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Freebase Dali 03-12-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1164343)
It was indeed. Lots of stuff happened and it left me really excited for the season finale, which looks to be pretty intense. Plus, T Dog was actually in a bunch of scenes for once.

Everything except for that glaring inconsistency that I have no idea how they're going to explain away... and if they just don't, then Imma frown real hard.

Janszoon 03-12-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1164589)
Everything except for that glaring inconsistency that I have no idea how they're going to explain away... and if they just don't, then Imma frown real hard.

Which glaring inconsistency?

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Do you mean the people turning into zombies without being bitten? I think that's a deliberate plot development, not a mistake. They introduced the concept a couple episodes with those two dead cops.

Freebase Dali 03-12-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1164619)
Which glaring inconsistency?

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Do you mean the people turning into zombies without being bitten? I think that's a deliberate plot development, not a mistake. They introduced the concept a couple episodes with those two dead cops.

Ohhh... I just figured they missed something. Well sh*t. I still wonder how that's gonna be explainable.

someonecompletelyrandom 03-12-2012 09:23 PM

I'm actually in awe of what amazing television that was. Hell, what amazing film making it was period.

Janszoon 03-12-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1164623)
Ohhh... I just figured they missed something. Well sh*t. I still wonder how that's gonna be explainable.

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Mutation, I'd think. The bubonic plague went from being to transmitted via flea bite to being airborne, maybe the zombie plague did the same thing.

Freebase Dali 03-12-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1164697)
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Mutation, I'd think. The bubonic plague went from being to transmitted via flea bite to being airborne, maybe the zombie plague did the same thing.

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So then there's two risks... being bitten/scratched, or just breathing? I'm wondering how they're gonna play that. If the plague is airborne, then it has to have affected some of our main characters, and they're all going to die. But if somehow the plague only makes you a zombie after you've died, while it laid dormant in your system until then, then it's really not so consequential in the larger scheme of the show, except that now, if someone dies from anything at all, they need to get re-killed. Not much of a game changer, really, except in the case of someone wanting to die even less, because they know they'd become a zombie.
I dunno.
Well, hopefully they do have somewhere they're going with this. I just can't see how it'd add anything to the show at this point.
I'm just hoping it doesn't turn out to be some crap they did for effect.

NSW 03-12-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1164619)
Which glaring inconsistency?

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Do you mean the people turning into zombies without being bitten? I think that's a deliberate plot development, not a mistake. They introduced the concept a couple episodes with those two dead cops.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1164623)
Ohhh... I just figured they missed something. Well sh*t. I still wonder how that's gonna be explainable.

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Depending on what zombie "lore" you're going by, there doesn't always have to be a bite or scratch. In all of the original "...of the Dead" movies, corpses reanimate no matter what the cause of death was, and there are other examples which I can't recall right now. Usually they explain it as a virus or something like that, and I think even in the original "Night of the Living Dead" they mentioned something about radiation from Venus. It will be interesting though, to see how they will explain it in this story.

Freebase Dali 03-12-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife (Post 1164712)
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Depending on what zombie "lore" you're going by, there doesn't always have to be a bite or scratch. In all of the original "...of the Dead" movies, corpses reanimate no matter what the cause of death was, and there are other examples which I can't recall right now. Usually they explain it as a virus or something like that, and I think even in the original "Night of the Living Dead" they mentioned something about radiation from Venus. It will be interesting though, to see how they will explain it in this story.

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Like I just replied to Jans, it wouldn't be a game-changer. If the group realizes that (which should happen, since two folks just reanimated after being killed by other-than-zombie means), then they'd simply head-cap any regular ol' human they tried to kill.
We know that in the larger scope of things, the enemy is the dead, but these are all dead from the very nature of the zombie, which spreads the plague. If the disease is transmitted via bodily fluids PLUS airborne, then either everyone's f*cked, or people just need to do what they've been doing, and try not to die, which was the original agenda anyway.

I'm just wondering what the possible benefit could be to adding an infection method that only takes place after you're already dead. If it's just for the purpose of introducing a different lore, then I don't think that's going to bode well for the show.


someonecompletelyrandom 03-12-2012 11:05 PM

It's taking that from the original comic books. It does add a lot of extra elements, in my opinion. In addition to people bitten, now everyone who dies is affected – this is completely apocalyptic for the human race. If people were to begin trying to repopulate and slowly wipe out the undead threat, they'd always have to worry about the reanimation of those who have passed on, even naturally. A body can't be left alone as a body, the brain stem must be destroyed or they're coming back. Basically, while it may not change the entire course of the show, it gives death that much more of a bite. You may not live twice, but you'll have to be killed twice.

