Best comedy specials on Netflix

Oriphiel · 08-17-2018, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Where has the backbone of today's American gone? Why do so many of them refuse to stand up for what is right and slap down what is wrong? Isn't that idea of freedom part of what America was founded upon?

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Yes, let us go back to the glorious 50s when secretaries stood up for themselves when they were groped in the workplace.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 08-17-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

By being under implied threat of violence that is very common in that type of situation. The world is not as black and white as you're trying to make it out to be.

You are directly putting the fault on the women as a way to take the heat off of Louis. That's victim blaming. Just embrace it, dude.

I said Louis was a scum bag for doing it all along bro. You mean there can only be one idiot per interaction? I'm saying that apparently society has failed these women if they are UNWILLING to tell someone no.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

You wanna know why this **** pisses me off? Because I've personally experienced it. If you never have, you can't possibly imagine the mental trauma that comes before, during, and after. I went to therapy for years. Now stop with this holier than thou bs. I'm asking nicely.

It sucks that you went through trauma. Nothing I say here will change that. I'm speaking from my own reference point. If you feel that I am "victim shaming/blaming" and you are a victim in a similar case, then I can see how you could be taking it as a direct insult, as me saying that what you experienced was your fault. I am not saying that Ki. If I hurt your feelings, I am sorry.

But I am not sorry for my opinions, of which I have given my reasonings to substantiate. I'm done with this.

Key · 08-17-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

It sucks that you went through trauma. Nothing I say here will change that. I'm speaking from my own reference point. If you feel that I am "victim shaming/blaming" and you are a victim in a similar case, then I can see how you could be taking it as a direct insult, as me saying that what you experienced was your fault. I am not saying that Ki. If I hurt your feelings, I am sorry.

But I am not sorry for my opinions, of which I have given my reasonings to substantiate. I'm done with this.

It's cool. You didn't know. I dont blame you for that. I'm just throwing it out there to better understand my side. No worries man.

**Frownland** · 08-17-2018, 10:46 AM

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I said Louis was a scum bag for doing it all along bro. You mean there can only be one idiot per interaction? I'm saying that apparently society has failed these women if they are UNWILLING to tell someone no.

Pretend that you're not a karate master and that you're a skinny 20 year old woman for a minute. Is complying with someone's requests to avoid risking violence from someone who could easily overpower you grounds for being an idiot? From the woman's perspective, Louis was already willing to cross the social norm into something creepy and scummy without a second thought, it's not so unrealistic to think that he might slip into violence just as easily.

YorkeDaddy · 08-17-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Pretend that you're not a karate master and that you're a skinny 20 year old woman for a minute. Is complying with someone's requests to avoid risking violence from someone who could easily overpower you grounds for being an idiot? From the woman's perspective, Louis was already willing to cross the social norm into something creepy and scummy without a second thought, it's not so unrealistic to think that he might slip into violence just as easily.

He couldn’t come up with a response to my post from last page:

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How could they know there was no threat of harm? Someone capable of physically overpowering them had them alone in a room making unwanted sexual advances. I can’t think of many situations that would be more terrifying. They were probably paralyzed in fear and didn’t know what else to do besides let him do it. But nah big macho Merit thinks the women should have Rambo nut-kicked him and parachuted away while the building exploded behind them. That’s not how the world or people ****ing work

So he clearly won’t be able to come up with a response to you either

Key · 08-17-2018, 10:52 AM

I think it may be for the best to put this to rest. I take partial responsibility for derailing the thread.

**Frownland** · 08-17-2018, 10:55 AM

It happens.

Anyways, has anyone seen the Tom Segura special they have on Netflix? He's pretty funny in interviews but I haven't seen any of his standup.

YorkeDaddy · 08-17-2018, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

I think it may be for the best to put this to rest. I take partial responsibility for derailing the thread.

No, this is the kind of **** that needs to be called out. Toxic macho ****s like Merit are precisely the reason that nasty weirdos like Weinstein and Spacey etc etc etc have been able to get away with this **** for so long. Merit and so many others are literally incapable of thinking about things in any way outside of their safe white male bubble and its unfathomable to them that a young, defenseless woman would be too scared to defy the desires of a man in a position of power above them. It’s physically sickening to even think that people would victim shame in such a scenario, and letting it go is almost as bad as the bull**** Merit’s been spewing

Key · 08-17-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

No, this is the kind of **** that needs to be called out. Toxic macho ****s like Merit are precisely the reason that nasty weirdos like Weinstein and Spacey etc etc etc have been able to get away with this **** for so long. Merit and so many others are literally incapable of thinking about things in any way outside of their safe white male bubble and its unfathomable to them that a young, defenseless woman would be too scared to defy the desires of a man in a position of power above them. It’s physically sickening to even think that people would victim shame in such a scenario, and letting it go is almost as bad as the bull**** Merit’s been spewing

I get it but I've exhausted any other points I can make to help him understand. At some point I just have to stop it for my own sanity. I didn't really want to express myself that way but it was necessary. I hate talking about it. But that's why I initially called him out. However it's dragged on too long and it's going nowhere. Itll just become a forum wide war against Merit and that wasn't my intention when I called him out. It's partially my fault.

Woah...that's slightly ironic.

Oriphiel · 08-17-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

I think it may be for the best to put this to rest. I take partial responsibility for derailing the thread.

You don't think it merits further discussion?

08-17-2018, 10:55 AM	#127 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It happens. Anyways, has anyone seen the Tom Segura special they have on Netflix? He's pretty funny in interviews but I haven't seen any of his standup. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I think it may be for the best to put this to rest. I take partial responsibility for derailing the thread.