Music Banter

Music Banter (https://www.musicbanter.com/)
-   Media (https://www.musicbanter.com/media/)
-   -   Avatar (New James Cameron Movie) (https://www.musicbanter.com/media/43920-avatar-new-james-cameron-movie.html)

Janszoon 09-10-2009 06:11 PM

Avatar (New James Cameron Movie)
 
Has anyone else seen the previews for this? I can't decide if it looks like it will be good or if it looks like it will suck. The fact that it's James Cameron makes me think it might be worthwhile but I have to admit if I saw the preview without knowing who made it I don't think it would be very appealing to me. Thoughts?


Terrible Lizard 09-10-2009 06:14 PM

The "Australia" of 09. Big ****ing deal.

Janszoon 09-10-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Lizard (Post 733669)
The "Australia" of 09. Big ****ing deal.

I bet Australia would've been a better movie if it had some blue people in it.

Terrible Lizard 09-10-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 733673)
I bet Australia would've been a better movie if it had some blue people in it.

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...4682839029.jpg

I'm not feeling it.

Zen 09-10-2009 07:38 PM

How is it anyway similar to Australia.......?

Avatar could go anyway to be honest, I have HUGE hopes for it, because it is Jim, but still, the trailer didn't make it look that great, although in 3D....whoa, but yeah we'll see. I mean the Superman Returns teaser is probably my fave teaser ever, but the film sucked, trailers aren't the be all end all.

ProggyMan 09-10-2009 11:29 PM

A mix of Atlantis and The Word For World Is Forest. Could be interesting.

Janszoon 09-11-2009 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProggyMan (Post 733835)
A mix of Atlantis and The Word For World Is Forest. Could be interesting.

Have you heard anything about what the actual story is? I didn't feel like I got any sense of it from the preview.

Guybrush 09-11-2009 06:04 AM

Like you say Janszoon, it's Cameron and he's been involved with some rather splendid movies so I believe it will be good. I'm definetly looking forward to it.

moserw 09-11-2009 06:30 AM

Seeing that it is James Cameron (Aliens, The Abyss, The Terminator series, Titanic etc.) I do believe it will be good and do have high expectations.

Janszoon 09-11-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 733908)
Like you say Janszoon, it's Cameron and he's been involved with some rather splendid movies so I believe it will be good. I'm definetly looking forward to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by moserw (Post 733922)
Seeing that it is James Cameron (Aliens, The Abyss, The Terminator series, Titanic etc.) I do believe it will be good and do have high expectations.

Does the trailer seem a little lackluster to you though? I has been 12 years since his last movie after all. I'm concerned the man may have lost his touch.

Guybrush 09-11-2009 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 733931)
Does the trailer seem a little lackluster to you though? I has been 12 years since his last movie after all. I'm concerned the man may have lost his touch.

It looks like a bit of a hippie-mix between Labyrinth, Aliens, Pan's Labyrinth and Starship Troopers .. and I do agree that aside from looking rather nice (which Cameron movies always do), it doesn't look that exciting. I still have faith, though, I don't put much stock in trailers.

I would be lying if I said I was very excited about it though. It's more like - yeah, I'll see it when it's on the cinema. ;)

boo boo 09-11-2009 03:07 PM

Kinda stupid for so many people to say with so much certainty that this movie is gonna suck based on the trailer alone, people are too damn cynical nowadays, it's James goddamn Cameron. Have some enthusiasm.

IMO the trailer was great, it dosen't really tell me what the plot is but why should it? A trailers job is to get me hyped for the movie, and it did it's job. It did it well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 733937)
It looks like a bit of a hippie-mix between Labyrinth, Aliens, Pan's Labyrinth and Starship Troopers

And what's the problem with that?

Why does it remind you of the Labyrinth? So far I haven't seen any singing goblins, giant codpieces or Tina Turner wigs, which would be a nice addition to any movie.

Guybrush 09-12-2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 734227)
And what's the problem with that?

Why does it remind you of the Labyrinth? So far I haven't seen any singing goblins, giant codpieces or Tina Turner wigs, which would be a nice addition to any movie.

I don't really have a problem with it, it's just a tough one to pull off I think. As I wrote, I have faith in it. I think perhaps also the trailer is somewhat deliberate in disguising what it's actually about .. it's a bit random perhaps.

I added Labyrinth to the list simply because it looks a bit fairy-ish, but not in the dark pan's labyrinth way. Elves and bright lights in the forest shooting bows around bonfires. Legend (with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry) could've been a better fit than Labyrinth actually. It's got the lush forest visuals!

moserw 09-12-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 733931)
Does the trailer seem a little lackluster to you though? I has been 12 years since his last movie after all. I'm concerned the man may have lost his touch.

I will rather wait till I actually see it before rating it, but that's me. Trailers in themselves are not really indicative of anything. Most of them are great but the movies end up sucking big time, case in point Terminator Salvation which is not a patch on the series.

I personally do believe James Cameron will deliver considering he has been doing it for so long and has always been on the cutting edge of technology.

But all said and done lets wait and watch.

boo boo 09-12-2009 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 734437)
I don't really have a problem with it, it's just a tough one to pull off I think. As I wrote, I have faith in it. I think perhaps also the trailer is somewhat deliberate in disguising what it's actually about .. it's a bit random perhaps.

I added Labyrinth to the list simply because it looks a bit fairy-ish, but not in the dark pan's labyrinth way. Elves and bright lights in the forest shooting bows around bonfires. Legend (with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry) could've been a better fit than Labyrinth actually. It's got the lush forest visuals!

Ah Legend, I actually liked that movie and find it to be one of Ridley Scott's most underrated films.

