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jwb 10-29-2019 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2086558)
"You're breaking internet argument rules so I'm right by default."

... It's not a rule. It's just a different argument.

If you wanna say it's not funny at this point I don't care.

All I argued was it's not vindictive. And that post didn't even say it was. So how is it relevant?

Frownland 10-29-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086554)
nigga pls

I explained what I found brilliant about his special cause I felt like it and cause I actually like the special

If you have nothing but clips to add then do you... I mean that's REAL

I was explaining why people responding to your posts here is just a product of statistics as opposed to a character trait.

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once again we're back where we started
That's what I'm sayin

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No, vindictiveness (defined by Google as as strong or unreasoning need for revenge) didn't drive those jokes at all

To the extent that he "responded" to the backlash it was by not deciding to avoid certain topics altogether to avoid controversy. He said nothing hateful, nothing mean spirited, nothing bent on revenge
So you ignored my post where I said that spitefulness is a good synonym in this scenario. Thanks for clarifying.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086556)
uhh.. wasn't that from the argument we had months ago, before you said anything about him being vindictive?

Yes and it applies to this discussion too, go figure.

jwb 10-29-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2086563)
So you ignored my post where I said that spitefulness is a good synonym in this scenario. Thanks for clarifying.

1) if it's a synonym them you wouldn't have to switch words to maintain your point
2) the jokes are also not driven by spite

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Yes and it applies to this discussion too, go figure.
no.

Frownland 10-29-2019 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086564)
1) if it's a synonym them you wouldn't have to switch words to maintain your point

You have weird rules.

Enjoy chasing your tail, dawg.

The Batlord 10-29-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086564)
1) if it's a synonym them you wouldn't have to switch words to maintain your point

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jwb 10-29-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2086565)
You have weird rules.

Enjoy chasing your tail, dawg.

I accept your apology

Frownland 10-29-2019 09:41 PM

Millennials always demanding apologies these days...get over it snowflake, it's just a disagreement.

jwb 10-29-2019 09:43 PM

I said i forgive you.. please don't be spiteful/vindictive about it

Frownland 10-29-2019 09:45 PM

Bitch I was just being funny.

jwb 10-29-2019 09:47 PM

I couldn't tell the difference cause Vox didn't write a piece about it yet

Frownland 10-29-2019 10:01 PM

Lol like I know how to read. What a nerd.

jwb 10-30-2019 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2086527)

I said I'd be fair so I honestly tried to reserve my previous bias from my impressions of him on tough crowd, last comic standing and o&a

I can honestly say i listened to the first 6 mins with open ears

****in God awful

An obese effeminate white man doing his best def jam delivery

Circe-de-so-gay? Really?

Tramsmestites?

I'm sorta glad he's dead tbh

Who's next, Gabriel Inglesias?

Frownland 10-30-2019 06:54 PM

Guess you're not a real comedy fan then.

jwb 10-30-2019 06:59 PM

I don't care. That was honestly terrible.

The Batlord 10-30-2019 07:18 PM

I guess you can only like a male comedian who lives up to your brittle standards of masculinity. I mean you talk about being bisexual but bitch about dudes being effeminate just cause they have a bit of a higher pitch in their voice? No wonder you can only listen to 90s hip hop, you caveman retard.

jwb 10-30-2019 07:26 PM

Nah I threw in effeminate cause it makes his stock black male def jam delivery all the more cringeworthy. But the material was also awful.

You really gonna sit here and defend cirque de so gay? That's one of the cringiest lines I've ever heard.

Frownland 10-30-2019 07:29 PM

Hoes mad.

jwb 10-30-2019 07:30 PM

What are you mad at? I gave my honest opinion.

Frownland 10-30-2019 07:32 PM

That's kind of a long story, but I was talking about you.

jwb 10-30-2019 07:36 PM

Well thanks for keeping me in mind.

The Batlord 10-30-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086738)
Nah I threw in effeminate cause it makes his stock black male def jam delivery all the more cringeworthy. But the material was also awful.

You really gonna sit here and defend cirque de so gay? That's one of the cringiest lines I've ever heard.

Yeah keep backpedaling.

jwb 10-30-2019 07:52 PM

... backpeddling from what?

I like plenty of male comics that are not beacons of stereotypical manliness. In fact... alpha maleness is a rare quality in a good stand-up. Your assertion is simply nonsense.

Funny how you don't want to try to defend the actual material... Yet I'm "backpeddling."

The Batlord 10-30-2019 08:03 PM

I mean you bitch about sjw snowflakes and now you throw out effeminate as an insult as if it's a legitimate insult for anyone who isn't an anti-sjw dickhead. Yeah you're backpedaling.

jwb 10-30-2019 08:05 PM

I also called him white and obese in the same sentence..

