E3 2015

Unknown Soldier · 06-19-2015, 11:56 AM

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Excuse my low quality YouTube screenshots but ****, some damn nice looking environments coming our way.

It takes place in Boston right? If that's so then Boston seems a US city in fashion gamewise, as the first part of The Last of Us took place there as well.

When I first read about Fallout 4 they said the game was taking place in the Capital Wasteland again, then they said in the Mojave again and now it's East Coast and Boston. I would've preferred it had it been in California again like in Fallout 1 and 2.

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The general consensus is that this is one of the best E3s in years. A part of me wonders if a part of that was just due to console fatigue by 2011-2012 and downright apathy by 2013, not helped at all by Microsoft's woeful Xbox One reveal a few weeks prior. Then last year was pretty much "here's all the cool stuff that you can play in 2015 or later" which I think left a lot of people who bought a PS4 or Xbone feeling a little down on their new $400-$500 black rectangles. Now that we're a little further into this new generation it seems like some of the giddiness and anticipation is back, which is nice for a change, I'm getting a little tired of gamers hating on gaming all the damn time. The announcement of long anticipated games like Fallout 4, The Last Guardian, and Shenmue 3 probably helped quite a bit, although I'm not sure what I think yet about using Kickstarter for the latter.

Hell I never even knew that there was going to be a Shenmue 3 after all this time, I loved the first two games on Dreamcast but to release a sequel after almost 15 years seems kind of strange, are they going to recap the first two games to new players?

LoathsomePete · 06-19-2015, 12:25 PM

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It takes place in Boston right? If that's so then Boston seems a US city in fashion gamewise, as the first part of The Last of Us took place there as well.

When I first read about Fallout 4 they said the game was taking place in the Capital Wasteland again, then they said in the Mojave again and now it's East Coast and Boston. I would've preferred it had it been in California again like in Fallout 1 and 2.

Hell I never even knew that there was going to be a Shenmue 3 after all this time, I loved the first two games on Dreamcast but to release a sequel after almost 15 years seems kind of strange, are they going to recap the first two games to new players?

I would also prefer a California desert environment, but I think that's because I'm more a Fallout 1/2 purist. I also like the idea of a post apocalypse world taking place in a desert, but I also acknowledge that that era of Fallout is done and I have Wasteland 2 to get my fix. With any luck Obsidian or another studio on the west coast of the United States will do a New Vegas-esque spinoff using the same engine and gameplay as Fallout 4 but putting it in a different location.

As far as Shenmue 3 is concerned, nobody knew there was going to be one. Sony just announced it along with a Kickstarter at their press conference, and the announcement actually crashed Kickstarter. I never played the originals because I never owned a Dreamcast but I have heard that people have a great fondness for them for being ahead of their time. Apparently that's the game where quick-time events happened.

I'm still gathering my thoughts on companies using Kickstarter as a means to fund projects, or as recent Kickstarters like Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night have been using them to prove public interest in the game. I can kind of understand it to a degree, especially if you've already got a publisher willing to put up 90% of the funds, but I do think these things muddy the true costs of game development and can help cause new IPs and Kickstarters to fail because their audience doesn't understand why they are asking for certain amounts, when others have got by on less. I mean the original Shenmue reportedly cost 47 million to make so the idea that 2 million is going to cover the costs of a full 3D successor is pretty ludicrous.

I would not be surprised at all if Ubisoft did this next year for Beyond Good & Evil 2 though.

Unknown Soldier · 06-19-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

I would also prefer a California desert environment, but I think that's because I'm more a Fallout 1/2 purist. I also like the idea of a post apocalypse world taking place in a desert, but I also acknowledge that that era of Fallout is done and I have Wasteland 2 to get my fix. With any luck Obsidian or another studio on the west coast of the United States will do a New Vegas-esque spinoff using the same engine and gameplay as Fallout 4 but putting it in a different location.

I've recently played both Fallout 1 and 2 and when fore example you look at the Fallout Wiki it's easily the most developed region of the Fallout world over the largest area, because Fallout 3 and NV covered quite small areas in comparison. I now remember that they were thinking of doing a Fallout in San Francisco when would've been ideal as this is an area where NCR, Brotherhood of Steel and Shi are all different factions.

How does Wasteland 2 compare to the Fallout games in quality?

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As far as Shenmue 3 is concerned, nobody knew there was going to be one. Sony just announced it along with a Kickstarter at their press conference, and the announcement actually crashed Kickstarter. I never played the originals because I never owned a Dreamcast but I have heard that people have a great fondness for them for being ahead of their time. Apparently that's the game where quick-time events happened.

They were the flagship games of the Dreamcast when it came out, the first game was set in Japan and the second in China. I actually preferred the first one as it captured the essence of a Japanese urban and suburban environment perfectly (based on what I've seen in films etc) The QTE were unique and I think the first game that had them, there were some other novelties as well, some didn't work but some like the QTE did.

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I would not be surprised at all if Ubisoft did this next year for Beyond Good & Evil 2 though.

Now I'm interested in this a lot and it would get me to play the first one again, as I only kind of half played it before.

LoathsomePete · 06-19-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I've recently played both Fallout 1 and 2 and when fore example you look at the Fallout Wiki it's easily the most developed region of the Fallout world over the largest area, because Fallout 3 and NV covered quite small areas in comparison. I now remember that they were thinking of doing a Fallout in San Francisco when would've been ideal as this is an area where NCR, Brotherhood of Steel and Shi are all different factions.

How does Wasteland 2 compare to the Fallout games in quality?

Basically it's a nicer, more nuanced version of those games. More variety, better tactical mechanics, and some really interesting choices that need to be made. While the Fallout series was a spiritual successor to the original Wasteland, it really does feel like Wasteland 2 is the spiritual successor to the first two Fallout games.

Unknown Soldier · 06-19-2015, 01:27 PM

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Basically it's a nicer, more nuanced version of those games. More variety, better tactical mechanics, and some really interesting choices that need to be made. While the Fallout series was a spiritual successor to the original Wasteland, it really does feel like Wasteland 2 is the spiritual successor to the first two Fallout games.

It's on my long list to play and should get on it towards the end of the year. I've seen it's based in Arizona and Los Angeles, so it covers the same physical area of Fallout 1 and 2 to a degree.