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duga 09-12-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1230370)
it's too bloody "linear"

given the new advacements, they could at least have tried a freer movement thing

i didn't like the combat much, back to turn-based, at least XII had a semblance of "real time"

i mean with stuff like "Skyrim" around why do I even want to bother with FF anymore?

Again...X was just as linear. I'm sure they switched back to a turn based system because most people didn't actually like the "real-timeness" of XII. In fact, people still complained that it was too real time in XIII.

I play FF games for the strategy involved. It takes a bit of mastering for each game, and eventually nailing it makes me feel smart. Games like Skyrim are fun but pretty damn easy.

Howard the Duck 09-12-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1230442)
Again...X was just as linear. I'm sure they switched back to a turn based system because most people didn't actually like the "real-timeness" of XII. In fact, people still complained that it was too real time in XIII.

I play FF games for the strategy involved. It takes a bit of mastering for each game, and eventually nailing it makes me feel smart. Games like Skyrim are fun but pretty damn easy.

that's cos you set the difficulty level too low

anyway, the best turn-based strategy I've ever played was Grandia III

but even though the system was good, the story wasn't all that compelling nor were the characters

X I only really liked the puzzles - i didn't think the combat mechanics were much good either

RTSullivan 09-20-2012 08:09 AM

For me I enjoy GTA & Elder Scrolls

I also really miss Ultima Online and Counter Strike.

Wicked Weasel 09-22-2012 01:11 AM

Original Donkey Kong.

Yeah I'm old school. That's how I roll. :D

phoenix17 09-22-2012 02:23 AM

FFVII hands down. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue what they're talking about ;)

Unknown Soldier 09-22-2012 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix17 (Post 1233524)
FFVII hands down. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue what they're talking about ;)

Agreed.

mr dave 09-22-2012 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinnx (Post 1229963)
I was a big fan of Symphonia, joined the forums at the peak of its popularity, somehow signed a contract with Namco, and moderated it. One of the perks was being sent a whole bunch of other Tales games for free.

Seriously this series has almost as many releases as FF in Japan, and is an inch behind its high profile.

There are several new releases on PS3/Wii I need to check out. See if they've advanced it any further.

Combat system for an RPG is unmatched btw.

That's pretty awesome, especially those perks! That also reminds me that I should check out the classic games on the PSN more often.


Going back to the Final Fantasy talk though... would FF7 really be considered the best if it hadn't gone 3d and was presented the same as all the previous ones?

duga 09-22-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1233573)
Going back to the Final Fantasy talk though... would FF7 really be considered the best if it hadn't gone 3d and was presented the same as all the previous ones?

That's what I was talking about earlier... VII is basically a rehash of VI in 3d. I like VI's story much more. In fact, I would prefer VI to be remade over VII.

Rjinn 09-22-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 1233573)
That's pretty awesome, especially those perks! That also reminds me that I should check out the classic games on the PSN more often.


Going back to the Final Fantasy talk though... would FF7 really be considered the best if it hadn't gone 3d and was presented the same as all the previous ones?

I really do think the reason it got so much credit was because of how it hit gamers with revolutionary graphics. That alone gave the FF series its fame.

The only other reason I see were the distinctive stylish characters.

razielalex 09-29-2012 06:27 PM

Darksiders 2

IS just awsome to play Death

mythsofmetal 11-25-2012 04:43 AM

For RPG's I'd go with TES: Skyrim.

For RTS I'd go with Rome: Total War, maybe Total War: Rome II once it comes out, though C&C is high up there.

For FPS Halo 4.

For racing I'd probably go with Burnout Revenge.

For action-adventure either Assassins Creed 2, or AC: Brotherhood.

For 3PS I'd go with Gears of War 2 or 3.

Platformer would be Super Mario World.


For survival horror, probably one of the Dead Rising games. Maybe one of the Dead Space games.


I can't pick for music games, it'd probably be something like a mix of Rock Band 2, for the on disc setlist, multiplayer, world tour, with Guitar Hero 3's hitbox sizes, with Rock Band 3's DLC, pro modes/instruments, with Rocksmith's pro/real guitar chart layout, and ability to use any guitar with 1/4 inch output.




Overall I'd have to go with Halo 4.

midnight rain 12-01-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mythsofmetal (Post 1253753)
For RPG's I'd go with TES: Skyrim.

