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Old 03-21-2011, 05:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I fought a lot when I was his age. Schools are so paranoid about fallout from situations like this that they like to punish anyone and anyone involved to make an example. Fact is, if they looked at it on a case by case basis, they might actually be able to see that this kid had no other choice. But that would involve them actually doing their job and sticking up for one of their students, I don't see that happening, ever.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I fought a lot when I was his age. Schools are so paranoid about fallout from situations like this that they like to punish anyone and anyone involved to make an example. Fact is, if they looked at it on a case by case basis, they might actually be able to see that this kid had no other choice. But that would involve them actually doing their job and sticking up for one of their students, I don't see that happening, ever.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I fought a lot when I was his age. Schools are so paranoid about fallout from situations like this that they like to punish anyone and anyone involved to make an example. Fact is, if they looked at it on a case by case basis, they might actually be able to see that this kid had no other choice. But that would involve them actually doing their job and sticking up for one of their students, I don't see that happening, ever.
I think you're right. Punish everyone involved regardless. Whether one kid was defending himself against an aggressor or not, it doesn't really seem to matter. If anything, I would say that teachwers often get it wrong when discplining kids in these kinds of situations.

When I was in school and about 16 years old, there was one handicapped guy who had also attended my primary school and one guy a year or two below me who used to score points with his friends by bullying him or shoving him around, and obviously he would never defend himself. I saw him doing it one day and shoved him against a wall, infront of all of his friends, and had a quiet word with him and personally never saw him do it again.

However, whos really gonna end up in more trouble if a teacher sees me do that? We would either both get the same punishment or, more likely, I'd get done for that just for doing something that I didnt see them doing, which was trying to help this kid out.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I fought a lot when I was his age. Schools are so paranoid about fallout from situations like this that they like to punish anyone and anyone involved to make an example. Fact is, if they looked at it on a case by case basis, they might actually be able to see that this kid had no other choice. But that would involve them actually doing their job and sticking up for one of their students, I don't see that happening, ever.
Exactly. A lot of schools see themselves as a sort of business and that there can't be any hints of favouritism, which is how defending a student, no matter what the situation, would be seen.

Here, there's a problem with guns and other weapons in high schools (mostly schools that are located in poorer or more gang-ridden neighbourhoods), and there are zero-tolerance policies at those schools towards bringing weapons onto school property, but the schools themselves are doing jack-shit to enforce those rules. Instead, they punish everyone who MIGHT have come into contact with a weapon at school.

I'm from a more well-off neighbourhood in Toronto so I never had to deal with weapons in high school, but I did have problems with fighting a few times and was punished for it, rightly so. I don't blame this kid for standing up for himself. He did the right thing.
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Back at school I got put in isolation for beating up a kid that threw a bottle at me, he was on crutches but..meh he was one of those nobs that didnt actually need crutches. He got suspended or isolated as well, I know he got worse punsihment than me though. I think they thought it was racially motivated against me lol.

This is crazy though, I saw that video. Well done to the fat kid, it was ****in awesome what he did man. He shouldn't get in trouble for it, he's sticking up for himself. That's life - you've gotta fight your own battles. And here they are punishing that and encouraging the whole "grit your teeth and take it" approach. That's lame.
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