The Gaming Industry

Wpnfire · 03-16-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KeineLust

The only old games I like are on MS-DOS
DOOM (easy)
Wolfenstein 3D (literally just point and shoot)
TES Arena (hard because theres monsters everywhere)
TES Daggerfall (medium)

Wow, even people who admit they don't like video games and seldom play them STILL enjoy DooM.

That game truly is magical.

Also, DooM is how I discovered Slayer. No joke.

djchameleon · 03-17-2014, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

You sound like the kind of person who picks up Ninja Gaiden, plays it for 10 minutes, then complains it's too difficult and isn't fun and gives up. You sound like a quitter, and like you're bad at video games, doesn't mean everyone else is nor that they should share your lame opinion. While I agree the only "broken" game I can think of on NES is Ghost n Goblins, that's only because it never ends. Kid Icarus, The Legend of Kage, now those are hard games. I have never taken playing games seriously enough to get upset over them. Grow up.

Black Francis · 03-17-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

Something I can say that I'm happy to see in modern gaming, points-based leveling systems are becoming more popular and more prevalent. As someone who didn't have many other nerd friends in high school, I'm glad to have other people to talk about the **** with nowadays. I mean **** with with Diablo 3 you just know half these people are gonna wanna play the rest of the series so they can pretend they did all along.

i have a crazy theory about that,

I think Rpg games are becoming obsolete, especially old school Rpgs where you have to grind to level up so nowadays other games are adapting and simplifying the lvl up system and using it to add a little Rpg element to their game

For me, it's like they are taking the best features of the Rpg and discarding the rest, you don't have to grind much to lvl up you just follow the story and you level up, i reached Lvl 50 in Mass effect without feeling i did any grinding, however in Fallout i did have to grind a bit just to get to lvl 30

Carpe Mortem · 03-17-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

i have a crazy theory about that,

I think Rpg games are becoming obsolete, especially old school Rpgs where you have to grind to level up so nowadays other games are adapting and simplifying the lvl up system and using it to add a little Rpg element to their game

For me, it's like they are taking the best features of the Rpg and discarding the rest, you don't have to grind much to lvl up you just follow the story and you level up, i reached Lvl 50 in Mass effect without feeling i did any grinding, however in Fallout i did have to grind a bit just to get to lvl 30

I'd definitely say the grinding is fading away, but it's definitely a good thing. ****, the days I wasted raising my level along with my blood pressure.

We are seeing more and more interest in the mathematics, strategic side of RPG's though. Whereas before many games would auto-assign points for players, today it seems that more and more are giving players that control. I'm not saying it didn't happen before, that's for damn sure, but let me put it this way.... I have chick friends who know that you're supposed to beef up intelligence if you're a wizard. They did not know that five years ago.

Black Francis · 03-17-2014, 04:05 PM

@Carpe Mortem

Haha yea i hear what you mean.

Im all for it as well, i like every game where you can Lvl up but i kinda think old school Rpgs are becoming obsolete in consoles, even Rpg console games now are focusing on making the games more like a movie than a game and i don't like that, Epic graphics don't impress me especially considering every next gen game looks equally amazing so instead i rather play a game with good gameplay rather than epic graphics

Personally, one of the last Rpgs that i played on a console that had an old school rpg vibe to it was Persona 4 for the Ps2, Atlus is f*ckin amazing at making old school rpgs with a new twist and i think the old school rpg formula can still be used in creative ways, i mean look at the new SP game 'The stick of truth' that game is doing well and it's old school rpg as f*ck.

Being mostly an rpg gamer i feel my demographic is being forgotten for the FPS and RTS demographic, all the rpgs seem to be going to handheld systems and consoles don't get them

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 03-17-2014, 04:07 PM

I like the online play of the last few yrs. I get little joy vs a c omputer and prefer the competition of playin others

Black Francis · 03-17-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

I like the online play of the last few yrs. I get little joy vs a c omputer and prefer the competition of playin others

Likewise, Online play is amazing the only drawback it's how loud and stupid some f*ckin kids are.

some ppl are entertaining when they use a mic but others are just whiny and annoying.

djchameleon · 03-17-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

i have a crazy theory about that,

I think Rpg games are becoming obsolete, especially old school Rpgs where you have to grind to level up so nowadays other games are adapting and simplifying the lvl up system and using it to add a little Rpg element to their game

For me, it's like they are taking the best features of the Rpg and discarding the rest, you don't have to grind much to lvl up you just follow the story and you level up, i reached Lvl 50 in Mass effect without feeling i did any grinding, however in Fallout i did have to grind a bit just to get to lvl 30

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

@Carpe Mortem

Haha yea i hear what you mean.

