Exploitation Cinema

Zarko · 01-04-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalow

But the general public has awful taste in film just like they have awful taste in music. It's incredibly difficult for a film with this demographic in mind to not be awful.

Sure, they want it to appeal to others because they want to make money. And the majority of directors working in Hollywood are, like I said, only tangentially involved in the creation of the film. They are usually hired by a studio-head (who usually retains strict final-cut authority over a film) to direct a script selected by a studio-head with actors selected by a studio-head to be edited by an editor selected by a studio-head and the primary concern throughout all of this is $$$. This is not conducive to good filmmaking.

Maybe you could define the context then?

I am about to head out so I won't go into any great detail at the moment.

Though, to be fair, I have only actually watched a few film that I consider to be arthouse. For example, I don't know if this is the type of film you are referring to, but I don't consider a director like Jean-Luc Godard to be arthouse. Tarkovsky - Not arthouse. Kubrick, Lynch, Fellini - Not arthouse. Might not be everyone's interpretation of the word, but it works for me (Though it often leads to discussions such as these). Though I still believe a lot of these movies were made to trasport ideas between the director audience in hope that it engages them to the point of actually enjoying the film.

Either way, apologies for the miscommunication.

~~bungalow~~ · 01-04-2010, 09:01 PM

Well I'm certainly confused about your definition of arthouse film. Maybe I'll find out some other time.

Zarko · 01-04-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalow

Well I'm certainly confused about your definition of arthouse film. Maybe I'll find out some other time.

Hopefully some day we can discuss it further. Though would probably be easier to conform my ideas to that of the general population.

Anyway, back to the exploitation.

Mr.Eman · 01-04-2010, 11:49 PM

Almost any film by these three directors would probably fit into the exploitation category...
John Waters
Russ Meyer
Roger Corman
Lots of interesting flicks between them. They've given me plenty of laughs over the years!

jackhammer · 01-05-2010, 02:14 PM

This crime revenge drama from 1988 was shot on 16 mm and financed by a bank loan that should have paid for another year of film college for writer/director/screenwriter/stunt coordinator/ Jim Van Bebber who has also directed music vids for the likes of Skinny Puppy and Necrophagist.

I re watched this last night to refresh my memory and for a low budget film that could only be finished by using some B-Roll footage it's damn good.

Bebber needs to quit his gang for his sanity but when a rival gang kill his girlfriend he's out for revenge but instead of all guns blazing, it's knives, nunchuckas, kung fu and throat ripping. Throw in a little social commentary and you get a film with lots of rewatchability and half decent acting. It took me forever to get the DVD and it's still not released over here. More to come.

jackhammer · 01-12-2010, 06:24 PM

Cashing in on the Post Apocalyptic trend that includes Death Race 2000, Mad Max and Escape From New York, this low budget effort from Italy borrows heavily from Escape From New York. The only fertile woman in America is in New York which is run by the Eurax, a new government intent on subjugating the poor and infected from the nuclear holocaust but of course they rule by brute force and it's up to our man Parsifal ( a combination of Escape From New York's Snake Plisskin and Mad Max's Max Rockatansky) to smuggle her out aided by assorted characters and regular C movie star George Eastman.

From the opening shots of N.Y which are cardboard cut outs, obvious miniature work and terrible make up coupled with a cast that are dubbed apart from Parsifal and cheap ray gun effects you still get an entertaining film with imaginative sets and occasional good set pieces.

If you like the Post Apocalyptic genre then this is a must see for shits and giggles.

Cadrian · 01-13-2010, 02:23 AM

Hanzo is crazy.... Gotta love, Shintarô Katsu one of my favorite actors of all time considering Zatoichi. The first time I seen hanzo beat his junk with a club, I wanted to cry for the man. Crazy ass Series.

Lone Wolf and Cub is bad ass..... I love the first 3 or 4 but as the series goes on it gets bad. They get into the whole ninja digging in the dirt and ghosts and ****. If you like Lone Wolf and Cub you should check out Mute Samurai its a old Japanese tv series, which Tomisaburo Wakayama (lone wolf) plays the main character.

Dead Beat Dawn was cool, Love the whole throat rip out scene. I wouldnt have known about it but a friend of mine grew up in Germany on a Army Base and use to watch this as a kid. It took him years himself to get a copy of it himself, but soon as it came in the mail he had me over watching it.

I am going to have to check out Midnight confessions.... it looks promising.

As for my own Suggestion for exploitative movie.....

I would suggest Bohachi.... I was going to post a youtube Trailer. But I couldnt find a trailer with out breasts showing

And I am not to sure about forum rules here. But Its pretty much Hack and Slash and Breasts.

Guybrush · 01-13-2010, 06:46 AM

The Dead Next Door from 1989 is a cheap zombie flick whose two main selling points are that Sam Raimi was on the team as executive producer and that it has lots of gore. The quality of the picture is bad, the quality of the acting is non-existant and the film is ripe with references and not so subtle tributes to the big films in the genre, showing that this is a zombie film made by zombie film lovers. For example, the main character's name is .. Raimi.

It's still passably entertaining in a fun kind of way and it's not so rare that you won't be able to find it anywhere so zombie-lovers might wanna check this out. The story is quite Romero-ish. A zombie epidemic has turned the world into a post-apocalyptic place where survivors struggle against the threat of zombies. The main chars are part of a zombie-fighting team who has to deal with a cult that wants to preserve zombies rather than eradicate them.

Actually, the trailer describes the film perfectly.

Zarko · 01-13-2010, 06:57 AM

On Raimi..........

Perhaps it doesn't fit the modern day idea of an EF nowadays, but from my first viewing on the classic, thats what I took away from it - A film that wanted to suck you in with its excessive use of blood and gore effects, to the point where it becomes a joke (Moreso in its sequel). Not really similar to todays splatter films, ie Saw and whatnot, it does have its moments apart from the extreme gore/horror effects.

