Overated Films

**Janszoon** · 09-22-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Ouch, somebody must really hate Sweeny Todd to put it below Planet of the frickin Apes.

Basically the only Burton films I don't like are Mars Attacks and the Apes remake.

Yeah, for all its flaws at least Planet of the Apes wasn't boring, unlike Sweeny Todd. Pretty much the set design was the only part of the movie I liked, but get set design is basically a given with a Tim Burton movie.

It amazes me that anyone could dislike Mars Attacks since, even though it's not my favorite movie of his, I find it one of the most re-watchable of all of them.

TyrantSong · 09-22-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It amazes me that anyone could dislike Mars Attacks since, even though it's not my favorite movie of his, I find it one of the most re-watchable of all of them.

This is fact.

Plus, it had Tom Jones. That alone makes it a winning film.

**Janszoon** · 09-22-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TyrantSong

This is fact.

Plus, it had Tom Jones. That alone makes it a winning film.

And not only does it have Tom Jones, it has Tom Jones doing a musical number with forest animals. Double win right there.

boo boo · 09-22-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yeah, for all its flaws at least Planet of the Apes wasn't boring, unlike Sweeny Todd. Pretty much the set design was the only part of the movie I liked, but get set design is basically a given with a Tim Burton movie.

It amazes me that anyone could dislike Mars Attacks since, even though it's not my favorite movie of his, I find it one of the most re-watchable of all of them.

I like Sweeny Todd quite a bit. We need more horror musicals.

My beef with Planet of the Apes is that it IS boring, and stupid and incoherent and with dull and generic characters, lame action and just plain no reason to even exist. Aside from the amazing ape makeup, set design and badass Danny Elfman score, I think it's a pretty awful movie, though I don't blame Burton too much for that because I just don't think he was the right person to direct it.

Mars Attacks, I know some people like it but I really can't. Mainly because I never know what reaction the movie wants from me, for a comedy it starts taking itself way too seriously, and I don't know if that's part of the joke, but overall there wasn't a lot of actual humor. The aliens were cool, but the human cast was pretty much wasted (both metaphorically and literally) with the exception of Jack of course, who I thought gave the only funny performance in the film.

**Janszoon** · 09-22-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I like Sweeny Todd quite a bit. We need more horror musicals.

My beef with Planet of the Apes is that it IS boring, and stupid and incoherent and with dull and generic characters, lame action and just plain no reason to even exist. Aside from the amazing ape makeup, set design and badass Danny Elfman score, I think it's a pretty awful movie, though I don't blame Burton too much for that because I just don't think he was the right person to direct it.

Mars Attacks, I know some people like it but I really can't. Mainly because I never know what reaction the movie wants from me, for a comedy it starts taking itself way too seriously, and I don't know if that's part of the joke, but overall there wasn't a lot of actual humor. The aliens were cool, but the human cast was pretty much wasted (both metaphorically and literally) with the exception of Jack of course, who pretty much chewed the scenery the best he could.

Well I definitely agree that Planet of the Apes was incoherent that's for sure.

As far as your comments go about not knowing how to take Mars Attacks, I guess I'm not sure which parts of the movie you think are "taking itself way too seriously". The whole movie is funny to me, it's 100% tongue-in-cheek from beginning to end and every actor plays it that way so I'm having a hard time thinking of any scenes that I could imagine someone taking seriously. It's probably the most straight up comedy of any of Burton's movies.

Mojo · 09-23-2009, 09:49 AM

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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I really did love School of Rock. Did anyone happen to see in the DVD extras, Jack Black's video plea to Led Zepplin to use their song in the movie? It made me laugh anyway...

I remember seeing the trailers and reading write up's and stuff and thinking that film was gonna be something I wouldnt be able to stand. But i dont think its too bad....shhh.

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I was actually watching this last night but stopped it halfway through to finish today (which i NEVER do) because i was so bored. I love these sort of films but where's the substance and witty one liners? I probably shouldn't really judge at this point but there's nothing engaging about it.

I was thinking the exact same way when I was half way through it, Fight Club that is. It just seemed disorganised and a lot of it seemed to be completey unnecessary. I was wondering why certain scenes were even included because surely they couldnt be relevant in any way.

It all kind of made sense by the end but yeah, i wasnt convinced.

jackhammer · 09-23-2009, 06:32 PM

Fight Club is the hipsters choice in name dropping much the same as having a Bob Marley poster on the wall when in fact they know bugger all about Reggae. Fight Club is technically brilliant but far too up it's own ass. I can't stand Ed Norton anyhow and while we are on the subject American History X is vastly overated too. Believer or The Firm (not the Tom Cruise crapfest) are far more accurate portrayals of that particular sub culture.

boo boo · 09-23-2009, 07:26 PM

I thought American History X was excellent but I can see why people don't like it.

Thrice · 09-23-2009, 07:31 PM

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Fight Club is the hipsters choice in name dropping much the same as having a Bob Marley poster on the wall when in fact they know bugger all about Reggae. Fight Club is technically brilliant but far too up it's own ass. I can't stand Ed Norton anyhow and while we are on the subject American History X is vastly overated too. Believer or The Firm (not the Tom Cruise crapfest) are far more accurate portrayals of that particular sub culture.

I'd say I'm on the opposite end of the Spectrum...I'd agree that the Ed Norton Films named above are overrated, but he's a champ in my book. The Score and Rounders were pretty sweet, and his best IMO is Primal Fear. I'd throw Primal Fear into the Underrated category, for it is a very fine flick.

BTown · 09-23-2009, 08:34 PM

Zoolander isn't funny. At all. Ben Stiller is awful.
Napoleon Dynamite ( it had to be said)
Tropic Thunder...

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