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Chula Vista 04-30-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1830013)
Just finished the first episode of American Gods.

All I can say is it's perfect.

Perfect.

This excites me. One of the best novels I've ever read. King, Straub, Barker, Bradbury, and McCarthy, all rolled into one.

Which network or cable streaming service?

Chiomara 04-30-2017 02:57 PM

Oh it's out already?? :0

bob. 04-30-2017 04:43 PM

Yeah it started today.

It's on Starz which I added to my Amazon prime account

Goofle 05-01-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1829986)
I don't think it's a huge stretch if their opinion is affecting national policy.

:laughing:

Frownland 05-01-2017 08:55 AM

Nye's too soft on them. Throw them in the pit with the anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, creationists, naturalists, and let's throw in all of the religious leaders (priests, imams, etc) with them.

Blatantly dishonest science definitely needs to be reprimanded. The only way you'd be against that is if you got tricked into thinking there's some validity to these bought and sold scientific opinions.

Goofle 05-01-2017 09:12 AM

You can argue against a carbon tax (since eric brought up policy) whilst also agreeing with the standard scientific consensus about climate change, so I think it's a little silly to suggest we should jail people who argue for things like cutting the carbon tax whilst also being sceptical of the scientific consensus.

An example of a case against the carbon tax: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.o...g-paper-33.pdf


Downloading American Gods since bob. said such great things about it.

Frownland 05-01-2017 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1830226)
You can argue against a carbon tax (since eric brought up policy) whilst also agreeing with the standard scientific consensus about climate change, so I think it's a little silly to suggest we should jail people who argue for things like cutting the carbon tax whilst also being sceptical of the scientific consensus.

What on earth are you talking about? This field's too small to move the goalposts my man.

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1829848)
We are talking about a guy that is open to criminally charging climate change deniers :laughing:

"Being skeptical" of the scientific consensus is rarely backed up by anything besides dark money. So I'm open to scientifically valid arguments against the current consensus on climate change, but until I see any of those it only makes sense to treat ****ty science the same way that you would treat any other type of fraud. We obviously take that case-by-case though because simply writing off all negating views is not very scientific. They just have to be substantiated views.

I think that any scientist who uses dishonest methods to support their view should be held accountable as well ftr.

Goofle 05-01-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1830228)
What on earth are you talking about? This field's too small to move the goalposts my man.

eric mentioned it would be feasible to place criminal charges on those who affect public policy. Carbon tax is one of those. I didn't move any goalposts, rather I zero'd in one the bottom left corner. If you deny climate change and want to make changes to policy based on that, make your case.

Edit: He said "national" not "public" policy.

Frownland 05-01-2017 09:31 AM

I'll let eg use his mouth to say his words before I accuse you of strawmanning.

But yes they still need to be imprisoned and possibly even beheaded. This applies to any scientist committing fraud.

Goofle 05-01-2017 09:33 AM

I mean the post is here.

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1829986)
I don't think it's a huge stretch if their opinion is affecting national policy.



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