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Justthefacts 06-06-2018 01:40 PM

No mention of Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, or Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots?

Fucking blasphemy.

MicShazam 06-06-2018 01:49 PM

I hate the MGS games. Endless cutscenes that are all, without exception, brain meltingly awful.

The Batlord 06-06-2018 02:00 PM

I remember playing a bit of of MSG1 as a kid and thinking it was cool but that was my entire experience until years later when my buddy loaned me MSG3 and I decided I was too lazy to get the hang of CQC.

MicShazam 06-06-2018 02:11 PM

I really wanted to like MGS1 back when I first played the demo, but despite how much I love stealth games, the stealth gameplay in these games always felt really awkward to me. So there's not even much for me there if I skip the cutscenes.

Justthefacts 06-06-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1959236)
I hate the MGS games. Endless cutscenes that are all, without exception, brain meltingly awful.

MGS 4 was the only one with one too many long cut scenes. Metal Gears my favorite video game series, I think Kojima's a genius. His cold war, nuclear holocaust, A.I conspiracy clone story lines are incredibly dense and well thought out. So fuck anyone who thinks CQC is not badass. And I seriously hope that Death Stranding gets a release date soon. Hopefully sometime this year but I'm not holding my breath on that.

MicShazam 06-06-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1959324)
MGS 4 was the only one with one too many long cut scenes. Metal Gears my favorite video game series, I think Kojima's a genius. His cold war, nuclear holocaust, A.I conspiracy clone story lines are incredibly dense and well thought out. So fuck anyone who thinks CQC is not badass. And I seriously hope that Death Stranding gets a release date soon. Hopefully sometime this year but I'm not holding my breath on that.

I would find it literally impossible to sit through MGS 4, probably.

Definitely dense storytelling, but genius is a label that gets thrown around too much. I don't think Kojima is a genius as much as he's just very idiosyncratic about things.

Justthefacts 06-06-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1959330)
I would find it literally impossible to sit through MGS 4, probably.

Definitely dense storytelling, but genius is a label that gets thrown around too much. I don't think Kojima is a genius as much as he's just very idiosyncratic about things.

Yeah I disagree. He is very idiosyncratic about certain things in all his games. But the level of storytelling he conjures up with for each Metal Gear has proven time and time again that he's one of the best writer/directors in any medium. And has been for awhile. He's a genius.

MicShazam 06-06-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1959369)
Yeah I disagree. He is very idiosyncratic about certain things in all his games. But the level of storytelling he conjures up with for each Metal Gear has proven time and time again that he's one of the best writer/directors in any medium. And has been for awhile. He's a genius.

I don't think there's any way I can comment on that without sounding like a massive snob. Let's just say that I disagree quite a bit.

Justthefacts 06-06-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1959372)
I don't think there's any way I can comment on that without sounding like a massive snob. Let's just say that I disagree quite a bit.

Huge Kojima fan. I have a tattoo of his face on my right ass cheek.

The Batlord 06-06-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1959375)
Huge Kojima fan. I have a tattoo of his face on my right ass cheek.

What's his tongue doing?

Oriphiel 06-06-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1959380)
What's his tongue doing?

Eating Konami's wife's pussy.

Key 06-08-2018 09:57 AM

Since we've slowed down a bit, I'll compile a list this weekend.

The way it'll work since we have so many submissions, people will be allowed to pick up to 10 games out of the compiled list, and at the end of it, the games with the most votes collectively will be put in their own threads. If you guys want me to increase that number lemme know. We can also save the other games for a round 2 of sorts if you prefer. I'm open for suggestions.

Key 06-08-2018 09:04 PM

Alright, here is a look at the list so far. I can keep this open for the weekend if people want to give some more suggestions. I think we've got a pretty solid list so far though. We've basically hit them all.

