Screaming at the Moon

TheBig3 · 01-17-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Hahaha, I'd rather not psychoanalyze you outloud. =P

well PM me then, friend-o.

TheBig3 · 01-18-2010, 10:39 PM

Why must hipsters kill everything?

I read someone that questioned what they'd be remembered for. That you couldn't be remembered for remembering (a retro dig). But remembering is unfortunately what they do.

I'm pissed tonight about this new blackberry commercial...

There are multiple things going horribly wrong here and I want to just throw **** against the wall here, but lets start with the choice.

The Beatles "All you need is love" is somewhat offensive. I'm not actually offended but the concept of the song is slightly different than the idea of "all you need is a Blackberry." At this point in their lives I'm sure Ringo and Paul are letting it slide, but I'd like a little of the fury we saw when Michael Jackson allowed Nike to use Revolution to hock (sp?) shoes.

But even if we forgive the terrible connection drawn between love and constant communication, I can't forgive, and this is the point on which most of my ire is focused, is the selection of the Beatles and having them being sung like the love child of James Mercer and Beck Hansen. Its weak, its intentionally sloppy, its skeletal and frail, woefully fragile, and sung as if it was his very bared and open soul.

HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE HIM...AND BUY A BLACKBERRY?!?!?!?!?!?!

This commercial was aimed like a big fat nuke at hipster urbanite trash so concerned with being counter-culture that they don't see corporate america whispering in their ears like some Kanye-shaded, skinny-jeaned, Devil-wears-Diesel Jeans Lucifer telling them that iPod, Blackberry, and Timbuktwo messanger bags know them, understand them, and are the only salvation. I can see Ana Marie Cox declaring it a godsend.

What you ought to be really concerned with here is how calculated corporate america is, and how on the money they were with this one. If you do any amount of research, and by that I mean the first page of a google search you'll find this...

Esteban

The cover is sung by Grayson Mathews its an ad song company based out of canada.
Oct 31 2009, 02:52pm

(from: Link)

Well thanks Esteban. If what our Ecuadorian* friend is telling us is correct then that means this song wasn't even selected by corporate america, it was designed by them.

And lets be direct about here, this isn't a psychedelic movement driving toward something so culturally unacceptable it can't be co-opted. This isn't punk which was co-opted so well that its been eating its own children for the last 40 years with the death-rattle screams of "that isn't real punk." These are nerds, based in intelligence, culturally disciplined to be counter-culture and for so long reigned as impregnable to the gray suits in the boardroom.

Whats most scary is that the gray suits don't give up, and what this tells me is that Corporate had to create, avatar-like, some form of lab-hipster born to seduce the city-transit dwelling race far beyond their Claw-Machine reach to their wallets. Let this entry not be grouped with my traditionally pissy rants, full of harrumph and temper tantrum.

No my friends, let this be grouped with the fire in the pulpit warning, a Jonathan Edwards "Sinners" speech, a prophecy of the terrible events to come. There are sleeper cells amongst us. Grip your duct-taped wallets tightly, keep your "fixie" locked up inside, and remember to wear the safe color if you leave the house...gray.

*I have no idea where Esteban is from.

TheBig3 · 03-09-2010, 10:51 AM

I'd write more, but you don't write anything. So heres the whiplash-listing of the best things to happen to your ears last decade:

1. Music to make love to your old lady by - Lovage

Its not the concept or the experimentation - its the music. Haunting, well researched characters, not serious enough for the goth kids, too serious for the frat kids. If you don't like it go **** yourself.

2. Elephant - The White Stripes

The sound of unrepentant thunder. If you don't like it, it will **** you.

3. Return to Cookie Mountain - TV on the Radio

This is what it sounds like when cyborgs have nightmares. Hipster nation channels its inner Hitch**** and scares the bejesus out of mainstream radio.

4. Is Is - Yeah Yeah Yeah's

Songs that may as well be sea chantys. Stay on the shore, Y x3 releases the Kraken on a power packed EP.

TheBig3 · 03-09-2010, 10:53 AM

5. The Blueprint - Jay-Z

Even your mother gets dissed on this one. If you don't like it, Jay-Z tells you to go **** yourself on track 2.

6. Songs for the Deaf - Queens of the Stone Age

Apt title. "A million dollars" jumps from the bushes and punches you in the ear. The other 12 tracks jump in like Southie kids on a saturday night.

7. Stankonia - Outkast Truth be told, even my Senior English teacher chimed in on the chorus to "Miss Jackson" when the late kid would walk in singing it. This albums so good Miss Jacksons daughter got ****ed.

8. Comfort Eagle - Cake The greatest band that ever played eletro-funkabilly Mariacountry.

TheBig3 · 03-09-2010, 10:54 AM

9. Cold Roses - Ryan Adams

He's an eccentric douche that gives you the best deal in concert, but he makes on hell of a double-disc.

10. Pretty Little Head - Nelly McKay

One of the more bizzare albums listed, but its earned its spot for ****s sake.

