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Old 05-15-2011, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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maybe I'm not understanding the fourth wall thing.

Could you explain?

I thought it just means that the character is talking to the audience or thinking out loud so that the audience could hear but the fellow characters around that person can't hear it.
Essentially, yes. But the forth wall is only broken if the character actually speaks to the audience, or if he breaks character or mentions that what the audience is seeing is staged. If he's simply thinking out loud or something, suspension of disbelief isn't comprised and the wall isn't broken.

It's just a funny phrase too, sounds so epic. XD
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yeah there's more than one way to do it. You can do it by speaking directly to the audience or, like Conan said, break character or mention that something is staged.

A couple paraphrased examples (that I couldn't find on youtube):

Boston Legal - A character makes a passing remark to another character: "Hey, where have you been? I haven't seen you at all this episode."

Flight of the Conchords - Murray: "Why are you always doing that, Jemaine? You're always making these smart alec comments."
Jemaine: "I think that if someone were to watch this they would appreciate my dry sense of humour and find it funny."
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I used to love in the Roadrunner cartoons when Wile E. Coyote would look straight at the viewer, usually while falling from a great height after another plan has failed...



At about 15 seconds in, creases me up every time.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Essentially, yes. But the forth wall is only broken if the character actually speaks to the audience, or if he breaks character or mentions that what the audience is seeing is staged. If he's simply thinking out loud or something, suspension of disbelief isn't comprised and the wall isn't broken.

It's just a funny phrase too, sounds so epic. XD
Ah okay, thanks for the explanation and clearing up the differences.
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It isn't really comedic, but I enjoyed the final scene of Alejandro Jadorowsky's Holy Mountain, in which he breaks the fourth wall. It works pretty well with the theme, and the fact that the ending completely jumps out of nowhere.
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Not related to movie

but there was a issue of the flash comics where he ends up in our world and has to talk to the writers of his comic about how to get back home. It was trippy as ****.
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I love this scene:



Very Alfie-esque, ergo cool.

Just a shame the rest of the movie goes sharply downhill afterwards...
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Worst example:

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Worst example:

Wow. He's just saying random shit. Plus the jacket and boots are horrible.
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I love this scene:



Very Alfie-esque, ergo cool.

Just a shame the rest of the movie goes sharply downhill afterwards...
lol I agree!

I loved his attitude towards teaching kids chess and then it just seems like the rest of the movie doesn't relate too much to the intro scene.
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