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1945 I
1945 II
8 Ball Pool
Akai Katana
Alien: Isolation
Armored Core 2
Armored Core 2: Another Age
Armored Core 3
Armored Core 4
Armored Core For Answer
Armored Core V
Armored Core: Nine Breaker
Armored Core: Verdict Day
Azure Dreams
Balloon Fighter
Banjo Kazooie
Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing
Bishi Bashi Special
Blitzkrieg
Bubsy 3-D
Bushido Blade
Call of Duty 2
Capcom vs SNK 2
Chrono Trigger
Civilization 4
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Company of Heroes
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Crash Bandicoot [PS1]
DK Country
DOOM
Danger Girl
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Dark Summit
Deathsmiles
Deathtrap Dungeon
Demolition Girl
Descent
Descent 2
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
DoDonPachi Resurrection
Doom 2
Dragon Blaze
Dragon's Dogma
Duke Nukem 3D
Duke Nukem: Time to Kill
Dungeon Master II
Dynasty Warriors 2
Dynasty Warriors 3
Dynasty Warriors 4
Dynasty Warriors 5
Earthbound
Elite
Fallout 3
Final Doom
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VII [PS1]
Frogger (TI-84)
Front Mission 3
Fusion Frenzy
G.Darius
Goldeneye
Gran Turismo [PS1]
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Gunbird
Gunbird II
Gungage
Half-Life 2
Halo 3
Halo: Combat Evolved
Helicopter [PC]
Heroes of Might
Horizon: Zero Dawn
JSRF
Jade Empire
Kagero Deception 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Legend of Kartia
Legend of Kyrandia 2: The Hand of Fate
Magic 3
Makai Kingdom
Master of Orion 2
Mechwarrior 2
Medal of Honor
Medal of Honor: Underground
Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots
Minecraft
Monkey Ball
Morrowind
Myst
Need For Speed: Underground [PS2]
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
Pandemonium
Panzer Front
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pirates - The Legend of Black Kat
Pokemon Red/Blue/Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pong
Pop N' Pop
Punchout
Raiden III
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Realms of Arkania: Shadows Over Riva
Red Alert 2
Rise of the Triad
Rome: Total War
SNK vs Capcom: SVC Chaos
Saints Row 2, 3, and 4
Samurai Aces
Samurai Warriors
Samurai Warriors 2
Secret of Mana
Sega Classics Collection
Shadow Warrior
Shadowhearts: Covenant
Shining Force
Shinobido: Way of the Ninja
Silent Line: Armored Core
Sol Divide
Sonic Pinball
Soulcalibur II
Soulcalibur V
Spinball
Star Wars: Master Of Teras Kasi [PS1]
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
StarCraft
Starfighter 3000
Starflight II
Starsweep
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Stretch Panic
Stunts
Suikoden 5
Super Mario Bros [NES]
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Super Smash Bros Melee
Syphon Filter [PS1]
System Shock
Taito Legends
Taito Legends 2
Tekken
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Tenchu 2
Tenchu Z
Tenchu: Fatal Shadows
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven
Tengai
Tetris [NES]
Timesplitters
The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match
The King of Fighters 2000
The King of Fighters 2001
The King of Fighters 2002
The King of Fighters 2003
The King of Fighters Neowave
The King of Fighters XIII
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Need for Speed
The Oregon Trail [PC]
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider II
Tomb Raider III
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater [PS1]
Trap Runner
UFO: Enemy Unknown
Velvet Assassin
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
Virtua Fighter 5
Warriors Orochi
Warriors Orochi 2
Warriors Orochi: Xtreme Legends
Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Wing Commander
Wolf Team
Worms

MicShazam 06-09-2018 01:30 AM

I can see Suikoden 5 is on the list. Number 5, but no Suikoden 1 & 2? :eek:
That makes me sad.

Also: I noticed Tokyo Xtreme Racer is on the list. Who put that on? I wouldn't pick it, but respect anyway! :laughing:

The Batlord 06-09-2018 02:56 AM

Mass Effect trilogy
Dragon Age: Origins

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960283)
I can see Suikoden 5 is on the list. Number 5, but no Suikoden 1 & 2? :eek:
That makes me sad.

Also: I noticed Tokyo Xtreme Racer is on the list. Who put that on? I wouldn't pick it, but respect anyway! :laughing:

Never played 1 and not enough of 2 to have an opinion, otherwise that might very well be up there.

MicShazam 06-09-2018 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960298)
Never played 1 and not enough of 2 to have an opinion, otherwise that might very well be up there.

Definitely among the handful most memorable JRPG experiences I've ever had, and I've play a lot of that kind of game back in the ps1/ps2 days. Suikoden II especially had a really good story. And I loved how every game has 108 characters that you can add to your castle and/or party.

Key 06-09-2018 09:00 AM

I'd also like to throw in a few more that got forgotten.

Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Halo: Reach
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild & Wind Waker
Borderlands 2
Diablo II
Rocket League
Pokemon X/Y
The Binding of Isaac (Original & Rebirth)

The Batlord 06-09-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960312)
Definitely among the handful most memorable JRPG experiences I've ever had, and I've play a lot of that kind of game back in the ps1/ps2 days. Suikoden II especially had a really good story. And I loved how every game has 108 characters that you can add to your castle and/or party.

I also have love for 4. The first Suikoden game I played and it gets **** on a bit by fans but I got my own ****ing galleon, and everything was so bright and fantastic looking.

