Official LOST Thread

[someonecompletelyrandom]

well for humour's sake they just listed every question on the show, even the answered ones. anything in particular that sticks out?

[Astronomer]

Yeah I know it was mostly for humour, but I still wonder a few things:

- Why did the Others want Walt again? I forgot. And why did he tell Locke not to open the Hatch, and how did he apparate???

- Why are supplies still being dropped on the Island after the purge and by whom?

- Who built the four toed statue and why does it only have 4 toes?

- What are all the hieroglyphics everywhere?

- Why can't women have babies on the island and why is that relevant? (Or isn't it?)

- Why did Ben give Juliet that weird mark on her arm as punishment? What does it mean?

- Why did Desmond see the future at times? And go back and forth between timelines? I don't get Desmond. Why did he see Claire and Aaron leaving on a helicopter? And why did Widmore's electromagnetic experiment send him to the afterlife and back? Someone explain Desmond to me.

- Why can Hurley see dead people?

- What are the 'rules?' and why do they exist? (When Alex gets killed)

- If the smoke monster can't leave the island, how come Jack sees his dead dad off the Island?

- What is the deal with the frozen wheel and the light on the island? Who finished building the wheel? What is the light? And why does the wheel combine "light and water" and what does it do? Why do they end up in the middle of the desert when they turn it?

- Why did the Oceanic 6, including dead Locke, HAVE to return to the Island? And why did they have to recreate the exact same circumstances?

- What is the deal with Eloise? How come she is in the purgatory place, is she dead, if so, then why isn't she 'moving on' and why isn't Faraday at the Church? And what is with that pendulum thing Eloise shows them earlier on in the show?

- Why can Jacob leave the island but his brother (smokey) can't?

- How did Sayid come back to life and why are he and Claire 'infected' and need to voluntarily take poison??

- How does the magic drinking of liquid work when somebody takes over the role of protector of the light and why does it make them "like" the previous person ("you're like me now").

- What was the deal with Widmore? What did he want? I know this has probably be answered or inferred in the show already but I'm confused.

[boo boo]

Well, I thought it was a good finale, the last scene with Jack was pretty powerful I think.

But I'm still pretty iffy about the whole "sideways timeline is actually purgatory" thing, I sure hope that was just symbolic because I thought the writers would come up with something less cliche than that.

I can accept most of the things the writers threw our way. Polar bears, magic black kids, electromagnetic islands, crazy scotsmen in hatches who are immune to radiation, evil smoke monsters, haunted cabins (they never explained that one), mediums, time travel, fountain of youth, fate.

But purgatory? No, that's going too far. And as Lateraus said, many unaswered questions.

Like the big one for me is, what the f*ck happened to Michael, Walt and Mr. Eko? Where were they during this big happy reunion in the afterlife? Apparrently Michael is still trapped on the island as a spirit, well that isn't fair, is he being punished for killing Ana Lucia and Libby? Well what about Ben and Sayid? They killed a sh*tload of people and in a much more cold and sinister manner, all Michael wanted was to get his kid back. And WHY did the smoke monster kill Eko? Also a question never answered.

Is there just a "no darkies in heaven" policy?

Well Rose was there so that's not it.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Like the big one for me is, what the f*ck happened to Michael, Walt and Mr. Eko? Where were they during this big happy reunion in the afterlife? Apparrently Michael is still trapped on the island as a spirit, well that isn't fair, is he being punished for killing Ana Lucia and Libby? Well what about Ben and Sayid? They killed a sh*tload of people and in a much more cold and sinister manner, all Michael wanted was to get his kid back. And WHY did the smoke monster kill Eko? Also a question never answered.

Is there just a "no darkies in heaven" policy?

Likely, Samuel (the man in black) was wanting to see if he could use Mr. Eko to do his bidding, maybe even try to occupy his body. That first time he "judged" Eko, he could have been thinking.. alright, this guy might be useful to me (same as with Locke). But for whatever reason, when Eko expressed that he was at peace with his life - he didn't want to confess sins - he became useless to the monster and he simply discarded him.

I believe Eko wasn't there because he didn't need to be. He didn't need the others to move on. He was already at peace with himself when he died. To quote the character, "I did not ask for this life I have been given, but it was given nonetheless. And with it, I did my best." When Eko dies, the last thing he sees is himself walking down a dusty road with his deceased little brother, who he loved and always protected. Are they in heaven together? Maybe. Another theory is that that was Eko's purgatory - could be either one... I personally prefer the heaven one because it didn't seem like Eko needed to "let go" of anything.

[glastonelle]

Originally Posted by Vanilla

I loved the first season of this show, however halfway through the second season it just seemed so utterly pointless so I stopped watching it.

Same! Its used to be cool. The Charlie died and I stopped watching

[CAPTAIN CAVEMAN]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Well, I thought it was a good finale, the last scene with Jack was pretty powerful I think.

