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14232949 · 10-15-2012, 02:59 PM

I watched the finale to BBC's brilliant four part drama 'Good Cop' on the Iplayer the other night.
The fourth and final episode had earlier been taken from the air because of its similar themes to the recent double murder of police women in Manchester.

I'm quite a fan of cop shows, and this one was really good.
Gritty and deep, it tells the story of John-Paul Rocksavage's descent into desperation after the murder of his colleague and friend Andy, and Rocksavage's obsession with bringing those guilty to justice.

Although I felt the last episode was a little flawed in that it strayed from the plot of the first three episodes and left a few loose ends, the series was the best drama I've seen the beeb produce in quite some time.

Anyone else watch it?

Trollheart · 10-16-2012, 05:34 AM

Don't tell me the end don't tell me the end!!! (covering ears)
Yeah, I watched the first two episodes then noticed that the last one had not been recorded! Thought I'd missed it but now I see it was just delayed, probably due to what you said above. Now I have the last two to watch.

To be honest, I thought it was ok but in terms of being something different I kind of didn't really see it. It got a little predictable near the end of the second ep and I kind of thought so what? Maybe it gets better in the second half, I'll be watching it soon and will let you know.

I did think the casting was a little off: I thought Rob Jarvis was playing both the parts of the CID guy and the scumbag criminal: don't you think they look a bit similar? So I couldn't believe it when he turned up as the CID officer and thought "that's a twist". But it wasn't, just coincidence.

Meh. So far. If you want to see a really good cop drama I'd recommend the first two Rebus stories, "Messiah" and "Messiah II" (there were two more but it got a bit silly after those) and also "Red Riding", seriously one of the most disturbing dramas I've ever watched.

14232949 · 10-16-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Don't tell me the end don't tell me the end!!! (covering ears)
Yeah, I watched the first two episodes then noticed that the last one had not been recorded! Thought I'd missed it but now I see it was just delayed, probably due to what you said above. Now I have the last two to watch.

To be honest, I thought it was ok but in terms of being something different I kind of didn't really see it. It got a little predictable near the end of the second ep and I kind of thought so what? Maybe it gets better in the second half, I'll be watching it soon and will let you know.

I did think the casting was a little off: I thought Rob Jarvis was playing both the parts of the CID guy and the scumbag criminal: don't you think they look a bit similar? So I couldn't believe it when he turned up as the CID officer and thought "that's a twist". But it wasn't, just coincidence.

Meh. So far. If you want to see a really good cop drama I'd recommend the first two Rebus stories, "Messiah" and "Messiah II" (there were two more but it got a bit silly after those) and also "Red Riding", seriously one of the most disturbing dramas I've ever watched.

Perhaps I had a lower expectations of crime dramas going in, after having seen some truly terrible series's.

I did enjoy Good Cop though, the lead role was played well and the story was layered and consistent in turning Rocksavage from another 'good cop' into a desperate and erratic criminal, like the ones he sees every day on the job.

Robert Jarvis does look a little like Stephen Graham maybe 10 years ago or so.
I wish they'd kept Graham's character alive longer, he's one of the most believable scummy bad guy actors out there. He's sometimes miscast, but in that role he's one of the best.

I've heard of Rebus, will get round to watching them. I'm quite into crime fiction also if you have any novels you would recommend.

Trollheart · 10-16-2012, 08:31 AM

I think Stephen Graham's best role was as Al Capone in "Boardwalk empire", and yes, he is one hell of a bad guy. I was disappointed he was killed off so quickly, though the surprise he must have felt: "You dont have the balls, boy --- ARRRGHH! Guess you do!"

I know what you mean about Rocksavage's character, but I kind of expected more. Sure, good intentions lead to bad actions, but we all know that. I thought maybe (and of course I haven't seen the end yet) he might be forced into some decision, maybe to do with his girlfriend, I don't know, choose good over evil, if you can imagine such an outdated concept?

The killing of his mate was shocking and a good twist, the catalyst to set Rocksavage on his way to "the dark side", but in fairness, originally he had no choice: it's not like Graham offered to surrender and he just cut him down. It was kill or be killed. I liked the way the other "funny tough guy" became such a wimp as he realised he was going to be killed, but unless I'm very wrong it's easy to guess where this is all going to end.

Sorry but I don't read crime fiction, so can't help you out there. As for drama, well, I always found "Taggart" (the originals) gritty and realistic, and the first season of "Dark blue" was really, er, dark, though it got a bit more fluffy when Tricia Helfer joined. I do like her, but the "grey area" they were working in became more defined in season 2 and the whole thing took on a lighter tone, which sort of ruined it for me. Another good one is "Underbelly", an Australian crime drama based on true events which took place in Melbourne in the 80s.

10-16-2012, 05:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	Don't tell me the end don't tell me the end!!! (covering ears) Yeah, I watched the first two episodes then noticed that the last one had not been recorded! Thought I'd missed it but now I see it was just delayed, probably due to what you said above. Now I have the last two to watch. To be honest, I thought it was ok but in terms of being something different I kind of didn't really see it. It got a little predictable near the end of the second ep and I kind of thought so what? Maybe it gets better in the second half, I'll be watching it soon and will let you know. I did think the casting was a little off: I thought Rob Jarvis was playing both the parts of the CID guy and the scumbag criminal: don't you think they look a bit similar? So I couldn't believe it when he turned up as the CID officer and thought "that's a twist". But it wasn't, just coincidence. Meh. So far. If you want to see a really good cop drama I'd recommend the first two Rebus stories, "Messiah" and "Messiah II" (there were two more but it got a bit silly after those) and also "Red Riding", seriously one of the most disturbing dramas I've ever watched. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-16-2012, 08:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I think Stephen Graham's best role was as Al Capone in "Boardwalk empire", and yes, he is one hell of a bad guy. I was disappointed he was killed off so quickly, though the surprise he must have felt: "You dont have the balls, boy --- ARRRGHH! Guess you do!" I know what you mean about Rocksavage's character, but I kind of expected more. Sure, good intentions lead to bad actions, but we all know that. I thought maybe (and of course I haven't seen the end yet) he might be forced into some decision, maybe to do with his girlfriend, I don't know, choose good over evil, if you can imagine such an outdated concept? The killing of his mate was shocking and a good twist, the catalyst to set Rocksavage on his way to "the dark side", but in fairness, originally he had no choice: it's not like Graham offered to surrender and he just cut him down. It was kill or be killed. I liked the way the other "funny tough guy" became such a wimp as he realised he was going to be killed, but unless I'm very wrong it's easy to guess where this is all going to end. Sorry but I don't read crime fiction, so can't help you out there. As for drama, well, I always found "Taggart" (the originals) gritty and realistic, and the first season of "Dark blue" was really, er, dark, though it got a bit more fluffy when Tricia Helfer joined. I do like her, but the "grey area" they were working in became more defined in season 2 and the whole thing took on a lighter tone, which sort of ruined it for me. Another good one is "Underbelly", an Australian crime drama based on true events which took place in Melbourne in the 80s. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

10-15-2012, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	I watched the finale to BBC's brilliant four part drama 'Good Cop' on the Iplayer the other night. The fourth and final episode had earlier been taken from the air because of its similar themes to the recent double murder of police women in Manchester. I'm quite a fan of cop shows, and this one was really good. Gritty and deep, it tells the story of John-Paul Rocksavage's descent into desperation after the murder of his colleague and friend Andy, and Rocksavage's obsession with bringing those guilty to justice. Although I felt the last episode was a little flawed in that it strayed from the plot of the first three episodes and left a few loose ends, the series was the best drama I've seen the beeb produce in quite some time. Anyone else watch it?