That’s funny that you say it’s nothing like games from the 90’s when to me it specifically IS, because the games that the Arkham series reminds me of most are Super Metroid and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night...both 90’s masterpieces. The Arkham series rewards exploration and curiosity, and creativity in the way you handle battles and stealth sections. And it has a beautiful focus on atmosphere and tone, while also giving you a dearth of optional content if you want or a clear path to the story goals if that’s what you’d rather do. “Shallow” and “unfocused design” as descriptors are just flat out wrong on so many levels to me, as the combat is incredibly deep (try those higher difficulty combat challenges, I dare you), and each design decision is so well fleshed out and explored in so many different facets and contexts throughout the game that I just find it downright baffling that someone could feel that way.

It almost feels hypocritical that you look for interesting designs or focused gameplay yet you heap praise on the most barebones, copy+paste, stick-with-the-status-quo franchise in gaming history aka Dynasty Warriors. I mean dear god. Arkham Asylum is one of the most innovative titles of the 21st century. How could one desire “interesting” games and then love something like Dynasty Warriors or ****ing arcade shoot ‘em ups. At least be consistent with what you like.

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The combat in Arkham games is fantastic. It properly gives the feeling of being a badass Batman.

Yeah y'all that don't like the combat are probably just bad at it.

Arkham combat is literally just God of War’s but with a higher skill ceiling and more emphasis on timed button presses rather than button mashing

Not only that. But you feel the impact each time. At least in my experience. Feels good to get those perfect combos and take out 5 or 6 enemies at once.

My favorite is setting explosive gel traps and then leading a group of thugs into the killzone. Never gets old.

I've done that a few times. I really need to finish Asylum so I can get into City though I've been craving Fallout lately so I'm attempting to finish up Fallout 4. Getting hyped for Fallout 76.

I just paused Asylum right before the first Scarecrow platforming segment. I think I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and then get back to it.

The Scarecrow segments are ****ing amazing. I was blown away the first time I went through one.

Weird. You mean games have enemies that make the game difficult? What an odd concept.

Arkham: QTE Asylum

Pretty much.
But like a QTE that's generated based on enemy positions.
Not my cup of tea.

Did you even play the game? The entire combat system is based around a combo counter that goes up and increases the damage of your attacks the longer the combo is kept, and at certain points during a combo you can use finishers that have to be bought with XP

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I'm gonna assume no on this one.

For real. The true fun is when you get good at it and you can start mixing in dodges and quickfire gadgets while keeping your combo alive. It feels SO badass to punch a couple guys, batarang a dude from afar, quickdrop an explosive gel to bop some fools, counter the guy behind you and shoot a freeze shot at the guy near him...God of War’s combat is BABY stuff compared to what you can do in Arkham, and even are forced to do at higher difficulties where any slipup means half your health bar is gone

I've played asylum and I can guarantee that if you let go of the control, the combos stop. So no, they aren't auto combos.

Auto combo is a odd term so I'm just responding to it. Idk what that even means

That's what I'm saying as well. I've never felt more impact in a combat system until I played games with it. It's so much fun to take on groups of enemies at once. It feels way more realistic than most combat systems.

It's literally the least fun combat system I can think of without resorting to mentioning broken combat systems. Not really a fan of the Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden games as such, but the combat in those games was still loads more fun to me.

And if anyone had played a proper amount of Dynasty Warriors, they'd know it's more about trying to be the right time at the right place than being good at fighting. And in most of those games, if you're fighting the nameless grunts at all, you're doing it wrong.
Try playing Samurai Warriors 2 on normal difficulty with a lvl 1 character and you'll see what I mean. Pointing out that DW has a simple combat system is to miss the point of DW.

Batman basically choses his own moves to some extent. If I remember anything about playing those games at all, that is a fact. If I'm wrong, then I must have hallucinated playing those games.

I'd Google but trolling is way more fun. I sort of stopped caring about the conversation when you used silly reasoning to bsck up your claims.

So you played on easy mode?

I can beat God of War without ever pressing anything other than square. You will get demolished in Arkham if you’re not at the very least countering

Countering in Shadow of War is amazingly useful all the time.

Elph should do a let's play of Arkham do he can prove that he's far superior at gaming than all of us.

The use of fan boy is also funny to me. Of course were fanboys. We love the game. That's not an insult.

Basic bitch combat. Elph's got no time for that.

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Time to merge?

I'm not the one bitching lol

Yes it is. A fanboy is not just someone who loves a game. It's someone who can't keep his head straight when someone badmouths it. It's a severely negatively loaded term.

Nah.

Yah.

Yes I know it is. I just think it's a silly term to use. Elph is full of em. There are far more gaming related insults that are much worse. Fanboy is just a cop out.

oh man, we need an "unpopular opinions about video games" thread. I've got a thousand grievances to unload.

Anyway I'll just move on. I still wanna see an elph let's play.

Good luck on Dead Money.

The more video game threads the better.

Have you actually tried winning a fight with just the counter button? It doesn't work. You just fight almost endlessly because counter on its own doesn't do much damage. The actual basic attacks are yeah basically a QTE, but the point isn't playing a fighting game or even Devil May Cry game, it's positioning and tactics. The Arkham games aren't fighting games, they're Batman simulators; if you had to be able to pull off complex fighting game combos just to make Batman look and feel like Batman then it would be frustrating rather than empowering. This is why the combat is as much stealth, weapons, maneuvering, how you start a fight, etc as it is actual fighting. The game has to make you feel like Batman was also balancing the skill ceiling for doing so, otherwise the only people who'd get to feel like Bats would be lameass Git Gud bros.

And Bat comes in for the kill.

False.

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