TheBig3

it might be if the game goes through an overhaul, but as a Support main, the idea of creating more Tank supports is great. Bard was not great and I have yet to even try him.

Every game I've been in with him has been one-sided. Either he screws up hard or, in 10% of the games, he's underestimated, doesn't feed, and his team rolls on to victory.

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YorkeDaddy

Yeah Bard was kind of designed for pros rather than solo queue. He's a pretty highly contested support pick in pro play because of his ability to excel when the entire team is on the same page.

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I think they do a great job of making champs fun to play even if you're bad.

They have really stepped up their game by giving pros champs with really high skill ceilings while keeping the skill floors reasonable for the average bronze/silver players.

Azir, Bard, Ekko, and now the River King.. Things have come along way since the days of Annie, Nunu, Yi, etc. (easy to learn hard to master). I hope they continue to release both kinds of champs.

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YorkeDaddy

Yeah when Azir came out and everyone thought he was garbage I was like..."just wait until the pros master him"

And whaddya know, now he's a top tier mid pick in all regions

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The loudest mouths tend to be the smallest minds. The amount of times I hear the things below just bothers me to no end.

1. "Dude, the support is supposed to follow the ADC around and make sure he gets fed"

2. "Kills let you get towers, so yes, kills are important"

3. "That's not a support champ, you're a ****ing troll"

4. "Split pushing is always the answer."

Anytime I hear people complaining (Like with Azir) I know he's probably good. Bard's the only one I've backed because he didn't have an offensive role (is he a tank, is he a mage?) He strikes me as a utility like Nami is. Just not nearly as dangerous.

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Yeah stuff like this is kind of why solo queue drives me nuts nowadays. Problem with me is that I'm mechanically very poor which is why I'm just a measly low gold player while my knowledge of the game is like diamond-master level, so when I'm in a game and people say ignorant crap it's really hard to keep my mouth shut. And then when you try to explain the right way of thinking they just rage and the whole team morale is shattered and it's an awful experience.

So that's why I watch more than I play nowadays. It's just more fun for me to see things executed at the highest level.

Bard is a very interesting champ and I still think there's untapped potential. His ult when placed well (which is WAAAAAAAY easier said than done) can be the highest impact teamfight skill in League of Legends. Like seriously there's nothing that can swing a game like that. Plus Magical Journey has so many fascinating uses, it's just a ton of fun to see high level players using Bard and all of the hilarious trickery he's capable of.

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At least you made it to Gold. I'm in Bronze and it really is a matter of taking the most OP champs because you need to carry against the troll-tide.

Last night I had a Rek'Sei who'd just stay in his lane until the 30 min mark, then roam the jungle and attack objectives alone. It's things like that, no matter what anyone says, that basically hold the other 4 players back. He was our tank, and his head was up his ass.

You can only really carry as the ADC, the top lane, or maybe an AD jungle. If you're mid, tank jungle, or support, you're ****ed.

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I think certain mids can carry well at low elos as long as you know how to abuse the bads that never ward or look at the mini map. I mean just pick LeBlanc, roam, and get double kills and you'll snowball the game in no time.

I duo'd with my buddy with me on ADC and him on support and we got to gold pretty quickly. We spammed Graves-Blitzcrank and pretty much dominated bot every game, all I had to do was passive farm (I had top CS in nearly every game) until he landed a pull and then I'd blow my combo on their ass for a kill. Rinse, repeat, then roam after taking tower and snowball.

Having a decent duo partner that's willing to work with you and not flame teammates really makes solo queue a lot easier to deal with

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Honestly dude just get good with any champ and play it as often as you can.. You can easily get gold with a good understanding of the game and skill on one champ. I went 9-1 in my qualifying matches on TEEMO(midlane) in season 3. Not because I crushed lane, because I counter roamed, setup shrooms for dragon fights and enemy jungle vision, and helped with objectives. Your team doesn't have to be good if you can set up good vision for yourself and make them aware of what the enemy is doing you can make scrubs useful. Tracking blue/red buff timers, dragon timers, knowing how to control the minions to push in or freeze lane, etc.

OR, get super mechanically skilled on a snowbally roam champ like Katarina and just wreck low elo players.

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grtwhtgrvty

That wasn't offtopic but okay. We can agree to disagree.