The aliens do kinda remind me of characters out of an RPG game, but I also found District 9 to be a bit video gamish and that dosen't really bother me. I am impressed by the animation work done on the aliens and their expressions. And the backgrounds with the flouting mountains are amazing.

If some of the ideas here seem kinda dated, I guess it's because this movie is 12 years in the making, but I like movies with an old school feel and this one might capture that despite the 3D gimmick.

I usually hate 3D I'm actually looking forward to how this movie will look in 3D.

jackhammer 09-12-2009 12:41 PM

Whilst it undeniably looks great, I find Cameron as miss as he is it. The Abyss was overlong, True Lies was just another action film to me and Titanic? *sigh*. I have heard that the technology involved is another step forward in movie making but if the story still sucks then that doesn't matter a jot.

Of course no one cannot judge the film yet but I doubt if I will be rushing to the cinema to see it.

Guybrush 09-12-2009 02:12 PM

I think True Lies is a brilliant action flick! My favourite Cameron film however is without a doubt Aliens. I consider it a fantastic piece of movie history and I'm forever thankful. Terminator 1 and 2 are also good.

Titanic is not the sort of film I like to watch, but from an objective point of view, I'd argue that it is good. If you can agree that commercial value correlates to some extent with overall quality, I think it's still the biggest money maker in movie history. :p:

Anteater 09-12-2009 02:30 PM

Thing is though, regardless of whether or not Avatar turns out to be any good, many of you wouldn't give half a shit about it if it were being done by someone who isn't a brand-name director like Cameron.

I did like the trailer in any case though, and although every critic and their grandma are being pretentious and saying its going to "revolutionize" the future of film-making, I'll probably see it at an IMAX theatre at some point. :)

boo boo 09-12-2009 02:31 PM

I actually liked The Abyss, a lot. :(

As for True Lies, I mean it's stupid as all hell, but it's fun and entertaining.

I agree with Tore on Titanic, it's not my kind of movie, but I appreciate it as an extremely well made piece of filmmaking, it's an old fashioned tragic romance story, and I think for what it tried to be it succeeded.

IMO, his only bad film is this.

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/a...in/15/MPW-7881]

The guy has come a loooooooooooooooong way.

Guybrush 09-12-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 734584)
IMO, his only bad film is this.

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/a...in/15/MPW-7881]

The guy has come a loooooooooooooooong way.

Oh Gods what a horrible film that was .. :(

boo boo 09-12-2009 02:44 PM



This is the work of an Academy award winning director folks.

jackhammer 09-12-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 734576)
I think True Lies is a brilliant action flick! My favourite Cameron film however is without a doubt Aliens. I consider it a fantastic piece of movie history and I'm forever thankful. Terminator 1 and 2 are also good.

Titanic is not the sort of film I like to watch, but from an objective point of view, I'd argue that it is good. If you can agree that commercial value correlates to some extent with overall quality, I think it's still the biggest money maker in movie history. :p:

Just because it made a shedload of money doesn't automatically qualify it as a great film. Technically brilliant maybe too but how many albums are techically brilliant that no one listens to? Titanic was a great achievement logistically. Still overwrought, sentimental claptrap IMO.

As for True Lies, I will confess to only watching it once just after it came out but the fact that I have never felt the need to rewatch is vindication enough for me, although Jamie Lee curtis FTW.

Terrible Lizard 09-12-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 734591)


This is the work of an Academy award winning director folks.

I think that fishy deserves an oskarrrrr.

Janszoon 09-14-2009 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 734547)
Whilst it undeniably looks great, I find Cameron as miss as he is it. The Abyss was overlong, True Lies was just another action film to me and Titanic? *sigh*. I have heard that the technology involved is another step forward in movie making but if the story still sucks then that doesn't matter a jot.

Of course no one cannot judge the film yet but I doubt if I will be rushing to the cinema to see it.

I like the Abyss quite a bit and I'll probably have my man club membership revoked for saying this but I actually like Titanic too. True Lies on the other hand sucked ass. Cameron tried to make two stories into one movie and ended up doing a half-assed job with both. Also, lamest movie villain ever in that one.

Janszoon 09-14-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 734591)


This is the work of an Academy award winning director folks.

I've never gotten around to seeing Piranha II but wasn't it supposed to kind of a B-movie parody anyway?

Guybrush 09-14-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 735561)
I've never gotten around to seeing Piranha II but wasn't it supposed to kind of a B-movie parody anyway?

Contrary to what one might think from watching clips etc, the flying fish are nowhere enough to make the movie funny. I can't remember any humorous stuff from it that was intentional, so I don't think it's a parody. My guess is it just failed.

Janszoon 09-14-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 735599)
Contrary to what one might think from watching clips etc, the flying fish are nowhere enough to make the movie funny. I can't remember any humorous stuff from it that was intentional, so I don't think it's a parody. My guess is it just failed.

Ah, I think I just figured out the source of my confusion. Looks like the first Piranha movie, which was directed by Joe Dante and written by John Sayles, is the one that was a parody. What a weird decision to make a non-parody sequel to a parody movie. No wonder it turned out so awful.

boo boo 09-14-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 735599)
Contrary to what one might think from watching clips etc, the flying fish are nowhere enough to make the movie funny. I can't remember any humorous stuff from it that was intentional, so I don't think it's a parody. My guess is it just failed.

Yeah, this movie seemed to take itself way too seriously despite having the most ridiculous premise in horror film history. Unlike the Joe Dante original which was clearly a goofy parody.

Also this movie was edited and spliced up without Cameron's consent, he did the shooting for the film but other than that his role in the production was very minimal. And in a lot of interviews he calls The Terminator his first film, hmm. maybe this is one movie he'd like to forget. :laughing:

ProggyMan 09-14-2009 06:04 PM

Wikipedia has the plot outline.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:51 PM.


© 2003-2025 Advameg, Inc.