For RTS I'd go with Rome: Total War, maybe Total War: Rome II once it comes out, though C&C is high up there.

For FPS Halo 4.

For racing I'd probably go with Burnout Revenge.

For action-adventure either Assassins Creed 2, or AC: Brotherhood.

For 3PS I'd go with Gears of War 2 or 3.

Platformer would be Super Mario World.


For survival horror, probably one of the Dead Rising games. Maybe one of the Dead Space games.


I can't pick for music games, it'd probably be something like a mix of Rock Band 2, for the on disc setlist, multiplayer, world tour, with Guitar Hero 3's hitbox sizes, with Rock Band 3's DLC, pro modes/instruments, with Rocksmith's pro/real guitar chart layout, and ability to use any guitar with 1/4 inch output.




Overall I'd have to go with Halo 4.

You have to be kidding me. Halo 4 is a rehash of Reach, which was a rehash of 3, which was a rehash of 2, which was a rehash of CE, the only fresh innovative game in the series :laughing:

Actually, I take that back, 2 deserves credit for basically making Xbox Live what it is. Every other game in the series has been bombastic, Michael Bay type firefights over and over again ad nauseam. That's my main gripe with the FPS genre as a whole. If it doesn't introduce some sort of open world or RPG elements (a la Borderlands or Fallout), it is simply another generic corridor shooter. Those got old long ago, unless they manage to excel in another category, like Bioshock did with it's story.

LoathsomePete 12-02-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1256345)
You have to be kidding me. Halo 4 is a rehash of Reach, which was a rehash of 3, which was a rehash of 2, which was a rehash of CE, the only fresh innovative game in the series :laughing:

Actually, I take that back, 2 deserves credit for basically making Xbox Live what it is. Every other game in the series has been bombastic, Michael Bay type firefights over and over again ad nauseam. That's my main gripe with the FPS genre as a whole. If it doesn't introduce some sort of open world or RPG elements (a la Borderlands or Fallout), it is simply another generic corridor shooter. Those got old long ago, unless they manage to excel in another category, like Bioshock did with it's story.

I definitely agree with your opinion, although I don't really thinking saying "basically making Xbox Live what it is." is a compliment. I mean it's a financial success, but holy shit it has to have the single worst user base of all time. Nothing like having a 14 year old tell me all the foul things he's done to my mother, and while I know the option to mute mics is available, it really doesn't actually solve the problem.

Fat, Ugly or Slutty

I know not everybody on Xbox Live are like the people from that website, but there are really no repercussions for the harassment people experience (usually women) while they try to game. It makes me curious how many women actually cancel their Xbox Live membership, and there's no reason for Microsoft not to do something about it.

I dunno, I'm pretty biased against multiplayer because it seems like only a few games come around each year that excel in the story department. I can't help but notice this shift started around the point when multiplayer started to get really popular, like around 2004-2005 with the rise of Xbox Live.

What bugs me the most is I wonder how many of these people who sexually harass women are under the age of 18, as children and teenagers are more likely to have a console. I mean what would their parents think if they found out their 13 year old messaged a female player that he was going to rape her? Dig deep enough on that website and you'll find those examples, and not only the horrible implications of an emerging generation of misogynistic men, and this just seems to be completely ass backwards. I know it's the anonymity that makes people be complete assholes online, but the implications that this could have on the future is kind of frightening.

/preach

I agree, his list is mostly shit.

midnight rain 12-02-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1256687)
I definitely agree with your opinion, although I don't really thinking saying "basically making Xbox Live what it is." is a compliment. I mean it's a financial success, but holy shit it has to have the single worst user base of all time. Nothing like having a 14 year old tell me all the foul things he's done to my mother, and while I know the option to mute mics is available, it really doesn't actually solve the problem.

Fat, Ugly or Slutty

I know not everybody on Xbox Live are like the people from that website, but there are really no repercussions for the harassment people experience (usually women) while they try to game. It makes me curious how many women actually cancel their Xbox Live membership, and there's no reason for Microsoft not to do something about it.

I dunno, I'm pretty biased against multiplayer because it seems like only a few games come around each year that excel in the story department. I can't help but notice this shift started around the point when multiplayer started to get really popular, like around 2004-2005 with the rise of Xbox Live.