Im all for it as well, i like every game where you can Lvl up but i kinda think old school Rpgs are becoming obsolete in consoles, even Rpg console games now are focusing on making the games more like a movie than a game and i don't like that, Epic graphics don't impress me especially considering every next gen game looks equally amazing so instead i rather play a game with good gameplay rather than epic graphics

Personally, one of the last Rpgs that i played on a console that had an old school rpg vibe to it was Persona 4 for the Ps2, Atlus is f*ckin amazing at making old school rpgs with a new twist and i think the old school rpg formula can still be used in creative ways, i mean look at the new SP game 'The stick of truth' that game is doing well and it's old school rpg as f*ck.

Being mostly an rpg gamer i feel my demographic is being forgotten for the FPS and RTS demographic, all the rpgs seem to be going to handheld systems and consoles don't get them

I don't really think you are an rpg gamer. There have been some really great grindy type RPGs that has been released lately. Did you even touch NiNoKuni? I don't know if you have a 3DS but Bravely Default came out recently. They are still cranking out "Tales of" games. The last tales game I got was Tales of Xilia and I can't wait til part 2 comes out soon. It's already out in Japan but being translated for the US market. White Knight Chronicles though that came out a few years ago the second part to it is pretty great also. JRPGs are still being cranked out. It's funny that you mention Persona because I heard that a new one is coming out soon.

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Likewise, Online play is amazing the only drawback it's how loud and stupid some f*ckin kids are.

some ppl are entertaining when they use a mic but others are just whiny and annoying.

LOL you actually listen to people during online play? I always mute it. I don't care about what they have to say.

Black Francis · 03-17-2014, 04:57 PM

@Dj

I am an Rpg gamer i just haven't played some Jrpgs cause i don't have alot of money, and like u mentioned it's mostly Jrpgs keeping the old school formula alive, you mentioned the 'Tales of' games and that's a good exmpl of how not many games have crossover like that and that's why they have a solid fan base because there are not many games like that in the US market.

And sadly thats my market, i don't live in japan so all i see is FPS games everywhere overshadowing the few good rpgs the console has, in handheld systems there is alot of successful rpgs they never bother to bring to consoles, why?

I like handheld games but i prefer the console experience over it.

djchameleon · 03-17-2014, 05:01 PM

Have you thought about getting a Gamefly subscription? Then you can rent all the good rpgs that are on consoles to your heart's content.

I recently got Animal Crossing in the mail but it's so not my thing. I thought I would be into it since I like Harvest Moon but idk. I'm sending it back for my next game in the q.

RPGs are always worth the money because of how many hours you have to put into playing it but because of that you can also see why they aren't as rampant as FPS games. The amount of hours it takes to complete RPG games imagine the development time that it takes.

03-17-2014, 04:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	@Carpe Mortem Haha yea i hear what you mean. Im all for it as well, i like every game where you can Lvl up but i kinda think old school Rpgs are becoming obsolete in consoles, even Rpg console games now are focusing on making the games more like a movie than a game and i don't like that, Epic graphics don't impress me especially considering every next gen game looks equally amazing so instead i rather play a game with good gameplay rather than epic graphics Personally, one of the last Rpgs that i played on a console that had an old school rpg vibe to it was Persona 4 for the Ps2, Atlus is fckin amazing at making old school rpgs with a new twist and i think the old school rpg formula can still be used in creative ways, i mean look at the new SP game 'The stick of truth' that game is doing well and it's old school rpg as fck. Being mostly an rpg gamer i feel my demographic is being forgotten for the FPS and RTS demographic, all the rpgs seem to be going to handheld systems and consoles don't get them __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

03-17-2014, 04:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	@Dj I am an Rpg gamer i just haven't played some Jrpgs cause i don't have alot of money, and like u mentioned it's mostly Jrpgs keeping the old school formula alive, you mentioned the 'Tales of' games and that's a good exmpl of how not many games have crossover like that and that's why they have a solid fan base because there are not many games like that in the US market. And sadly thats my market, i don't live in japan so all i see is FPS games everywhere overshadowing the few good rpgs the console has, in handheld systems there is alot of successful rpgs they never bother to bring to consoles, why? I like handheld games but i prefer the console experience over it. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

03-17-2014, 04:07 PM	#26 (permalink)
~~butthead aka 216~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies Posts: 1,463	I like the online play of the last few yrs. I get little joy vs a c omputer and prefer the competition of playin others