NSW 03-12-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1164716)
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Like I just replied to Jans, it wouldn't be a game-changer. If the group realizes that (which should happen, since two folks just reanimated after being killed by other-than-zombie means), then they'd simply head-cap any regular ol' human they tried to kill.
We know that in the larger scope of things, the enemy is the dead, but these are all dead from the very nature of the zombie, which spreads the plague. If the disease is transmitted via bodily fluids PLUS airborne, then either everyone's f*cked, or people just need to do what they've been doing, and try not to die, which was the original agenda anyway.

I'm just wondering what the possible benefit could be to adding an infection method that only takes place after you're already dead. If it's just for the purpose of introducing a different lore, then I don't think that's going to bode well for the show.


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Yeah, I noticed your reply after I'd already replied. All these hidden posts are doing my head in!

I don't think it'll be a game changer, as far as the full scope of the story, and I don't know that there is even a point to them going that direction, other than just choosing to go with that version of zombie lore for no good reason. I like it just because NotLD is my fave, but also because it means they will be more aware of the human threat to their lives, not just the zombie one. It also made me wonder about a few past things, such as: Would Hershel's daughter have tried to commit suicide the way she did if she knew she'd come back as a zombie? I should hope not.

I think I see what you mean though, now that I'm re-reading your post. If they just go around popping everyone (living or dead) in the head, it doesn't really make for good action or story all the time.

I'm hoping that what little they learned at the CDC might become relevant later on in the story, and maybe give some insight as to what causes it, or perhaps even a cure.

Freebase Dali 03-12-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by These guys (Post 1164722)
It's taking that from the original comic books. It does add a lot of extra elements, in my opinion. In addition to people bitten, now everyone who dies is affected – this is completely apocalyptic for the human race. If people were to begin trying to repopulate and slowly wipe out the undead threat, they'd always have to worry about the reanimation of those who have passed on, even naturally. A body can't be left alone as a body, the brain stem must be destroyed or they're coming back. Basically, while it may not change the entire course of the show, it gives death that much more of a bite. You may not live twice, but you'll have to be killed twice.

That makes the most sense to me, and I considered that, but I just didn't think it would be that big of a contributor to the show in the long run. I'd accept that as a plot thickener, provided they could do something potent enough with it to have introduced the concept at all. I guess that much will remain to be seen.

Janszoon 03-13-2012 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by These guys (Post 1164722)
It's taking that from the original comic books. It does add a lot of extra elements, in my opinion. In addition to people bitten, now everyone who dies is affected – this is completely apocalyptic for the human race. If people were to begin trying to repopulate and slowly wipe out the undead threat, they'd always have to worry about the reanimation of those who have passed on, even naturally. A body can't be left alone as a body, the brain stem must be destroyed or they're coming back. Basically, while it may not change the entire course of the show, it gives death that much more of a bite. You may not live twice, but you'll have to be killed twice.

Yeah, I think it definitely makes for more of a threat. Before, they could theoretically move to an island with no zombies on it and live out the rest of their lives in peace. Now there's always a threat no matter where they go, one that can never be fully contained. It means humanity needs a cure, they can't simply go into hiding and wait it out until all the zombies rot away.

Unknown Soldier 03-13-2012 06:11 AM

I'm dying to join in this thread! But can't as I haven't seen season 2 and don't want to see any spoilers.:o:

NSW 03-18-2012 08:55 PM

AAAHHHHHHH....tonight's episode....oh my gawd. No words. I can barely wrap my head around how spectacular it was!

There was lots of yelling and fist pumping when
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Michonne showed up and saved Andrea...and then the prison scene at the very end...


I'm too excited. And I don't know if y'all watch The Talking Dead, but they revealed that
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Danai Gurira is going to play Michonne in the next season. Completely psyched.

Janszoon 03-18-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife (Post 1166565)
AAAHHHHHHH....tonight's episode....oh my gawd. No words. I can barely wrap my head around how spectacular it was!

There was lots of yelling and fist pumping when
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Michonne showed up and saved Andrea...and then the prison scene at the very end...


I'm too excited. And I don't know if y'all watch The Talking Dead, but they revealed that Danai Gurira is going to play Michonne in the next season. Completely psyched.

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Having not read the comics I'm not familiar with Michonne and that part just seemed incredibly cheesy to me. Maybe once I get to know the character, it will seem less so.

Honestly I was mildly disappointed by this episode, I guess mostly because I was really hoping Merle would show up at the end. Also, I'm really getting to the point with Lori where I just want to see her get eaten by zombies.