MicShazam 06-09-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960451)
I also have love for 4. The first Suikoden game I played and it gets **** on a bit by fans but I got my own ****ing galleon, and everything was so bright and fantastic looking.

I gotta admit I didn't even get out of the starting area. It turned me off in less than half an hour and I just went straight on to Suikoden 5 instead.

The Batlord 06-09-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960458)
I gotta admit I didn't even get out of the starting area. It turned me off in less than half an hour and I just went straight on to Suikoden 5 instead.

Isabel from 5 was my absolute ****. Always dead center of my front line.

https://i.imgur.com/NEPj61e.png

Key 06-09-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1960452)
the first Rayman is the greatest platformer of all time

I don't know what weight that holds in this competition, it is just a truth

Rayman Advance is one of my favorite Rayman games of all time.

Key 06-09-2018 06:58 PM

I'll add yours and that one to the list. Solid choices.

MicShazam 06-10-2018 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960460)
Isabel from 5 was my absolute ****. Always dead center of my front line.
Spoiler for big image:

I can't really remember who I used in 5, but I played Suikoden II way more, so I recognize some characters when looking at a list of them.

I know this anime chick was usually on my team:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20091028232511

There's also a couple "mature lady knight" type characters in the game that looks like Suikoden II's take on Isabel from 5:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080708040844https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100307202709

Suikoden II had generally more grounded character designs where no one is carrying a boat sized sword or anything like that.

The Batlord 06-10-2018 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1960530)
Suikoden II had generally more grounded character designs where no one is carrying a boat sized sword or anything like that.

Like Jeane?

MicShazam 06-10-2018 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960537)
Like Jeane?

Seems I remembered things wrong. I din't play Suikoden 5 for more than a few hours so it seems different in my mind than it probably really was.

I was thinking her sword was kinda huge, but it's a lance, I suppose. I looked at some more Suikoden 5 characters and they're generally pretty realistic, so I'm remembering wrong. They're only slightly more frilly and colorful designs as compared to the very plain characters of Suikoden II, but it's no where near how over the top JRPG character designs usually seem these days.

Key 06-10-2018 10:56 AM

Going to officially call this segment closed by 8am tomorrow morning. If you have any more games you'd like to see in the final list before then, be sure to get them in now.

I've also not heard any suggestions regarding the number of games we can vote for so i'm keeping it at 10. So basically, once the full list is posted, you can choose 10 of the games in the list as games you'd like to see make it to the final polling round, then after that, i'll put together a list of the most voted for games collectively, and individually poll them in their own threads.

The Batlord 06-10-2018 11:06 AM

Devil May Cry 1 & 3
Fable
StarCraft 2
Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer
Resident Evil REmake
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2

Key 06-10-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960632)
Devil May Cry 1 & 3
Fable
StarCraft 2
Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer
Resident Evil REmake
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2

I'm honestly surprised that none of these were on the list yet. Adding them on though. Nice choices. I'd like to put Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne (Expansion) on the list if it's not there already.

MicShazam 06-10-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960632)
Devil May Cry 1 & 3
Fable
StarCraft 2
Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer
Resident Evil REmake
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2

Ooh, SH 1 and 2. Good choices. Usually, people leave out the first Silent Hill game, but it's my favorite.

Key 06-10-2018 11:27 AM

Since KOTOR 1 is on there, I'd like to put the more improved and better game KOTOR 2.

Key 06-10-2018 11:28 AM

And Alien: Isolation, for Batty.

EDIT: Nevermind. Already there.

kibbeh 06-10-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960632)
Devil May Cry 1 & 3
Fable
StarCraft 2
Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer
Resident Evil REmake
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2

the reboot?????

also

dragon age: inquisition
horizon zero dawn

and omg remember that tarzan game on ps2????? idk what its called exactly but i was obsessed

The Batlord 06-10-2018 12:43 PM

Haven't played the reboot. I mean the original DMC on PS2.

kibbeh 06-10-2018 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1960705)
Haven't played the reboot. I mean the original DMC on PS2.

honestly it was okay, not my favourite but i enjoyed it. they kept the secret keys/doors so hard to find that some levels i had to play like 10 times to get them all so that was a bit annoying. but also they made dante like a thousand times sexier so A++++++

Key 06-11-2018 08:16 AM

Here is the final list. All submissions from this post onward will not be counted. Now for the fun part. Everybody who wants to participate will choose 10 games out of the list, and the final games with the most votes will go onto the final round to be polled separately. I feel like since we have so many games, we'll do multiple rounds of voting, just so we're not wasting all the other submissions.

Anyway, get your votes in. I'll keep this going for a week, maybe next Monday i'll compile them etc etc.

