Yeah, it only had a unique control scheme and the balls not to upgrade to next gen graphics or even try to compete with Microsoft and Sony in the tech game. Instead they did something different and stuck to just doing what they do best, make games.

They thought outside of the box, and of course, an industry should never do that, they should just conform.

Gee, we have middle aged men climbing mount everest.

But moving your right arm? WAY too much effort.

And they wonder why are generation will be the last. :rolleyes:

What are you 10?

Convergence is a very new trend, how arrogant it is to just write off everything that came before.

You telling me the NES is boring just because all it could do was what it was supposed to do?

Are we so obsessed with quantity now that we can't accept a good product just because it can only do ONE thing. What has mankind come to?

Actually no, my cell phone can't do all that, it's just a cell phone, and it's ring tone?

Makes a ringing sound.

Same characters =/= same games.

First off, this quote is just full of wrong.

Why? Well let me tell you why. In the 90s (You see, most of us are young adults who grew up in that period) Nintendo and Sega were huge rivals, kids always argued over who was better, Mario or Sonic. Kids either had a Genesis or a SNES, I was lucky enough to have both, I grew up on both Mario and Sonic but was always bummed that I couldn't play both on one console. So I couldn't tell you how freaking excited I was to learn that not only would Mario and Sonic be on the same console, but they would share a game together.

When Brawl came out, and I pitted Mario against Sonic in a death match for the first time. Yeah, that was a big deal.

It was only something I had been wishing for since childhood, so yeah, Brawl, that was the greatest f*cking nostalgia trip a guy like me could ask for.

If only you had any understanding of what it was like to grow up at that time, you'd understand.

Nintendo and Sega were huge rivals in the 90s, it was like The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones, seriously. That rivalry paved the way for Sony and Microsoft.

Also, one good Sonic game? Wtf. Are you joking?

I'd take Sonic 3 & Knuckles over generic next gen shooters anyday. All the 2D Sonic games are top notch, including the more recent ones, the first two Sonic Adventure games were good if flawed, but all the 3D games that followed has really brought the series down, I admit to that.

Still. I see we're about to have a fanboy cat fight.

That can be avoided right now if you just admit that everything you said is wrong. ;)

hahahaha Ive actually disagreed with everything youve just about ever said about video games but have always hesitated to speak out against your retro gaming/Nintendo fanyboyism and I used to love Nintendo but since the N64 they've been going downhill. Gamecube is probably the biggest waste of money on Ive ever spent on a console (and I had a Dreamcast) I remembering selling it only to buy it again when RE4 (because it was GameCube Exclusive) came out for it, and about a year later it came out on PS2, go figure. Nintendo isn't thinking outside to the box they think like a toy company put some flashy characters collecting collecting shiny stars or coins and a control gimmick and hey you're selling millions of consoles. It's a very family oriented console isn't it? That's why the Wii always gets a big buzz whenever a violent and bloody game comes out on it. So you start getting insipid games like Madworld. Umm btw the last 8 or 9 generations of consoles didn't have motion sensored controls did they? NO if it isnt broke there isnt a need to fix it, sure its fun if I want to mess around with my friends or give my grandfather the experience of bowling without him ever ever having to lift a ball. "Gee, we have middle aged men climbing mount everest.

But moving your right arm? WAY too much effort.

And they wonder why are generation will be the last."
I think it's because we'd rather pick a fake bowling ball then get our fatasses out the door and pick up a real one. Convergence isnt a trend its just modernism, wake up we live in a world were a robot can mow my lawn while I watch the Dark Knight on blur ray on my PS3, the times theyre a chagin boobs. haha I wouldn't doubt that your cell as is your taste in games wasn't made after 1995. Also I can only save princess peach and zelda so many time before I say 'fuck it' and put down the controler. Sadly the same thing is happening to Solid Snake of Metal Gear with the PS, he's becoming their Mario, I can only hope Xbox won't do that to Master Chief but they probably well, even though the first 3 games are bad enough (except the multiplayer).

They ARE a toy company.

That's what a video game console is. A toy.

And yet you're arguing that they're NOT doing anything innovative or unique, interesting.

Now you're just contradicting yourself.

You could also just go outside and fight Moblins with a sword, fly in outer space and throw sh*t at people while riding a go kart on top of a dinosaur. Right?

