What TV shows are people watching? (rock, fan, quote)

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're an idiot.

There are so many differences, I ... I just don't know where to begin...

The basic premise and style of humor are identical. If they've managed to make something of it, then good for them, but it's still a Buffy knockoff at heart.

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Buffy Summers shaped me into the woman I am today.

Same here, girlfriend.

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 12:38 PM

There are similarities, but you could say that about any "hip" show. What about Grimm? Tremors? Dresden Files? Being Human? It's more important how many differences there are:

Sam and Dean are travelling, not static in one location ie Sunnydale
There are basically only two main characters
There is an overall story arc, and while there was one in Buffy, later, it wasn't apparent as it is in Supernatural from the get-go
The boys face generally different monsters most weeks, unlike with Buffy where it's more or less vampires, vampires and, um, vampires. Oh, and vampires.
Main "bad guy" pretty much all through the series (what I've seen of it anyway)

I found it to be highly original, and apart from some superficial similarities, would definitely not compare it to Buffy, which was a totally different animal altogether.

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

There are similarities, but you could say that about any "hip" show. What about Grimm? Tremors? Dresden Files? Being Human? It's more important how many differences there are:

Grimm is most definitely a Buffy knockoff. It's even made by many of the same people.

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Sam and Dean are travelling, not static in one location ie Sunnydale

Not a significant difference.

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There are basically only two main characters

Not a significant difference.

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There is an overall story arc, and while there was one in Buffy, later, it wasn't apparent as it is in Supernatural from the get-go

Different story lines ≠ original series concept

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The boys face generally different monsters most weeks, unlike with Buffy where it's more or less vampires, vampires and, um, vampires. Oh, and vampires.

Have you seen Buffy? Robots, giant praying mantises, mummies, zombies, more types of demons than you could shake a stick at, etc.

And it's not an accomplishment that Supernatural doesn't stick to vampires. If it did, then it would be not just a Buffy knockoff, but a complete Buffy clone. It's just common sense for them to try to come up with a premise that they can pass off as original. Like Grimm.

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Main "bad guy" pretty much all through the series (what I've seen of it anyway)

Different story lines ≠ original series concept

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I found it to be highly original, and apart from some superficial similarities, would definitely not compare it to Buffy, which was a totally different animal altogether.

Prog dweebs.

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 01:44 PM

Again, the premise is not even vaguely similar, unless you take monster-hunting as the premise, and if you do that you have to include a whole lot more shows.

Go back to your comics, Bat-boy.

Also, just exactly how much of Supernatural have you actually seen? I seem to remember you telling me you watched "the odd episode". Hardly gives you the experience in it that allows you to start comparing it to other shows?

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Again, the premise is not even vaguely similar, unless you take monster-hunting as the premise, and if you do that you have to include a whole lot more shows.

Go back to your comics, Bat-boy.

Yes, there are a lot of Buffy knockoffs.

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Also, just exactly how much of Supernatural have you actually seen? I seem to remember you telling me you watched "the odd episode". Hardly gives you the experience in it that allows you to start comparing it to other shows?

"How can you say you don't like the Beatles when you haven't heard every single song they've ever written?!"

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yes, there are a lot of Buffy knockoffs.

"How can you say you don't like the Beatles when you haven't heard every single song they've ever written?!"

Ah man! You're slipping! You can't compare the two. If you're going to talk about a show, and then compare it to another show, you can't do that by watching one or two episodes. Just doesn't work. Do you even know the arc in Supernatural, what it's all about?

You know who you sound like now, don't you?

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Ah man! You're slipping! You can't compare the two. If you're going to talk about a show, and then compare it to another show, you can't do that by watching one or two episodes. Just doesn't work. Do you even know the arc in Supernatural, what it's all about?

You know who you sound like now, don't you?

It doesn't take long to recognize a Buffy knockoff. Joss Whedon's style is so distinctive that it can't be replicated without it being obvious.

10-20-2015, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	There are similarities, but you could say that about any "hip" show. What about Grimm? Tremors? Dresden Files? Being Human? It's more important how many differences there are: Sam and Dean are travelling, not static in one location ie Sunnydale There are basically only two main characters There is an overall story arc, and while there was one in Buffy, later, it wasn't apparent as it is in Supernatural from the get-go The boys face generally different monsters most weeks, unlike with Buffy where it's more or less vampires, vampires and, um, vampires. Oh, and vampires. Main "bad guy" pretty much all through the series (what I've seen of it anyway) I found it to be highly original, and apart from some superficial similarities, would definitely not compare it to Buffy, which was a totally different animal altogether. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-20-2015, 01:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Again, the premise is not even vaguely similar, unless you take monster-hunting as the premise, and if you do that you have to include a whole lot more shows. Go back to your comics, Bat-boy. Also, just exactly how much of Supernatural have you actually seen? I seem to remember you telling me you watched "the odd episode". Hardly gives you the experience in it that allows you to start comparing it to other shows? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018