The whole thing with the ring and how space Jackman appeared in front of the Mayan priest just came out of left field for me. I have no problem with a film being deep and hard to get, but I just felt it didn't work well in the story. If they kept all the mystery but dropped the emotional baggage of Rachel Weiss's character dying, I think it would have worked better. I think they should have either stuck with the love story or the philosophy behind live/death.

I felt like her dying, and writing her novel is what made a man otherwise ruled by science, and reason, see things in a perspective that never would have even entered is mind or his heart had the love his life not been dying. I thought the message of not letting your life pass you by because you are busy trying to control that which is beyond your grasp and is beyond your understanding was clear and concise.

I dunno what you mean the ring thing. He lost it in the OR.

I also looked at the, for lack of better term "space Jackman''as a manifestation of his subconscious mind reaching Nirvana and being able to connect with the past. I also looked at it in an ego death perspective, strictly based on imagery of those frames.

Him losing the ring seemed odd to me though, like it disappeared through some sort of supernatural force. I didn't feel like he just lost it by chance.

I can't argue with your points though. They're pretty valid. Maybe I'll just chalk it up to personal viewing experience and me being a bad person lol.

Oh no! I hope I didn't come off like a d-bag. That's just how the film spoke to me. Ego death seemed to be the message.

Seriously tho Exo I hope I didn't imply you are a' bad peron '.If I did make you feel that Im so sorry.

Woah woah, you didn't. I was just joking at my expense.

I thought so,but just wanted to say it just incase I did.

Finally watched it last night. I basically agree with everything Exo said on the first page. Beautiful film, with a great concept. But it was flawed. I ended up not really understanding what the point was, or if there was something I was missing. Like, did I just not get it, or was there actually nothing to get?

Exactly. Every time I watch The Fountain I am drawn into such an uncomfortable emotional state (in a good way) that I don't want it to end. Do the visuals and the superb score gloss over some of the plots shortcomings? Of course they do but so do they in David Lynch films but that's OK because he is a genuine auteur :(

I think Aronofsky could be called an auteur as well (though I didn't see Noah), he's just not as solidified in his status as one and uniquely stylized as Lynch (mother****er has a whole style of film named after him, after all).

Yeah, I totally flaked on this one. I'll be around for the next one though (hopefully).