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Chula Vista 07-12-2017 11:41 AM
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Trollheart 07-12-2017 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1854863)
I mean, despite the lack of exposition, it is pretty simple and straightforward tbh. I'm biased because I've understood the movie from a young age (don't really remember if I had help or not, probably a combo of conversation with my uncle and my own brain). The transition between ape and man is a pretty loud hint at the themes imo.

And yes the idea is that the signals are pushing humans along.
Like I said, I got it up to the wormhole (which I did not realise was a wormhole). After that I was lost.
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Chula Vista 07-12-2017 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1854974)
Like I said, I got it up to the wormhole (which I did not realise was a wormhole). After that I was lost.
You really should read the novel. The wormhole part is not just a feaky light show like in the movie. Bowman sees all kinds of stuff during his journey.

Mondo Bungle 07-12-2017 09:09 PM
Movies really are a visual experience

Go smoke like 4 joints and watch it

Trollheart 07-13-2017 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1855019)
You really should read the novel. The wormhole part is not just a feaky light show like in the movie. Bowman sees all kinds of stuff during his journey.
I might do. I read some Clarke when I was younger though and found it very dry and boring. Can't remember what: Rendezvous with Rama, maybe? Not sure.

Trollheart 07-13-2017 02:57 PM
Oh, one other point: it always seemed to me that the monolith was not showing the emerging humans how to use tools, but weapons, and that, as such, the aliens then sped up our evolution along lines of conflict and eventually tribal wars, murder and destruction, rather than a peaceful co-existence. Maybe I got that wrong? Is it possible, though, that the aliens knew that without conflict Man would never become ambitious or powerful enough to make it to the stars?


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