All of that said, the first half hour was definitely some quality zombie shoot 'em up action and I am certainly looking forward to season 3.

NSW 03-18-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1166567)
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Having not read the comics I'm not familiar with Michonne and that part just seemed incredibly cheesy to me. Maybe once I get to know the character, it will seem less so.

Honestly I was mildly disappointed by this episode, I guess mostly because I was really hoping Merle would show up at the end. Also, I'm really getting to the point with Lori where I just want to see her get eaten by zombies.

All of that said, the first half hour was definitely some quality zombie shoot 'em up action and I am certainly looking forward to season 3.

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I get that about Michonne. Having read the comics I was jumping up and down screaming when she appeared. She is a bad ass woman.

And speaking of bad asses, how about the Herschel? He was one zombie killing mutha wasn't he? Loved that part.

Lori actually didn't bother me as much in this episode as she usually does. I was however, a little disappointed in T-Dog. I really like his character alot, but wasn't impressed when he decided he was going to flee without regroup with the rest of the gang. Seemed the opposite of the guy who felt bad about leaving Merle locked up on the roof of a building. :/

Janszoon 03-18-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nonsubmissivewife (Post 1166576)
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I get that about Michonne. Having read the comics I was jumping up and down screaming when she appeared. She is a bad ass woman.

And speaking of bad asses, how about the Herschel? He was one zombie killing mutha wasn't he? Loved that part.

Lori actually didn't bother me as much in this episode as she usually does. I was however, a little disappointed in T-Dog. I really like his character alot, but wasn't impressed when he decided he was going to flee without regroup with the rest of the gang. Seemed the opposite of the guy who felt bad about leaving Merle locked up on the roof of a building. :/

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Definitely agree about Herschel. He was a pretty damn good shot with that shotgun. Going into the episode, the one prediction I made was that he was going to die so I pretty shocked that he made it out alive.

Thebeat 03-20-2012 02:18 PM

First season is best for me but new season like a bull**** it doesn't exciting me anymore

FRED HALE SR. 03-20-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thebeat (Post 1167272)
First season is best for me but new season like a bull**** it doesn't exciting me anymore

I think both seasons were very good television. I can;t comprehend someone liking season one and not enjoying season 2 at least somewhat. I can't believe i have to wait till fall to view it again. Good thing Mad Men is coming back on.

Guybrush 03-20-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thebeat (Post 1167272)
First season is best for me but new season like a bull**** it doesn't exciting me anymore

The second season starts off real slow (imo), but picks end gets very exciting eventually.

NSW 03-20-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1167273)
I think both seasons were very good television. I can;t comprehend someone liking season one and not enjoying season 2 at least somewhat. I can't believe i have to wait till fall to view it again. Good thing Game of Thrones is coming back on.

Fixed! :D

Unknown Soldier 05-14-2012 06:31 AM

Season Two finally on normal British television tonight (I don't have Satellite or cable channels, so therefore had to wait) Can't wait to watch it as I really enjoyed the first season.

Unknown Soldier 05-14-2012 05:44 PM

Since the previous post, have now just seen episode 1 of season 2 and it was so good that I'm now re-hooked on the series again:D

LoathsomePete 05-14-2012 06:46 PM

Don't be surprised if your enthusiasm wanes a little bit during the next 5 to 6 episodes.

Unknown Soldier 05-22-2012 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1189268)
Don't be surprised if your enthusiasm wanes a little bit during the next 5 to 6 episodes.

Just watched episode 2 last night and another great episode, for the first time Daryl has really started to chill out more and loved the ending with Shane and Otis barricaded in the school. Roll on epidode 3.

Janszoon 05-22-2012 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1191452)
Just watched episode 2 last night and another great episode, for the first time Daryl has really started to chill out more and loved the ending with Shane and Otis barricaded in the school. Roll on epidode 3.

Oh man, the one you just watched and the next one you're going to watch are great episodes.

Unknown Soldier 05-22-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1191456)
Oh man, the one you just watched and the next one you're going to watch are great episodes.

The problem is that I gotta wait till next Monday, but it does make boring Mondays exciting.

duga 05-22-2012 10:48 AM

I thought Season 2 was actually pretty good...I was happy the characters had a little breathing room. They were more able to develop some of the neurosis within the group. I think the season ended on a pretty crazy note...I can't wait for season 3.