But I'm still pretty iffy about the whole "sideways timeline is actually purgatory" thing, I sure hope that was just symbolic because I thought the writers would come up with something less cliche than that.

I can accept most of the things the writers threw our way. Polar bears, magic black kids, electromagnetic islands, crazy scotsmen in hatches who are immune to radiation, evil smoke monsters, haunted cabins (they never explained that one), mediums, time travel, fountain of youth, fate.

But purgatory? No, that's going too far. And as Lateraus said, many unaswered questions.

Like the big one for me is, what the f*ck happened to Michael, Walt and Mr. Eko? Where were they during this big happy reunion in the afterlife? Apparrently Michael is still trapped on the island as a spirit, well that isn't fair, is he being punished for killing Ana Lucia and Libby? Well what about Ben and Sayid? They killed a sh*tload of people and in a much more cold and sinister manner, all Michael wanted was to get his kid back. And WHY did the smoke monster kill Eko? Also a question never answered.

Is there just a "no darkies in heaven" policy?

Well Rose was there so that's not it.

rose is a house n****r, she doesn't count. the rest went to hell.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Yeah I know it was mostly for humour, but I still wonder a few things:

- Why did the Others want Walt again? I forgot. And why did he tell Locke not to open the Hatch, and how did he apparate???

Well it seemed like the others had a special interest in children, evidenced from taking the two children from the tail section survivors and their failed attempts to take Claire's baby. But Walt was pretty special in particular, but the writers never fully explained what his actual powers were. But the others probably wanted to experiment with him to find out, he did tell his dad that they were giving him "tests", we never find out what kind of tests they were.

It's possible that Walt was just a tool to get Jack, Sawer and Kate in the end but that would be a very anticlimatic answer.

Walt probably warned Locke because he knew all the chain of events it would lead to.

The Walt issue bugs me more than everything else that this show failed to resolve. I mean it was such a huge plot point, the writers shouldn't get away with raising all these questions without answering them. There's a difference between ambiguity and just f*cking around with you.

- Why are supplies still being dropped on the Island after the purge and by whom?

- Who built the four toed statue and why does it only have 4 toes?

- What are all the hieroglyphics everywhere?

- Why can't women have babies on the island and why is that relevant? (Or isn't it?)

Dammit those are all good questions, the last one probably has some pseudo-scientific explaination involving the electromagnetism of the island or something.

- Why did Ben give Juliet that weird mark on her arm as punishment? What does it mean?

Just a reminder I think.

- Why did Desmond see the future at times? And go back and forth between timelines? I don't get Desmond. Why did he see Claire and Aaron leaving on a helicopter? And why did Widmore's electromagnetic experiment send him to the afterlife and back? Someone explain Desmond to me.

Remember when Desmond took the vaccines while still in the hatch to fight the "sickness" or whatever? My theory is that it was Jacob's magic glowing water or whatever he calls it, that gave Desmond special immunity to radiation. But after the fail safe incident, somehow he traveled in time, HOW? I have no goddamn idea, but it was that experience that gave him the abillity to predict the future.

As for Claire, she probably was supposed to leave the island but puff the magic smoke man f*cked all that up when he manipulated her to stay on the island.

Also I'm not really sure but what if they really did create an alternate timeline? Juliet said it worked didn't she? If there never was an alternate timeline, then WHY? What was the hole in Faraday's theory?

It's possible that it really was an alternate timeline and the whole purgatory thing was just symbolic but that doesnt explain Christain popping out of the damn casket and also the whole "leaving" thing wouldn't make any sense. So I dunno.

- Why can Hurley see dead people?

I dunno but it makes me wonder if that Dave guy was really just an imaginary friend, maybe he was a dead guy?

- What are the 'rules?' and why do they exist? (When Alex gets killed)

No idea.

- If the smoke monster can't leave the island, how come Jack sees his dead dad off the Island?

Maybe that time it was the real deal?

- What is the deal with the frozen wheel and the light on the island? Who finished building the wheel? What is the light? And why does the wheel combine "light and water" and what does it do? Why do they end up in the middle of the desert when they turn it?

Well in the Jacob/MIB episode the guys ol smokey was chillin with created a wheel so they could "leave" the island, I dunno if it's the same wheel that Ben and Locke used under the Orchid station, since Locke found it after falling in a well which is where the smoke guy was building his, I think they're one in the same.

But the one the smoke guy was building was destroyed by his crazy mom killer lady so someone else rebuilt it.

- Why did the Oceanic 6, including dead Locke, HAVE to return to the Island? And why did they have to recreate the exact same circumstances?

Man you conjure up all this stuff I forgot about, maybe that's what the writers were counting on. Again no idea, what caused the second crash anyway? How did that old lady know it would crash?