Cause I was making fun of his stereotypical def jam delivery filtered through a fat white sissy's mouth

You honed in on the word "effeminate" while ignoring all the words around it cause as always you're desperate for a gotcha moment.. cause you can't defend how terrible that clip was.

You even managed to drag my sexuality into it... You silly bigot.

The Batlord 10-30-2019 08:12 PM

Yeah because you're a dip**** who latches onto traditionalism for your sense of keeping the world in an easy to relate to perspective even though you're kind of a fringe person who doesn't realize that a lot of the time you side with perspectives that do not necessarily like you.

jwb 10-30-2019 08:27 PM

.. you're a bad e shrink

Key 10-30-2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2086527)

The fact that people ever thought he was funny is still a mystery to me.

jwb 10-31-2019 05:04 PM

You say it's taboo... It's not really taboo in Hollywood. It might be taboo at any particular dinner table. But in this industry there's undeniably more of a taboo against being percieved a bigot than there against the marginalized groups they're trying to shelter from any cricism.

It's all about how powerful the lobbying group behind you is. Jews are far from a disenfranchised group in this country yet you can still get in trouble for saying anything that borders on anti-Semitic.

jwb 10-31-2019 05:06 PM

I don't think he made himself out to be a martyr. If he was doing press tours on the threat to comedy in a serious tone, that would fit. Instead he did what a comedian does and worked it into his act. Social commentary has always been part of comedy and usually, if a comedian addresses their own controversies directly on stage, this is seen as an appropriate response.

jwb 10-31-2019 05:10 PM

Sorry to hear that.

And sorry that you edited bitchy to whiny

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086998)
I don't think he made himself out to be a martyr.

Lmao dude you're dreaming. Even if he didn't, obsessive anti-PC dorks like yourself are doing a great job of it for him.

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If he was doing press tours on the threat to comedy in a serious tone, that would fit. Instead he did what a comedian does and worked it into his act. Social commentary has always been part of comedy and usually, if a comedian addresses their own controversies directly on stage, this is seen as an appropriate response.
Double lmao at thinking that Chappelle offered any unique or valuable social commentary in his special.

jwb 10-31-2019 06:24 PM

I don't think I painted him as a martyr either. I do love how you can't get over me liking the special despite your disapproval.

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2087021)
I don't think I painted him as a martyr either.

Whatever you'd like to tell yourself.

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I do love how you can't get over me liking the special despite your disapproval.
How does you painting him as a martyr run counter to you liking the special? They go hand in hand as far as I can tell.

jwb 10-31-2019 06:43 PM

When did I paint him as a martyr? He's a triumphant champion, not a martyr.

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:50 PM

Jacking off to him totes pwning the PC bogeyman that you already had a hate boner for has the air of championing him as a martyr for the harsh and traumatic criticism he got from those meanie critics.

jwb 10-31-2019 07:00 PM

Maybe you don't know what a martyr is

When someone attacks you and you attack them back and pwn them, you're not a martyr

You're only a martyr when you fall on your sword for your cause

My whole point about Chappelle from the beginning is that he has ****-you money which allows him to cross lines with relative impunity, where other comics wouldn't able to. This gives him more freedom.

Beyond that, your understanding of what I like about the special is simplistic to say the least... I don't like it just cause he "pwned" his PC critics. I like the way he played with the common narrative and kept straddling both sides as to keep you guessing, and above all I liked single funny lines with a good delivery.

Frownland 10-31-2019 07:12 PM

"Whatever you'd like to tell yourself."

-Socrates

jwb 10-31-2019 07:20 PM

... last word.

- jwb

jwb 10-31-2019 07:46 PM

So I just saw a video on YouTube saying norm MacDonald's show on Netflix is cancelled.

Then there's a clip of Joe rogan & Sam Harris taking about the Louis ck defense and how that got him in trouble...

I'll be honest. I don't think the Louis ck comments helped endear him to the right people at all. But the Netflix show was a bust. I'm a huge fan of his and I've only seen a few episodes cause it's just boring run of the mill late-night interview type ****.

The real travesty is that he ditched his podcast/YouTube show, pulled all the episodes off YouTube in order to pursue this Netflix deal. Now it's a bust and he wants go back to podcasting but can't cause his contract with Netflix prevents him.

Should've stuck with the old show. Trying to bring it to a wider audience via Netflix was the biggest mistake he'll ever make.

Frownland 10-31-2019 08:05 PM

Ja his podcast stuff is way better, but I thought it was pretty funny how little of a **** he gave about the Netflix show because Netflix tried to put a container on his content. They clearly came to him with a big check and he was like aight whatever. I bet it just underperformed as well, I didn't watch all of them and I'm pretty into him.


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