Unknown Soldier 05-28-2012 04:19 PM

Episode 3 was great loved every bit of it, that scene with the hanging zombie was great, but I wished they'd dragged out the part with Shane and Otis a bit longer in the school (as these type of locations are real video game territory:)) Was slightly disappointed though when Shane got back without Otis, but of course I didn't know what happened and assumed Shane was telling the truth. But then what an ending when Shane decided to shower and the scratches on his head were revealed, I instantly thought maybe it was some kind of zombie related scratch and was really shocked when I saw what really happened and how he sacrificed Otis so he could live (and also the boy I'm guessing) Fantastic end never saw it coming at all, its always great when a series or novel can always deliver the unexpected.

BTW, I'd hate to live in Georgia, everybody seems to be dripping with sweat all day long.:D

someonecompletelyrandom 05-29-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1193548)
BTW, I'd hate to live in Georgia, everybody seems to be dripping with sweat all day long.:D

Try Texas :(

NSW 05-29-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever-a-Cone (Post 1193943)
Try Texas :(

No joke. :(

Unknown Soldier 05-30-2012 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever-a-Cone (Post 1193943)
Try Texas :(

Yep I know the whole of the southern USA has high humidity and very hot temperatures in summer. I've not been but I've been to some Latin American countries that have the same high humidity levels.

LoathsomePete 05-31-2012 05:09 PM

If there's one thing going for Nevada it's that while it's hot as balls in the summer, once you get into some shade with a fan you are nice and cool.

Speaking of The Walking Dead though, has anyone tried the cel-shaded video game that apparently came out last month?

Unknown Soldier 06-01-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1194764)
If there's one thing going for Nevada it's that while it's hot as balls in the summer, once you get into some shade with a fan you are nice and cool.

Speaking of The Walking Dead though, has anyone tried the cel-shaded video game that apparently came out last month?

I didn't know there was a game and saw on IGN it was getting 8.5 which for me is always one of those borderline scores. I rarely tend to buy games that get less than 9, but now and a again you do get some good games that have an 8+ score.

someonecompletelyrandom 06-02-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1194984)
I didn't know there was a game and saw on IGN it was getting 8.5 which for me is always one of those borderline scores. I rarely tend to buy games that get less than 9, but now and a again you do get some good games that have an 8+ score.

That's a ridiculously high standard. It only goes up to 10!

LoathsomePete 06-02-2012 09:44 AM

Yeah video game review scores have always perplexed me. Something that only gets an 8/10 is like if a movie only gets 2 stars. I can understand the higher investment when it comes to video games so you want to know what you're getting, but I've played plenty of games that scored in the lower brackets that I loved more than say Gears of War that is always in the 9-10 range.

Unknown Soldier 06-02-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever-a-Cone (Post 1195412)
That's a ridiculously high standard. It only goes up to 10!

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1195435)
Yeah video game review scores have always perplexed me. Something that only gets an 8/10 is like if a movie only gets 2 stars. I can understand the higher investment when it comes to video games so you want to know what you're getting, but I've played plenty of games that scored in the lower brackets that I loved more than say Gears of War that is always in the 9-10 range.

Thats the difference, games are expensive and to a degree are quite a bit less subjective than a movie, regardless of the subject in the game most players look for similiar qualities in a game. Therefore if independent game reviewers are negative about a game, its not usually that great in general, a film on the other hand doesn't quite fall into the same parameters.

Unknown Soldier 06-05-2012 01:57 PM

Watched episode 4 last night and another good episode despite there only being one zombie, the bloated one down the well. There was some good stuff about the episode as it focused more on character development, which I know some on here have criticized, but I enjoyed it. I don't think they handled the sex/romantic scenes that well but oh well, I don't watch it for romantic interludes.

One interesting thought I had, is that Rick wants to stay where they are, whilst their God fearing host doesn't want any outsiders or guns on his ranch. I'm guessing they'll respect his wishes and either move along or stay their under his rules. I'm guessing though that if this was really real life, they might just murder him and stay there anyway as its a great base, despite having one well less now.:D

the_Koolaid_Guy 06-09-2012 09:42 PM

I thought the show was good for what it is- a representation of what would most likely happen to people if these events were really to happen. It's not just a zombie movie cut into multiple episodes/seasons- it's legitimately a drama.

Unknown Soldier 06-11-2012 04:49 PM

Episode 5 and this show is just so good. I was thinking that the search for the girl was getting so dragged out....but what an episode and without a doubt Daryl is my favourite character and its was great to see his resident redneck brother Merle back in the show (in vision sequence) Another great ending with the barn sequence.......Now I'm guessing that these trapped zombies are caught on regular intervals and used to supplement the food supply, that's just a guess but the first one that came to mind. I'm sure next week will reveal this, unless someone spoils it for me and tells me on here.


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