What bugs me the most is I wonder how many of these people who sexually harass women are under the age of 18, as children and teenagers are more likely to have a console. I mean what would their parents think if they found out their 13 year old messaged a female player that he was going to rape her? Dig deep enough on that website and you'll find those examples, and not only the horrible implications of an emerging generation of misogynistic men, and this just seems to be completely ass backwards. I know it's the anonymity that makes people be complete assholes online, but the implications that this could have on the future is kind of frightening.

/preach

I agree, his list is mostly shit.

I guess I should've said "for better or for worse, Halo 2 has made Xbox live what it is". And I personally would go with worse also.

As for console online multiplayer, I don't touch it unless I'm playing with friends and I hate the shift towards multiplayer-centric content as well. It's making me seriously consider getting a gaming PC and ditching consoles altogether, because with online gaming came day one DLC and all that other nonsense.

LoathsomePete 12-02-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1256690)
I guess I should've said "for better or for worse, Halo 2 has made Xbox live what it is". And I personally would go with worse also.

As for console online multiplayer, I don't touch it unless I'm playing with friends and I hate the shift towards multiplayer-centric content as well. It's making me seriously consider getting a gaming PC and ditching consoles altogether, because with online gaming came day one DLC and all that other nonsense.

Gotcha, sorry if it felt like I was going off there, it's a subject that's been on my mind for awhile but with nobody to really share it with.

midnight rain 12-02-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1256702)
Gotcha, sorry if it felt like I was going off there, it's a subject that's been on my mind for awhile but with nobody to really share it with.

No I completely agree, your post was like music to my ears.

FrankBeardjr 12-02-2012 09:37 PM

Skyrim hands down.

Rjinn 12-03-2012 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankBeardjr (Post 1256712)
Skyrim hands down.

So much fuss over that game. To be honest it wasn't a striking game aesthetically neither was the cover information (since I don't know what the hell it's about). People just pretty much just chanted Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim!! Awersum!!!!1

I decided to buy GTA 4 instead.

Cuthbert 12-04-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1256756)
So much fuss over that game. To be honest it wasn't a striking game aesthetically neither was the cover information (since I don't know what the hell it's about). People just pretty much just chanted Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim!! Awersum!!!!1

I decided to buy GTA 4 instead.

What do you think of it?

I don't like it that much but I'm only 10% into the game. Still on the first island.

Rjinn 12-04-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end (Post 1257290)
What do you think of it?

I don't like it that much but I'm only 10% into the game. Still on the first island.

The first part (well 10%) is quite generic, but you got to be patient for the build. The slow, draggy introduction will take a turn into an action packed, suspenseful, and twisted story. You also meet some interesting people. Gameplay will become a lot more fun as the story goes.

I'm only 25% but that's because I've been doing all the side quests.

Key 12-04-2012 07:26 AM

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/8...raft_large.png

Nuff said.

Yac 12-04-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1257294)
The first part (well 10%) is quite generic, but you got to be patient for the build. The slow, draggy introduction will take a turn into an action packed, suspenseful, and twisted story. You also meet some interesting people. Gameplay will become a lot more fun as the story goes.

I'm only 25% but that's because I've been doing all the side quests.

Gta4 has a great story that takes some time to develop. Very memorable characters (like Brucie), plot twists, great chase and action scenes - it has all the elements of a great tv series. I finished it a while ago but am looking to doing it again - with the Icenhancer mod it looks like it's a brand new game.

midnight rain 12-04-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1256756)
So much fuss over that game. To be honest it wasn't a striking game aesthetically neither was the cover information (since I don't know what the hell it's about). People just pretty much just chanted Skyrim Skyrim Skyrim!! Awersum!!!!1

I decided to buy GTA 4 instead.

lol well done. GTA 4 was one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming, while Skyrim was one of my most memorable gaming experiences ever

The Batlord 12-05-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1257617)
lol well done. GTA 4 was one of the biggest letdowns in the history of gaming, while Skyrim was one of my most memorable gaming experiences ever

Someone after my own heart. Much smaller sandbox, you can't buy any property or have turf, no aircraft, ****ty clothes, no delightfully ridiculous missions, and the internet just gets old after a while. Pass.

mythsofmetal 12-10-2012 01:02 PM

I just started playing Fallout 3 for the first time. I downloaded it off XBL a few weeks ago, and I have to say I like it more than Skyrim. So Fallout 3 takes first place for my favourite RPG as of now.