TheBig3 · 03-11-2010, 10:24 PM

The day will come where, for the betterment of everything we hold sacred, I'll have to stand against and slaughter armies of the ignorant. When that day comes I will skull**** my enemies to this song...

Arya Stark · 03-12-2010, 11:44 AM

That version and everything? xDD

loveissucide · 03-12-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

The day will come where, for the betterment of everything we hold sacred, I'll have to stand against and slaughter armies of the ignorant. When that day comes I will skull**** my enemies to this song...

TheBig3 · 03-12-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

That version and everything? xDD

yes. after the insults levied, its the only suitable indignity I'd be willing to suffer unto the lot of you ****s.

TheBig3 · 03-30-2010, 09:52 PM

I was reading an interview some years back with Maynard on the then forthcoming Emotive, A Perfect Circles cover album, released on the U.S. Election day 2004. They were talking about some of the song selections and why he'd chosen to rearrange the songs they way he did, which was one of the strong features to the project (rearrangements).

They'd asked, because its all but obligatory, what songs they'd not chosen and one of the songs he really focused on was Elton John's Border Song. To finish my point with the interview, he said the arrangement was so ingrained with the song he found it pretty difficult to "make the song his own" (whatever that means). But beyond that, it made me go dig up the song and since that first listen its never been a song I've been too far away from.

If you've not heard it, its nothing ostensibly amazing. It sounds like it was written in the 1970's (it was) and its political position isn't something you haven't read on the bumper of the car in front of you, but I think what makes it so great to me, and this isn't far removed from Maynard's point, is that John knows how to make an arrangement fit with a song. More directly, the song tends to be a perfect unit where notes are neither wasted nor movements lacking full musical expression.

Now if you're only mildly familiar with Elton's work, you're probably aware of what i'm getting at here, but whats most phenomenal with this song is that it isn't one of the more enduring works he's produced, and yet 40 years after it was introduced to the major markets its enduring. Its ware shows its years, but its beauty still exists, like a classical piece that remains timeless because it was perfect for its period.

I'm always trying to understand music in a way that allows me to know it from all angles. There was a time, for example, that I saw songs as some sort of video game code you didn't so much as learn as you did memorize. While I've come along was from that point, songs like Border Song still hold tremendous power for me, because their simplicity will always remind me of what skeleton works best for these musical frameworks; saying it directly, and playing only what supports that simplicity, and just seeing where you come out on the other end.

Chris Cornell was asked once what song he wished he'd written, and he said at the time (around the inception of Audioslave) that it was Karma Police, because it was so simple we all should have thought of it. (that's a heavy paraphrase). With simple songs, they don't sound amazing, they just sound like they've always been. As if it was pulled from the collective conscious and reintroduced to a forgetful public.

01-18-2010, 10:39 PM	#32 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Why must hipsters kill everything? I read someone that questioned what they'd be remembered for. That you couldn't be remembered for remembering (a retro dig). But remembering is unfortunately what they do. I'm pissed tonight about this new blackberry commercial... There are multiple things going horribly wrong here and I want to just throw ** against the wall here, but lets start with the choice. The Beatles "All you need is love" is somewhat offensive. I'm not actually offended but the concept of the song is slightly different than the idea of "all you need is a Blackberry." At this point in their lives I'm sure Ringo and Paul are letting it slide, but I'd like a little of the fury we saw when Michael Jackson allowed Nike to use Revolution to hock (sp?) shoes. But even if we forgive the terrible connection drawn between love and constant communication, I can't forgive, and this is the point on which most of my ire is focused, is the selection of the Beatles and having them being sung like the love child of James Mercer and Beck Hansen. Its weak, its intentionally sloppy, its skeletal and frail, woefully fragile, and sung as if it was his very bared and open soul. HOW COULD YOU NOT LOVE HIM...AND BUY A BLACKBERRY?!?!?!?!?!?! This commercial was aimed like a big fat nuke at hipster urbanite trash so concerned with being counter-culture that they don't see corporate america whispering in their ears like some Kanye-shaded, skinny-jeaned, Devil-wears-Diesel Jeans Lucifer telling them that iPod, Blackberry, and Timbuktwo messanger bags know them, understand them, and are the only salvation. I can see Ana Marie Cox declaring it a godsend. What you ought to be really concerned with here is how calculated corporate america is, and how on the money they were with this one. If you do any amount of research, and by that I mean the first page of a google search you'll find this... Esteban** The cover is sung by Grayson Mathews its an ad song company based out of canada. Oct 31 2009, 02:52pm (from: Link) Well thanks Esteban. If what our Ecuadorian* friend is telling us is correct then that means this song wasn't even selected by corporate america, it was designed by them. And lets be direct about here, this isn't a psychedelic movement driving toward something so culturally unacceptable it can't be co-opted. This isn't punk which was co-opted so well that its been eating its own children for the last 40 years with the death-rattle screams of "that isn't real punk." These are nerds, based in intelligence, culturally disciplined to be counter-culture and for so long reigned as impregnable to the gray suits in the boardroom. Whats most scary is that the gray suits don't give up, and what this tells me is that Corporate had to create, avatar-like, some form of lab-hipster born to seduce the city-transit dwelling race far beyond their Claw-Machine reach to their wallets. Let this entry not be grouped with my traditionally pissy rants, full of harrumph and temper tantrum. No my friends, let this be grouped with the fire in the pulpit warning, a Jonathan Edwards "Sinners" speech, a prophecy of the terrible events to come. There are sleeper cells amongst us. Grip your duct-taped wallets tightly, keep your "fixie" locked up inside, and remember to wear the safe color if you leave the house...gray. *I have no idea where Esteban is from. __________________ I've moved to a new address