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1945 I
1945 II
8 Ball Pool
Akai Katana
Alien: Isolation
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Armored Core 2
Armored Core 2: Another Age
Armored Core 3
Armored Core 4
Armored Core For Answer
Armored Core V
Armored Core: Nine Breaker
Armored Core: Verdict Day
Azure Dreams
Balloon Fighter
Banjo Kazooie
Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing
Bishi Bashi Special
Blitzkrieg
Borderlands 2
Bubsy 3-D
Bushido Blade
Call of Duty 2
Capcom vs SNK 2
Chrono Trigger
Civilization 4
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars
Company of Heroes
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Crash Bandicoot [PS1]
DK Country
DOOM
Danger Girl
Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight
Dark Summit
Deathsmiles
Deathtrap Dungeon
Demolition Girl
Descent
Descent 2
Devil May Cry 1
Devil May Cry 3
Diablo II
Diablo III
Disgaea
Disgaea 2
DoDonPachi Resurrection
Doom 2
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Dragon Age: Origins
Dragon Blaze
Dragon's Dogma
Duke Nukem 3D
Duke Nukem: Time to Kill
Dungeon Master II
Dynasty Warriors 2
Dynasty Warriors 3
Dynasty Warriors 4
Dynasty Warriors 5
Earthbound
Elite
Fable
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Final Doom
Final Fantasy 12
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VII [PS1]
Frogger (TI-84)
Front Mission 3
Fusion Frenzy
G.Darius
Goldeneye
Gran Turismo [PS1]
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Gunbird
Gunbird II
Gungage
Half-Life 2
Halo 3
Halo: Combat Evolved
Halo: Reach
Helicopter [PC]
Heroes of Might
Horizon Zero Dawn
JSRF
Jade Empire
Kagero Deception 2
Legend of Kartia
Legend of Kyrandia 2: The Hand of Fate
Magic 3
Makai Kingdom
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
Master of Orion 2
Mechwarrior 2
Medal of Honor
Medal of Honor: Underground
Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots
Minecraft
Monkey Ball
Morrowind
Myst
Need For Speed: Underground [PS2]
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
Pandemonium
Panzer Front
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pirates - The Legend of Black Kat
Pokemon Red/Blue/Fire Red/Leaf Green
Pokemon X/Y
Pong
Pop N' Pop
Punchout
Raiden III
Rayman
Rayman Advance
Real Bout Fatal Fury
Realms of Arkania: Shadows Over Riva
Red Alert 2
Resident Evil REmake
Rise of the Triad
Rocket League
Rome: Total War
SNK vs Capcom: SVC Chaos
Saints Row 2, 3, and 4
Samurai Aces
Samurai Warriors
Samurai Warriors 2
Secret of Mana
Sega Classics Collection
Shadow Warrior
Shadowhearts: Covenant
Shining Force
Shinobido: Way of the Ninja
Silent Hill
Silent Hill 2
Silent Line: Armored Core
Sol Divide
Sonic Pinball
Soulcalibur II
Soulcalibur V
Spinball
Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic II
Star Wars: Master Of Teras Kasi [PS1]
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
StarCraft
StarCraft 2
Starfighter 3000
Starflight II
Starsweep
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Stretch Panic
Stunts
Suikoden 5
Super Mario Bros [NES]
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Super Smash Bros Melee
Syphon Filter [PS1]
System Shock
Taito Legends
Taito Legends 2
Tekken
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Tenchu 2
Tenchu Z
Tenchu: Fatal Shadows
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven
Tengai
Tetris [NES]
The Binding of Isaac
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match
The King of Fighters 2000
The King of Fighters 2001
The King of Fighters 2002
The King of Fighters 2003
The King of Fighters Neowave
The King of Fighters XIII
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
The Need for Speed
The Oregon Trail [PC]
Timesplitters
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider II
Tomb Raider III
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater [PS1]
Trap Runner
UFO: Enemy Unknown
Velvet Assassin
Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
Virtua Fighter 5
Warriors Orochi
Warriors Orochi 2
Warriors Orochi: Xtreme Legends
Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Wing Commander
Wolf Team
Worms
And please, for the ones you're voting for, just paste the list and bold the ones you're voting for. Makes it easier to compile at the end.

Oriphiel 06-12-2018 07:56 AM

Omg, you actually put Demolition Girl on there? :laughing:

Key 06-12-2018 08:24 AM

I didn't leave any out that were suggested in the thread.

Key 06-13-2018 12:50 AM

So no votes so far. You guys know you can vote on the games now, right?

Key 06-13-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1961614)
So no votes so far. You guys know you can vote on the games now, right?

Anyone?

[MERIT] 06-13-2018 10:42 PM

No poll, no votes.


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