Fallout 4

EPOCH6 · 08-11-2015, 02:04 PM

I love both games and have played through both recently. All that fans who preferred F3 seem to defend over New Vegas is style and atmosphere. And all of that is subjective anyway, I'm a sucker for desert apocalypse styles and a sucker for faction / guild options in RPGs, making NV the more memorable game to me, subjectively. Where New Vegas is objectively superior is in gameplay expansion:

- Larger and more open ended map, less invisible walls, and still more marked locations
- Dynamic multi-path quests, many more main quests and many more side quests
- No more level scaling, much more difficult early on
- Improved VATS balancing, stat balancing, perk balancing
- Multiple factions (less good vs. evil, more realistically flawed organisations)
- Hardcore mode provided a lot more excitement / challenge for RPG oriented fans

In the end obviously personal preference and style prevails and really determines your taste in games, but it can't be denied that New Vegas really put a lot of effort into expanding and improving upon every gameplay element that Fallout 3 fans complained about post-release. And again, I love both games and don't tend to choose favorites, but Fallout: New Vegas deserves recognition for its strengths.

Black Francis · 08-11-2015, 03:54 PM

And Fallout3 has Liam Neeson, that makes them even.

Fallout3 not only has more memorable settings the story is easier to get into and it's more cinematic, especially in the beginning of the game. NV's plot is more convoluted and starts to branch out to lots of possibilities which is good however since the story is more layered it takes more time to get into it where as the fallout3 story is more easy to follow.

NV starts to get good once you reach the strip but fallout3 is good right from the beginning, Once those vault doors open and you reach Megaton you're already hooked on the story and Megaton is the first town you go to, what's the first town in NV? Boring ass Goodsprings, who the f*ck cares about that place? there's nothing memorable there.

I mean yea you got more options in NV but the location designs and even characters are boring if not forgettable on contrast almost all the locations of fallout3 are memorable..

Unknown Soldier · 08-11-2015, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Play them again and tell me 3 is better. New Vegas has far more replay value. I've sunk so many hours into that game it's retarded, but I only ever played 3 the one time. It was a great run, but after I did everything there wasn't anything else to do.

I've played them both a couple of times now and think more effort went into Fallout 3 as it feels more epic, whereas NV is kind of milking the cow, still a great game but I don't dig the Vegas strip stuff that much which is very central to the game.

For everybody here, I came across these the other day on Youtube the Fallout Lore Series which in a whole load of episodes charts the history of the Fallout world and it looks pretty in-depth and this is a good time to watch them or recap before Fallout 4 arrives.

These are the first three videos of the series.

The Batlord · 08-11-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6

I love both games and have played through both recently. All that fans who preferred F3 seem to defend over New Vegas is style and atmosphere. And all of that is subjective anyway, I'm a sucker for desert apocalypse styles and a sucker for faction / guild options in RPGs, making NV the more memorable game to me, subjectively. Where New Vegas is objectively superior is in gameplay expansion:

- Larger and more open ended map, less invisible walls, and still more marked locations
- Dynamic multi-path quests, many more main quests and many more side quests
- No more level scaling, much more difficult early on
- Improved VATS balancing, stat balancing, perk balancing
- Multiple factions (less good vs. evil, more realistically flawed organisations)
- Hardcore mode provided a lot more excitement / challenge for RPG oriented fans

In the end obviously personal preference and style prevails and really determines your taste in games, but it can't be denied that New Vegas really put a lot of effort into expanding and improving upon every gameplay element that Fallout 3 fans complained about post-release. And again, I love both games and don't tend to choose favorites, but Fallout: New Vegas deserves recognition for its strengths.

Don't forget the expanded weapon selection. The guns were kind of basic in 3, but with NV you have a far wider range of choices -- good choices -- than ever before.

Justthefacts · 08-11-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Don't forget the expanded weapon selection. The guns were kind of basic in 3, but with NV you have a far wider range of choices -- good choices -- than ever before.

And iron sights.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-12-2015, 03:21 AM

I pre-ordered it, getting a Nuke Pack. Missed out on a pipboy though.

Black Francis · 08-12-2015, 12:15 PM

That pipboy looks awesome but super impractical.

Im thinking its more of a collector's item than an extension of F4

LoathsomePete · 08-12-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I pre-ordered it, getting a Nuke Pack. Missed out on a pipboy though.

Hope is not lost.

Forget about the Fallout 4 Pip Boy Edition and 3D-print your own | Polygon

Justthefacts · 08-12-2015, 03:13 PM

The pip boys next year at Comic-Con are inevitable. The people wearing them are just gonna brag about it too

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-13-2015, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

That pipboy looks awesome but super impractical.

Im thinking its more of a collector's item than an extension of F4

But it looks so cool.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Hope is not lost.

Forget about the Fallout 4 Pip Boy Edition and 3D-print your own | Polygon

LoathsomePete you are a legend. Now I need to get access to a 3D printer.

08-11-2015, 03:54 PM	#32 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	And Fallout3 has Liam Neeson, that makes them even. Fallout3 not only has more memorable settings the story is easier to get into and it's more cinematic, especially in the beginning of the game. NV's plot is more convoluted and starts to branch out to lots of possibilities which is good however since the story is more layered it takes more time to get into it where as the fallout3 story is more easy to follow. NV starts to get good once you reach the strip but fallout3 is good right from the beginning, Once those vault doors open and you reach Megaton you're already hooked on the story and Megaton is the first town you go to, what's the first town in NV? Boring ass Goodsprings, who the fck cares about that place? there's nothing memorable there. I mean yea you got more options in NV but the location designs and even characters are boring if not forgettable on contrast almost all the locations of fallout3 are memorable.. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-12-2015, 03:21 AM	#36 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	I pre-ordered it, getting a Nuke Pack. Missed out on a pipboy though. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

08-12-2015, 12:15 PM	#37 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	That pipboy looks awesome but super impractical. Im thinking its more of a collector's item than an extension of F4 __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A