What can I say? I'm very old school.

The day people consider that lame ass Samus ripoff Master Chief a video game icon on par with Mario and Sonic is the day I lose all faith in the gaming industry and humanity in general. :mad:

Seems to me like you've already made up your mind.

Yes but now I need help again. =3

:laughing:

Fair enough

Oh and get the PS3.

What do you need help with? If you're getting a 360 then just make sure to buy new and get the warranty.

You made a thread about the 360 and PS3.

If you didn't expect some fanboy battles to take place, you still have a whole lot to learn about the internet.

I can get through the whole "fanboy battles" thing.

Trust me.

Yah get the same thing with every other hobby.

But I asked for a reason.

The day has come when game consoles are no longer viewed as toy's but forms of entertainment systems the same as a DVD player,stereo, TV or whatever and to write it off as a simple toy is moronic. How is making a violent game for the wii innovative? I have more violent games on my 360 then Mario has gold stars and just as many family oriented games too. And there is no contradiction if you're referring to Nintendo's amazingly boring games series because that is boring, they could atleast have to decency to pump some fresh juice in that dead horse like Capcom did with RE4. Also you know I wasn't referring to fantasy games because no shit that isn't possible but it is possible to go out once in awhile and play some real sports. And Master Chief is actually viewed as a modern gaming icon, sorry you didn't get that memo. =\

This is why I can't argue with people like you. You make it all about everything else. The multimedia, the graphics, the violence, the online (because none of you can find actual friends to play with at home), the "maturity".

All but the actual gameplay. And when you get down to it, Super Mario Galaxy was a fun, exciting and fresh idea. Something I rarely if ever, see Microsoft or Sony come up with, they would be nothing without their third parties, really.

Halo, I'll never get the hype, it's Paintball: The Video Game, that's all it is, it was boring and generic then, and it's boring and generic now.

Oh, and speaking of "maturity", I never got what was so "mature" about games where you just shoot people or blow up fire trucks with rocket launchers. The imagination that made older games so great is gone.

Entertainment system? Enough of the euphemisms already. You're playing games whose core gameplay just consists of shooting a lot of people, it's hardly any different than when you played with your action figures, it's the same thing.

So please. Let's not fool ourselves, there's nothing mature about playing video games all day. Let's accept it for what it is.

Yeh exactly I play with strangers because I can't just add people I actually know. Play at home? On split screen? HAHAHAHAHA wow, you can't be serious about that. Even if I did play with people I don't know which I very rarely do what's wrong with that it's called being sociable meeting new people can be fun, but I think the word 'new' is frightening to you. And sure you can talk about third party support but say that again when your company's gaming branch doesn't have 20 years time to create exclusive titles and characters. Paintball the video game? I'm not even able to respond to something so absurd. 'it's hardly any different than when you played with your action figures, it's the same thing.' That's like saying looking at the Mona Lisa and looking at the real person are the same, they're not. Also if you write mature games off as simple shooting games you haven played enough, and video games are a legitimate form of entertainment. But I think it comes down to you being into the more old gaming styles and me being more modern, I can't see us coming to an agreement.

I agree most shooters, especially halo, are pretty boring.

But games like Heavy Rain are showing that games do have the potential to be mature with legitimate storytelling that almost rivals television/film.

Also online play is more then just an escape for people who have "no real friends to play with"(thats like saying music banter is a place for people who have no friends to discuss music with). It means level-sharing in little big planet, downloading music from the rock band store, or down loadable levels or even a continuation to the single player game.

I'll admit I am a little upset that Heavy Rain is a PS3 exclusive because I remember playing Indigo Prophecy (or Fahrenheit) when it came out on the PS2 and thinking "wow, I wish more games did this". I'm not sure how feasible drama is for a video game though, at least for a mass market. The game was little more than "Move left analogue stick and do button matching sequences". Now I can say that I really enjoyed Indigo Prophecy, even after the story went all loopy and I would like to see more games like it. I think the biggest factor for this is that I grew up on PC gaming which included the LucasArts adventure games. However those games started to die out when the technology started to improve. I'm all with you though, I'd like to see more Drama based games that focus more on story telling than gimmicky motion sensoring and the slaughtering of hundreds of people, but I know that it'll never really take off because it's not what the mass of people want unfortunately.