Moody 12-10-2012 02:42 PM

Naruto ultimate ninja storm 2 on ps3

Scarlett O'Hara 12-11-2012 06:34 PM

I'm so excited, for Christmas I'm getting a new computer and Fallout 3 and New Vegas. CANNOT wait!

Sparky 12-11-2012 06:36 PM

i've played both of those games like 150 hours each. You should get skyrim too if you like the new fallouts

Scarlett O'Hara 12-11-2012 06:44 PM

Wow good stuff! Oh baby I'm way ahead of you, I'm saving my coins and buying it the minute I am having a break from study. :)

midnight rain 12-11-2012 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1261512)
i've played both of those games like 150 hours each. You should get skyrim too if you like the new fallouts

I second Skyrim, Bethesda just keeps making better and better games. Plus, I like my swords and crossbows over my guns. :)

Sparky 12-11-2012 06:49 PM

i think a fallout with the skyrim engine would be crazy sick. They've probably done at least some initial design on it

midnight rain 12-11-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1261533)
i think a fallout with the skyrim engine would be crazy sick. They've probably done at least some initial design on it

Oh yeah I'm sure they have, just as long as they keep the VATS system though, that was one of my favorite aspects of it.

Still prefer Elder Scrolls as a series, but they are both 10/10 series

arketah 12-20-2012 11:50 PM

For me Mario and Cadillacs And Dinosaurs are the best game of all time.

gandhara 12-29-2012 11:57 AM

Balloon Fight is the best by far lol, love that game

Insane Guest 12-29-2012 01:04 PM

Halo 3 still takes it's rightful place in being the best thing ever created. While games like Fallout (which take a dump on Skyrim anyday) take hundreds of hours, so much exploration, and so much to be found, I just can't find myself to do it all over again. Halo 3 campaign was so much fun, alone or with three other people online. I played when multiplayer in general was at it's peak. Remember SOCIAL Slayer? When people used their mics to just chat up the other players, and not just piss you off, nowadays, less than 2 people with mics in every damn lobby! Custom games was also a whole new deal, I played well over 1,000 games in each playlist (Social, Ranked, Custon), but by far Halo 3 Custom Games will be one of the best lobbies ever, there was never a shortage of people, no one kicked you if you joined randomly, the more the better. Classic gametypes, Alpha Zombie, Toilet, Races, Micheal Jackson, Cops and Robbers, it makes me sad just thinking about the fun once had. **** Halo 4, although I knew I would end up buying it just like every other Halo let down after 3.

The Batlord 01-02-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lone Misfit (Post 1269084)
Halo 3 still takes it's rightful place in being the best thing ever created.

Halo 3? It was easily the worst Halo yet at the time. The first one was just such a perfect combo of solid gameplay, sci fi awesomeness, and great levels that made such an impression when I first played it that I don't think any of the other ones will ever have the same impact. It was just the perfect game at the perfect time.

Dr_Rez 01-02-2013 11:05 AM

Halo 3 was the worst Halo by FAR.

wiggums 01-02-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1270279)
Halo 3? It was easily the worst Halo yet at the time. The first one was just such a perfect combo of solid gameplay, sci fi awesomeness, and great levels that made such an impression when I first played it that I don't think any of the other ones will ever have the same impact. It was just the perfect game at the perfect time.

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez (Post 1270281)
Halo 3 was the worst Halo by FAR.

You guys be trollin'

Halo 3 supported huge custom communities by itself for years on end. That game change Halo, and it all went downhill after.

midnight rain 01-02-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wiggums (Post 1270436)
You guys be trollin'

Halo 3 supported huge custom communities by itself for years on end. That game change Halo, and it all went downhill after.

That game did nothing that Halo 2 hadn't already done. At least Reach gets credit for treading new ground.

If I were to rank the series it'd go:

CE > 2 > Reach > 3

Haven't played enough of 4 to give an opinion but it seems liike more of the same. I'm pretty bored of the series at this point.

ManWithNoName 01-02-2013 09:51 PM

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

007 Goldeneye (N64)


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