- What is the deal with Eloise? How come she is in the purgatory place, is she dead, if so, then why isn't she 'moving on' and why isn't Faraday at the Church? And what is with that pendulum thing Eloise shows them earlier on in the show?

Well Desmond told him he wasn't taking Daniel, we don't know why but it's probably because Desmond knew she couldn't part with him.

The pendulum thing was designed by the dharma people and was part of an off island Dharma station called The Lamp Post, it was hidden underneath a church in LA, possibly the same church from the finale.

I think the pendulum is somehow connected to the Valenzetti Equation, which was part of the Lost Experience alternate reality game which I think is canon, it's an equation that the Hanso Foundation used to predict the fate of the world. The core numbers of the equation are you guessed it. 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.

- Why can Jacob leave the island but his brother (smokey) can't?

Probably because his brother is dead and like all the other "bad" spirits he can't leave.

Again, if only "good" spirits can pass on, then what in the HELL was that Keamy guy (crazy rambo dude from the freighter) doing in purgatory?

- How did Sayid come back to life and why are he and Claire 'infected' and need to voluntarily take poison??

I dunno if this is meant to be taken literally as a real sickness or what. Drawing a blank here, I got nothing.

- How does the magic drinking of liquid work when somebody takes over the role of protector of the light and why does it make them "like" the previous person ("you're like me now").

It's magic.

- What was the deal with Widmore? What did he want? I know this has probably be answered or inferred in the show already but I'm confused.

I think Widmore was simply being a collosal assh*le.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Oh, and... I'd like to know the answers to some of these questions, too. Anyone game?

Cotdayum.

For some of those questions there are pretty good theories, but the ones that most bother me are.

-Who made the four toed statue?
-What is the sickness?
-What was the lockdown all about and who sends the supply drops?
-Why were Kevin and Desmond making a map of an island they couldn't explore anyway? Why wouldn't Dharma already make a map of the island?
-What was the cabin and why was it surrounded by powder? Was it to keep the smoke guy out or keep him in? It seemed to have failed on either count
-What was the significance of Walt and his powers? If any
-Why did Jacob/Widmore want Danielle and Alex dead?
-What were the actual reasons that Daniel, Miles and Charlotte were brought to the island?
-Why was that creepy black guy who worked for Widmore urging Locke to go on a walkabout? Was Widmore using Locke somehow? Why?
-Was Widmore going to take the island from Jacob? What were his plans?
-Why did Ethan join the others?
-What was the magic box that brought Locke's dad to the island?
-Why did Faraday leave the island and where did he go?
-WTF was with Sayid being with Shannon in the end? Did he really choose her over Nadia, a woman he spent years of his life searching for? For a woman he'd spent time with for like, a few days?

And here's some really big ones that REALLY bother me.

-So was this purgatory or not? If there never was an alternate timeline, why not? How did Daniel's plan fail?
-How did everyone survive the explosion and why did they travel to the present? I mean how in the F*CK did Juliet not die immediately? She smashed a goddamn atom bomb with a rock for crying out loud.
-Who WAS the crazy old lady who raised Jacob and smokey?
-How did going into the cave turn the man in black into smoke but not Jack or Desmond?
-How exactly would the smoke guy leaving the island mean the end of the world? Because the only way he could leave the island was to destroy it's power source? What is the significance of the island to the rest of the world?
-How did Hurley never lose weight?

[Astronomer]

Originally Posted by boo boo

And here's some really big ones that REALLY bother me.

-So was this purgatory or not? If there never was an alternate timeline, why not? How did Daniel's plan fail?
-How did everyone survive the explosion and why did they travel to the present? I mean how in the F*CK did Juliet not die immediately? She smashed a goddamn atom bomb with a rock for crying out loud.
-Who WAS the crazy old lady who raised Jacob and smokey?
-How did going into the cave turn the man in black into smoke but not Jack or Desmond?
-How exactly would the smoke guy leaving the island mean the end of the world? Because the only way he could leave the island was to destroy it's power source? What is the significance of the island to the rest of the world?
-How did Hurley never lose weight?

My take:
- Yes, it was purgatory. Pretty sure the producers identified that it was after the show was aired as well?

- No idea how they travelled to the present but we don't even know if the bomb goes off. I don't think the bomb goes off.

- Obviously someone who was on the island before them, who was the protector of the light. Would like to know how people first arrived on the island though.

- I was wondering the same thing. No clue.

- The light on the island is obviously some sacred force - "life, death and everything" so if it was extinguished then it would be catastrophic for the world. I would like to know more about this light and the island and it's significance to the rest of the world as well. They turned the last episode into about the PEOPLE rather than about the ISLAND.

- Hahaha.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

I recommend reading this... it's a two part, very cohesive recap of the finale and the writer gives a very convincing interpretation.