What TV shows are people watching?

debaserr · 05-04-2017, 12:10 PM

Well I've seen it about 8 times so.

The Batlord · 05-04-2017, 12:13 PM

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Well I've seen it about 8 times so.

Damn... so what was Vietnam like?

Trollheart · 05-04-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Didn't they do that with the last season before the lead change. Also 12 episodes are better. They don't want to risk ratings decline dragging it out for 24 episodes like they used to. It can still be called 24 if they are going through 24 hours of the day. Time jumps count!

But once again, it isn't doing that. It started at 12AM and ends now at 12 PM. Still only 12 hours, therefore the entire premise is changed, unless this is not the finale but a mid-season thing (as I say, I have not quite caught up with it yet).

I don't see ratings dropping when not only had they strong ratings for 8 seasons but the DVDs continue to sell well. Should be a lock. If they're cutting it to 12 because they're afraid people won't stick with it, they're pussies.

Edit: just checked on Wiki and you're right. D'oh! Nevertheless, they're still ****s for doing me out of 12 whole episodes! I was looking forward to this! Bastards.

Trollheart · 05-04-2017, 02:26 PM

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Damn... so what was Vietnam like?

This

The Batlord · 05-04-2017, 02:35 PM

That says Ho Chi Minh City instead of Saigon. I asked what it was like. *******.

Trollheart · 05-04-2017, 02:59 PM

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That says Ho Chi Minh City instead of Saigon. I asked what it was like. *******.

Pedant.

Chiomara · 05-04-2017, 04:42 PM

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Just wrapped up 13 Reasons Why...what an intense show. There's been a lot of backlash with people upset that it glorifies suicide. That just tells me people don't think too hard about what they are watching. It in no way glorifies suicide - in fact, I felt it took great pains to remain neutral about the topic, letting you form your own opinions about the situation. Every single character (even the really bad one) had aspects to their personalities that you could love or hate. I think the problem is that the show is incredibly realistic (both in how it characterizes high schoolers and how realistic the various traumas that happen to the characters are portrayed) and people just can't handle that. I would say this is the Netflix Original equivalent of Requiem For a Dream - watch it once, walk away incredibly depressed, never watch it again.

Really? I found it incredibly unrealistic and ham-fisted in pretty much every way (though granted I only watched four episodes). Super cringey dialogue, too. Like an after-school special combined with a terrible indie film starring your standard, garden-variety broody nerd boy and sad quirky girl.
Most shows do an absolutely terrible job at portraying suicidal people and mental illness, though, particularly if they're marketed toward teenagers. An actual suicidal person is generally not going to have the energy to create an elaborate scavenger hunt + record an incredibly long, melodramatic monologue unless perhaps they're in the midst of a manic episode. Based on what I've gathered from both the show and the book it's based on, it just perpetuates the warped notions that the general public tends to have about the inner lives of suicidal people and Troubled Teens™. (Not that I expect a show or movie starring fictional characters to be 100% realistic, but I can't deal with bad, tedious writing on top of that.)

Trollheart · 05-04-2017, 05:00 PM

Just watched the penultimate episode of Billions. A lot of the time the high finance jargon has me scratching my head and the plots confuse me, but this one had such an incredible, unexpected twist that I almost stood up and applauded (nearly said imploded!

) - the finale is going to be epic.

djchameleon · 05-04-2017, 05:11 PM

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Really? I found it incredibly unrealistic and ham-fisted in pretty much every way (though granted I only watched four episodes). Super cringey dialogue, too. Like an after-school special combined with a terrible indie film starring your standard, garden-variety broody nerd boy and sad quirky girl.
Most shows do an absolutely terrible job at portraying suicidal people and mental illness, though, particularly if they're marketed toward teenagers. An actual suicidal person is generally not going to have the energy to create an elaborate scavenger hunt + record an incredibly long, melodramatic monologue unless perhaps they're in the midst of a manic episode. Based on what I've gathered from both the show and the book it's based on, it just perpetuates the warped notions that the general public tends to have about the inner lives of suicidal people and Troubled Teens™. (Not that I expect a show or movie starring fictional characters to be 100% realistic, but I can't deal with bad, tedious writing on top of that.)

This analysis is so far off the mark that I don't even know where to begin deconstructing it, especially for someone that gave up four episodes in.

You don't get to see how someone's individual trauma ends up affecting the mental state of those around them. They showcase various different ways this occurs while constantly jumping back and forth from past to present. This show kept me engaged and I actually couldn't watch it in the background like I do with most other shoes because I would end up slightly lost or miss and important detail.

If you don't feel like watching the entire series at least watch the after the series special they have. This show in no way glorifies suicide down to the very act being shown in a realistic way and not like an artistic version of the act that I thought they might have done.

Key · 05-04-2017, 05:38 PM

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This analysis is so far off the mark that I don't even know where to begin deconstructing it, especially for someone that gave up four episodes in.

You don't get to see how someone's individual trauma ends up affecting the mental state of those around them. They showcase various different ways this occurs while constantly jumping back and forth from past to present. This show kept me engaged and I actually couldn't watch it in the background like I do with most other shoes because I would end up slightly lost or miss and important detail.

If you don't feel like watching the entire series at least watch the after the series special they have. This show in no way glorifies suicide down to the very act being shown in a realistic way and not like an artistic version of the act that I thought they might have done.

I watched a few more episodes just to see if I'd enjoy it, because when I heard about it / saw one episode, I was already thrown off of it. That opinion did not change and I didn't bother. I don't think you actually understand why it is such a horrible representation of the themes within.

And honestly, I won't even try to convince you because it's impossible to.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Just watched the penultimate episode of Billions. A lot of the time the high finance jargon has me scratching my head and the plots confuse me, but this one had such an incredible, unexpected twist that I almost stood up and applauded (nearly said imploded! ) - the finale is going to be epic. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018