03-09-2010, 10:51 AM	#33 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I'd write more, but you don't write anything. So heres the whiplash-listing of the best things to happen to your ears last decade: 1. Music to make love to your old lady by - Lovage Its not the concept or the experimentation - its the music. Haunting, well researched characters, not serious enough for the goth kids, too serious for the frat kids. If you don't like it go **** yourself. 2. Elephant - The White Stripes The sound of unrepentant thunder. If you don't like it, it will **** you. 3. Return to Cookie Mountain - TV on the Radio This is what it sounds like when cyborgs have nightmares. Hipster nation channels its inner Hitch**** and scares the bejesus out of mainstream radio. 4. Is Is - Yeah Yeah Yeah's Songs that may as well be sea chantys. Stay on the shore, Y x3 releases the Kraken on a power packed EP. __________________ I've moved to a new address

03-09-2010, 10:53 AM	#34 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	5. The Blueprint - Jay-Z Even your mother gets dissed on this one. If you don't like it, Jay-Z tells you to go **** yourself on track 2. 6. Songs for the Deaf - Queens of the Stone Age Apt title. "A million dollars" jumps from the bushes and punches you in the ear. The other 12 tracks jump in like Southie kids on a saturday night. 7. Stankonia - Outkast Truth be told, even my Senior English teacher chimed in on the chorus to "Miss Jackson" when the late kid would walk in singing it. This albums so good Miss Jacksons daughter got ***ed. 8. Comfort Eagle* - Cake The greatest band that ever played eletro-funkabilly Mariacountry. __________________ I've moved to a new address

03-09-2010, 10:54 AM	#35 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	9. Cold Roses - Ryan Adams He's an eccentric douche that gives you the best deal in concert, but he makes on hell of a double-disc. 10. Pretty Little Head - Nelly McKay One of the more bizzare albums listed, but its earned its spot for ****s sake. __________________ I've moved to a new address

03-11-2010, 10:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	The day will come where, for the betterment of everything we hold sacred, I'll have to stand against and slaughter armies of the ignorant. When that day comes I will skull**** my enemies to this song... __________________ I've moved to a new address

03-30-2010, 09:52 PM	#40 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I was reading an interview some years back with Maynard on the then forthcoming Emotive, A Perfect Circles cover album, released on the U.S. Election day 2004. They were talking about some of the song selections and why he'd chosen to rearrange the songs they way he did, which was one of the strong features to the project (rearrangements). They'd asked, because its all but obligatory, what songs they'd not chosen and one of the songs he really focused on was Elton John's Border Song. To finish my point with the interview, he said the arrangement was so ingrained with the song he found it pretty difficult to "make the song his own" (whatever that means). But beyond that, it made me go dig up the song and since that first listen its never been a song I've been too far away from. If you've not heard it, its nothing ostensibly amazing. It sounds like it was written in the 1970's (it was) and its political position isn't something you haven't read on the bumper of the car in front of you, but I think what makes it so great to me, and this isn't far removed from Maynard's point, is that John knows how to make an arrangement fit with a song. More directly, the song tends to be a perfect unit where notes are neither wasted nor movements lacking full musical expression. Now if you're only mildly familiar with Elton's work, you're probably aware of what i'm getting at here, but whats most phenomenal with this song is that it isn't one of the more enduring works he's produced, and yet 40 years after it was introduced to the major markets its enduring. Its ware shows its years, but its beauty still exists, like a classical piece that remains timeless because it was perfect for its period. I'm always trying to understand music in a way that allows me to know it from all angles. There was a time, for example, that I saw songs as some sort of video game code you didn't so much as learn as you did memorize. While I've come along was from that point, songs like Border Song still hold tremendous power for me, because their simplicity will always remind me of what skeleton works best for these musical frameworks; saying it directly, and playing only what supports that simplicity, and just seeing where you come out on the other end. Chris Cornell was asked once what song he wished he'd written, and he said at the time (around the inception of Audioslave) that it was Karma Police, because it was so simple we all should have thought of it. (that's a heavy paraphrase). With simple songs, they don't sound amazing, they just sound like they've always been. As if it was pulled from the collective conscious and reintroduced to a forgetful public. __________________ I've moved to a new address