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Old 02-04-2019, 07:07 PM   #861 (permalink)
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Ew gross too much cishet energy in here
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:08 PM   #862 (permalink)
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:32 PM   #863 (permalink)
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I am not responsible for any other individual's personal behavior, nor is anyone else. We are sentient beings and exercise free will. Do our personal choices carry influence amongst the populace? Some more than others. But people should not be afraid to speak their beliefs.

Like I said, I will fight for your right to disagree with me, because personal freedom and liberty is more important than any set of beliefs.

You see, this is where we differ. I think that people should have freedom, but you only think that people should have freedom to do the things that you agree with. Example:

MERIT: "You can shit talk my beliefs all you want. That is your right and personal freedom. I hope that we can find common ground, but if not, then we shall agree to disagree and part ways."

Batty: "Your views are wrong and shouldn't exist."
I know you're not a dirty commie but think of "freedom" like wealth. In a system that has historically disproportionately benefited one group (in Western capitalism it would be rich white people) capitalism is going to put wealth in the hands of that group which they will use to consolidate ever greater wealth. And even when the law technically puts them on the same playing field as other groups in theory the wealthy elites still have the monetary power to unfairly prevent others from horning in on their economic territory.

Now when talking about freedom you can't necessarily redistribute freedom as if it were something physical, but you can try to shame the "freedom elites" who hold greater de facto accumulated freedoms into not being cockbags who use their greater influence to stifle the freedom of historically disenfranchised peoples who might technically have the same freedoms but are currently operating from a weaker political and social position.

Or something like that.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:57 PM   #865 (permalink)
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Yes those sweaty, schlubby losers who got together with their lawn torches to whom most everyone collectively laughed at are such a threat lmao. Get some new material bruv.
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Yes those sweaty, schlubby losers who got together with their lawn torches to whom most everyone collectively laughed at are such a threat lmao. Get some new material bruv.
and killled a person. with a car.
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White supremacists felt confident enough to hoist fire aloft en masse and chant anti-Semitic slogans while the President claimed that some of them "were very fine people". I think you need consider that you're underestimating a very serious problem.

And I would also ask why you choose this discussion in particular to come in on? I'm not saying anything about anything I'm aware you've ever supported.
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and killled a person. with a car.
I still don't see that as justification for classifying the fraction of a fraction of the US that actual neo-Nazis represent as a national threat.

I think laughing at them like the fringe psychos at they are is just fine.

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Nah it's just the constant hoisting of Charlottesville as the sole signifyer that white supremacy is supposedly "alive and well" in America got tiring real quick.

There's probably only about 10k legitimate white supremacists/Nazis in the US. I think the current generation over-inflates this because we seek a cause to fight for like those did 50 years ago. We're just blindly scaring ourselves for not that much reason, speaking generally.
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But there are millions of idiots who listen to actual propaganda all day and have no prospects, women or money. They are dangerous.
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I still don't see that as justification for classifying the fraction of a fraction of the US that actual neo-Nazis represent as a national threat.

I think laughing at them like the fringe psychos at they are is just fine.



Nah it's just the constant hoisting of Charlottesville as the sole signifyer that white supremacy is supposedly "alive and well" in America got tiring real quick.

There's probably only about 10k legitimate white supremacists/Nazis in the US. I think the current generation over-inflates this because we seek a cause to fight for like those did 50 years ago. We're just blindly scaring ourselves for not that much reason, speaking generally.
The problem isn't that America is gonna elect Hitler 2.0 in 2020 and the 13th Amendment is going to be repealed, the problem is that the culturally conservative backlash that's been building for decades and which was given new life after the recession and Obama is being influenced by that small group of people like Richard Spencer and Steve Bannon. They disseminate watered down neo-Nazi garbage to both conservatives looking for something to shout at liberals and moderate liberals who are at least sympathetic to those ideas when put in an innocuous enough way. And then politicians like Trump pick up on this and realize they can pull a movement behind them if spout these ideas on national television so that now we have veiled hatred setting the tone for political discourse.

And who the **** knows where that leads?
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