Wow, even people who admit they don't like video games and seldom play them STILL enjoy DooM.

That game truly is magical.

Also, DooM is how I discovered Slayer. No joke.

i have a crazy theory about that,

I think Rpg games are becoming obsolete, especially old school Rpgs where you have to grind to level up so nowadays other games are adapting and simplifying the lvl up system and using it to add a little Rpg element to their game

For me, it's like they are taking the best features of the Rpg and discarding the rest, you don't have to grind much to lvl up you just follow the story and you level up, i reached Lvl 50 in Mass effect without feeling i did any grinding, however in Fallout i did have to grind a bit just to get to lvl 30

I'd definitely say the grinding is fading away, but it's definitely a good thing. ****, the days I wasted raising my level along with my blood pressure.

We are seeing more and more interest in the mathematics, strategic side of RPG's though. Whereas before many games would auto-assign points for players, today it seems that more and more are giving players that control. I'm not saying it didn't happen before, that's for damn sure, but let me put it this way.... I have chick friends who know that you're supposed to beef up intelligence if you're a wizard. They did not know that five years ago.

@Carpe Mortem

Haha yea i hear what you mean. :p:

Im all for it as well, i like every game where you can Lvl up but i kinda think old school Rpgs are becoming obsolete in consoles, even Rpg console games now are focusing on making the games more like a movie than a game and i don't like that, Epic graphics don't impress me especially considering every next gen game looks equally amazing so instead i rather play a game with good gameplay rather than epic graphics

Personally, one of the last Rpgs that i played on a console that had an old school rpg vibe to it was Persona 4 for the Ps2, Atlus is f*ckin amazing at making old school rpgs with a new twist and i think the old school rpg formula can still be used in creative ways, i mean look at the new SP game 'The stick of truth' that game is doing well and it's old school rpg as f*ck.

Being mostly an rpg gamer i feel my demographic is being forgotten for the FPS and RTS demographic, all the rpgs seem to be going to handheld systems and consoles don't get them

I like the online play of the last few yrs. I get little joy vs a c omputer and prefer the competition of playin others

Likewise, Online play is amazing the only drawback it's how loud and stupid some f*ckin kids are.

some ppl are entertaining when they use a mic but others are just whiny and annoying.

I don't really think you are an rpg gamer. There have been some really great grindy type RPGs that has been released lately. Did you even touch NiNoKuni? I don't know if you have a 3DS but Bravely Default came out recently. They are still cranking out "Tales of" games. The last tales game I got was Tales of Xilia and I can't wait til part 2 comes out soon. It's already out in Japan but being translated for the US market. White Knight Chronicles though that came out a few years ago the second part to it is pretty great also. JRPGs are still being cranked out. It's funny that you mention Persona because I heard that a new one is coming out soon.

LOL you actually listen to people during online play? I always mute it. I don't care about what they have to say.

@Dj

I am an Rpg gamer i just haven't played some Jrpgs cause i don't have alot of money, and like u mentioned it's mostly Jrpgs keeping the old school formula alive, you mentioned the 'Tales of' games and that's a good exmpl of how not many games have crossover like that and that's why they have a solid fan base because there are not many games like that in the US market.

And sadly thats my market, i don't live in japan so all i see is FPS games everywhere overshadowing the few good rpgs the console has, in handheld systems there is alot of successful rpgs they never bother to bring to consoles, why?

I like handheld games but i prefer the console experience over it.

Have you thought about getting a Gamefly subscription? Then you can rent all the good rpgs that are on consoles to your heart's content.

I recently got Animal Crossing in the mail but it's so not my thing. I thought I would be into it since I like Harvest Moon but idk. I'm sending it back for my next game in the q.

RPGs are always worth the money because of how many hours you have to put into playing it but because of that you can also see why they aren't as rampant as FPS games. The amount of hours it takes to complete RPG games imagine the development time that it takes.