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I think the increase of "user made" material is a double edged sword. I'm going to paraphrase Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw but user made material really only works maybe 1/10th of the time. Especially for platform gaming, you're going to get Mario die hards who do their best to recreate levels from previous games and all you're left with is sifting through the crap that gets put out there. Maybe I don't want to play levels created by ametuers, maybe I want to play something that an actual level designer created. This whole "Let the player create the story" can really be compared to the rise of Reality TV, in which TV executives learned they could save a lot of money by following the daily going ons of "real people" rather than pay writers to create something that's actually worth watching. My biggest concern is that this is what the video game industry will slowly start to turn into. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of well created levels from fans, but those are few and far between.

didn't you already decide a few pages back that you were getting a 360?

But seeing as that is the wrong decision...

Anyways, sweet_nothing... there's no golden rule that says you have to play all the Wii Sports/Wii Play stuff. There's plenty of legitimate hardcore titles on the console that will keep you playing for hours. And you don't wave your fists around either. When I play SMG I sit on the couch, with the controllers in my lap and flick the remote every once in a while to attack a goomba. FPS games work the same way.

People need to get over the fact that blood and gore and cussing and some big epic story are not the necessary ingredients for a hardcore triple A title. Super Mario Galaxy is just as friggin' hardcore as Halo 3 and there's not one good reason why it isn't.

cuz bro i cnat liek t-bag n00bz in mario galaxy

Eh. I looked at the choices again. =P

The PS3 is a better investment. Just saying.

People have been 'just saying' that for years now, maybe as a collector's item. The PS3 gaming catalogue isnt a very strong one. It took Sony awhile before the console had a decent selection of good games and even their old exclusives such as Final Fantasy is being exported to the 360. Overall I can't really see someone purchasing a PS3 over a 360 as being very logical decision maybe if they want the best graphics but I'd rather have a wide selection of games.

The 360's selection is not a whole lot wider than the PS3's as I've already shown.

You made a list of exclusives you thought were great...

I made a list of exclusives based on press averages. That is the only way you can decide what games are "good" fairly.

I can't stand the controller for Xbox. That alone leans me toward PS3.
I haven't got either, but I'm waiting for the prices to go way down before I even think about deciding.

I'm the same way. That was my major decision for me NOT to get a Xbox. I can't be bothered with that crap controller. I'm too used to my ps controller.

I was such a nintendo fanboy growing up but Wii disappointed me so badly. I was going to get one anyways just for the ability to buy older games but then I thought about it. I'm like I can just get an emulator.

PS3 and 360 basically the same thing, a little different games but it doesn't really matter. If you have friends that play video games, get the one that your friends have so you can play together.

And if you play alone a lot, don't get Fallout 3 because it will ruin your life.

I think... *gulps*

Don't kill me.

I think I might get a Wii and a PS3.

*shields herself*

Good decision!

:laughing:

I have it for PC.
I had to put it down after a few months. I was really starting to stink.

There was one weekend back in November where I logged about 34 hours of the game, the worst part was I also worked that weekend :/

wow you have it like that huh?....I'm looking for a suga mamma....care to take me in? ;)

I'm just super envious that you have so much moneyz that you can buy both a Wii and a PS3 at the drop of a hat. lol.

I was about to point that out too, why not just buy them all? But I can't see the PS3 being much of a gaming system but more of big black machine that stores all your disappointment in Sony that also happens to play blue ray. :)

"dissapointment in Sony"

I don't even know where to begin with this statement. Do you get off on denying that the PS3 has good games despite universal acclaim on a number of exclusive titles?

I'd say ps3, always been a sony guy. FF13 ftw

The PS1 and 2 were amazing systems and the leading light in their generations so it's very difficult for me to accept this, as it's successor...
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By the way these are my own personal opinions and I am joking so no need to get worked up. That being said with 'universal acclaimed exclusives' I'm sure the 360 has just as many if not more but I'm not going to go on because what's her face has already made her choice and I've become bored with this fanboyism masquerading as serious discussion.

The 360 DOES have just as many... but all I'm saying is that you can't knock the PS3 for not having a good library of games. Because it does.

there is no reasoning with fanboys, I don't know why you try lol

You're right. :(