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bob. 05-29-2014 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1454833)
The Fountainhead

:yikes:

this makes me sad

i just don;t see how you can have someone like Herbert Selby Jr and that tart Ayn Rand in the same list

although i will be honest....i have never read The Fountainhead....but i did read Atlas Shrugged....and i will say that she was a very good writer

but to counter the Objectivism....

first and foremost please read

The Illuminatus! Trilogy.....not only is this book a backlash to neo conservative ideals....but it has talking dolphins....and a giant naked woman....and an army of dead Nazi's....and EVERYBODY in it is on more drugs than those cats at Woodstock!

plus it really is a wonderful satire while also being a wonderful book about why life should only be for the living

also

Journey to the Center of Night and Death on the Installment Plan

Céline is truly a personal hero of mine.....don't like the way i write....blame him

existential nihilism explained perfectly

reading his books is like having a drunk, bitter old man yell at you inside your head

a quote to get you going

“To hell with reality! I want to die in music, not in reason or in prose. People don't deserve the restraint we show by not going into delirium in front of them. To hell with them!”

The Sheltering Sky

if you like any underground music from the 70s-present...you should probably give a nod to Paul Bowles

everything i've ever read by him is full of amazing lucid landscapes coupled with the one thing we as humans all share...existential despair

i can honestly say that The Sheltering Sky is one of my all time favorite books ...and i try to give a copy of it to everyone who is interested

The Book of the Law

Thelema is not for everyone.....but i think everyone should know about it....and understand what it is....the Book of the Law and maybe The Book of Lies will give you a full understanding of just what Gnosticism is

Howl

Ginsberg really knew his shit and i't amazing how every fucking word in this book is as relevant as it was when City Lights first printed it....or maybe it's sad

The Function of the Orgasm

Reich would be another hero of mine....

the man was seriously onto something when the American government arrested him and all copies of his books burned in 1956....simply for trying to heal the Earth and everything on it

this book really is the basis for all of his work

i also suggest The Mass Psychology of Fascism....as it really is as relevant as it is when he wrote it....

funny....one of the first books on Hitler's to burn list was The Mass Psychology of Fascism and the last major book burning conducted by the United States government was anything he ever wrote

ever heard the song by Kate Bush called Cloudbusting?

that song is about Reich's arrest told from the point of view of his son Peter

hate paper doll 05-29-2014 01:43 AM

I'm not a fan of Ayn Rand, but I do think it's worth putting on the list. Same with Kerouac.

Janszoon 05-29-2014 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1454837)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury

Oh yeah, seconded.

Also:
The Fixer by Bernard Malamud
Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood

bob. 05-29-2014 01:56 AM

wait did you mention a book by Kerouac?

i caught the Bukowski book....but not the Kerouac

sorry i really have a deep hatred for Ayn Rand

i would also think that everyone should read The Wizard of OZ....if anything for the origin story of the tin man

bob. 05-29-2014 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1454905)
Oh yeah, seconded.

Also:
The Fixer by Bernard Malamud
Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood

ohhhh great choices :)

Janszoon 05-29-2014 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1454908)
ohhhh great choices :)

Thanks! :)

A few more I'd add that I think are incredible but very underrated or not well known:

The Kryptonite Kid by Joseph Torchia
A novel written in the form of a series of letters to Superman from a young boy growing up in an abusive home in the 50s.

The Nuclear Age by Tim O'Brien
Far better than the more acclaimed The Things They Carried imo. It's the life story of an obsessive man told in fragments as he digs a massive hole in his backyard for a fallout shelter.

The Minotaur Takes a Cigarette Break by Steven Sherrill
A funny, sad, poetic book about the Minotaur living out his days in a trailer park and working as a prep cook. It's a hard book to describe, but it really is something special.

The Batlord 05-29-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1454868)
I've never made it through anything by Ayn Rand. I just... I can't. Too dull.

Oh god I know. If she wanted to write something that turns liberals into caricatures so overblown that it stops being useful as a critique then she should have just done another essay. Quit writing dull fiction, you cow. I got halfway through Atlas Shrugged and just couldn't take it anymore. I don't care about some revolutionary metal. I don't care about some revolutionary car engine. I don't care about a train ride. I don't care about what these are metaphors for. I just care about setting this book on fire so I can jump off a cliff to rid myself of your awful, awful writing.

And I say this as someone who was a goofy libertarian at the time.

bob. 05-29-2014 10:21 AM

so you didn't get to the 80 page monologue by John Galt....where he describes the opening question :)

weird...,.i actually think she really was a good writer....just that her morals and philosophy were absolute shit

DwnWthVwls 05-29-2014 10:30 AM

I don't do much reading, but I had to read this for college and I thought it was interesting.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...istoryzinn.jpg

James 05-29-2014 10:31 AM

One Hundred Years Of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. My favourite book probably. I did my highs school dissertation on this book and the more I delved into it the more I loved it.

The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera is another favourite novel.

For poetry I would suggest the collected John Keats.

Last of all and perhaps most importantly please read the collected plays of Henrik Ibsen and Anton Chekhov.


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