I mean, how can it NOT be an exploitation film when a woman gets raped by a tree branch? Also takes advantage of its low budget.

Still, one of my favourites in general.

I'll get into the more cheap exploitation unknown types next time.

Guybrush · 01-13-2010, 07:11 AM

The Evil Dead is one of those horror flicks which fascinated me so much as a teenager

Although I don't find it scary now, the first time I saw it, I thought it was quite exciting. It was the kind of film I made sure all my friends saw.

It's aged quite a lot even since then and I'm not sure what youth today would think of it, but to me it will always be a classic. Actually, to me the whole Evil Dead trilogy is.

01-05-2010, 02:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	This crime revenge drama from 1988 was shot on 16 mm and financed by a bank loan that should have paid for another year of film college for writer/director/screenwriter/stunt coordinator/ Jim Van Bebber who has also directed music vids for the likes of Skinny Puppy and Necrophagist. I re watched this last night to refresh my memory and for a low budget film that could only be finished by using some B-Roll footage it's damn good. Bebber needs to quit his gang for his sanity but when a rival gang kill his girlfriend he's out for revenge but instead of all guns blazing, it's knives, nunchuckas, kung fu and throat ripping. Throw in a little social commentary and you get a film with lots of rewatchability and half decent acting. It took me forever to get the DVD and it's still not released over here. More to come. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-12-2010, 06:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Cashing in on the Post Apocalyptic trend that includes Death Race 2000, Mad Max and Escape From New York, this low budget effort from Italy borrows heavily from Escape From New York. The only fertile woman in America is in New York which is run by the Eurax, a new government intent on subjugating the poor and infected from the nuclear holocaust but of course they rule by brute force and it's up to our man Parsifal ( a combination of Escape From New York's Snake Plisskin and Mad Max's Max Rockatansky) to smuggle her out aided by assorted characters and regular C movie star George Eastman. From the opening shots of N.Y which are cardboard cut outs, obvious miniature work and terrible make up coupled with a cast that are dubbed apart from Parsifal and cheap ray gun effects you still get an entertaining film with imaginative sets and occasional good set pieces. If you like the Post Apocalyptic genre then this is a must see for shits and giggles. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-13-2010, 06:46 AM	#18 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	The Dead Next Door from 1989 is a cheap zombie flick whose two main selling points are that Sam Raimi was on the team as executive producer and that it has lots of gore. The quality of the picture is bad, the quality of the acting is non-existant and the film is ripe with references and not so subtle tributes to the big films in the genre, showing that this is a zombie film made by zombie film lovers. For example, the main character's name is .. Raimi. It's still passably entertaining in a fun kind of way and it's not so rare that you won't be able to find it anywhere so zombie-lovers might wanna check this out. The story is quite Romero-ish. A zombie epidemic has turned the world into a post-apocalyptic place where survivors struggle against the threat of zombies. The main chars are part of a zombie-fighting team who has to deal with a cult that wants to preserve zombies rather than eradicate them. Actually, the trailer describes the film perfectly. __________________ Something Completely Different

01-13-2010, 07:11 AM	#20 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	The Evil Dead is one of those horror flicks which fascinated me so much as a teenager Although I don't find it scary now, the first time I saw it, I thought it was quite exciting. It was the kind of film I made sure all my friends saw. It's aged quite a lot even since then and I'm not sure what youth today would think of it, but to me it will always be a classic. Actually, to me the whole Evil Dead trilogy is. __________________ Something Completely Different

01-04-2010, 09:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Well I'm certainly confused about your definition of arthouse film. Maybe I'll find out some other time.

01-04-2010, 11:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Mr.Eman Groupie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ? Posts: 7	Almost any film by these three directors would probably fit into the exploitation category... John Waters Russ Meyer Roger Corman Lots of interesting flicks between them. They've given me plenty of laughs over the years!

01-13-2010, 02:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
Cadrian Music Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 111	Hanzo is crazy.... Gotta love, Shintarô Katsu one of my favorite actors of all time considering Zatoichi. The first time I seen hanzo beat his junk with a club, I wanted to cry for the man. Crazy ass Series. Lone Wolf and Cub is bad ass..... I love the first 3 or 4 but as the series goes on it gets bad. They get into the whole ninja digging in the dirt and ghosts and **. If you like Lone Wolf and Cub you should check out Mute Samurai its a old Japanese tv series, which Tomisaburo Wakayama (lone wolf) plays the main character. Dead Beat Dawn was cool, Love the whole throat rip out scene. I wouldnt have known about it but a friend of mine grew up in Germany on a Army Base and use to watch this as a kid. It took him years himself to get a copy of it himself, but soon as it came in the mail he had me over watching it. I am going to have to check out Midnight confessions.... it looks promising. As for my own Suggestion for exploitative movie..... I would suggest Bohachi**.... I was going to post a youtube Trailer. But I couldnt find a trailer with out breasts showing And I am not to sure about forum rules here. But Its pretty much Hack and Slash and Breasts.

01-13-2010, 06:57 AM	#19 (permalink)
Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	On Raimi.......... Perhaps it doesn't fit the modern day idea of an EF nowadays, but from my first viewing on the classic, thats what I took away from it - A film that wanted to suck you in with its excessive use of blood and gore effects, to the point where it becomes a joke (Moreso in its sequel). Not really similar to todays splatter films, ie Saw and whatnot, it does have its moments apart from the extreme gore/horror effects. I mean, how can it NOT be an exploitation film when a woman gets raped by a tree branch? Also takes advantage of its low budget. Still, one of my favourites in general. I'll get into the more cheap exploitation unknown types next time.