you call them American? Is Bryan Adams an American or a Canadian twat? Please explain to this ignorant Irishman...
North America is the continent name, as South America is for the southern section of the continent. It's more to do with the name America or Americas the name given by the European settlers long before the USA was formed, so there is no reason for Canadians to be cheesed off about this.

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I only write five, don't exaggerate. Chucked the jazz one, though I am starting a new one after Metal Month II, so we'll be back to six. Still, the work you do on yours often makes me feel I spread myself too thinly. But I don't think it shows in any of my journals, although some don't get updated as often as they really should.
So what new journal are you starting?

Btw listen to this as it's so eerie. Your last post was number 666 and the last album I reviewed was Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast
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