It's not really a show about Batman though, and once the Bat-bros understand that, I doubt they'll come back week after week. After that you're left with a police procedural that's set in a comic universe. Now, if they were adapting Gotham Central then I'd be okay with that, because the part of the point of that comic series was to showcase the feelings of frustration among the Gotham City Police Department now that we live in an age of Superheroes and costumed vigilantes who operate outside of the law, while subsequently making the cops look bad or incompetent. It would also show how police agencies have had to adapt now that there are super powered villains with freezeray guns and whatnot. All of that sounds pretty interesting, and while they've included characters like Detectives Renee Montoya and Crispus Allen, I'm still worried that it's just going to be a dull, by-the-numbers police procedural that happens to take place in a city where interesting comic book stuff will eventually happen.

Compare that last sentence to the other comic/TV adaptations coming this fall:

1) Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D's 2nd season as it leads into The Avengers 2: Age of Ultron

2) Arrow's 3rd season which has A LOT of places it can go, especially after the season 2 finale.

3) The Flash, while this will be riding the coattails of Arrow, it still holds distinction by being the only show on TV at the moment where the protagonist is an honest-to-god superpowered superhero, so it'll be interesting to see how they work around a network TV budget.

4) Constantine, which if nothing else looks to be adamant about staying closer to the source material and given what NBC has allowed Hannibal to get away with, I'm not as concerned about this show being ham-stringed by network restrictions.

5) Agent Carter, not really sure if this is going to be in the Fall 2014 lineup or not, but still, a period piece spy drama about the early days of superheroes, could be pretty interesting.

That's not even counting the 4 Netflix original series' coming in 2015 about Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist that culminates in a Defenders miniseries.

So what again does Gotham have to offer? It's a police procedural set in a comic book universe? Well guess what, even goddam superhero show is going to follow a police procedural formula, the only difference is in the other ones, we actually get goddamn superheroes.

I dunno if it's resignation or just silent optimism that Netflix or HuluPlus or someone picks it up. Might not happen right away, but if Arrested Development can come back some 7 years after cancellation then I think people are pretty sure Community could, even if it would just be for it's a 6th season and movie.

I think part of the resignation is coming from the cast's silence (and news that members are signing new deals), and Harmon's ambivalence about doing another season...

And I disagree with you DJ, I would have liked a proper finale; I don't necessarily think that the characters required it, but the one that we did have to go out on was very lackluster as far as season-finales have gone.

This Extended Flash trailer feels like I watched the entire pilot episode.


I would have liked another season of Community also but I'm okay with the way it ended especially for a comedy series.

I'm still surprised that the CW is actually managing not to ruin that show. Everything they do is mediocre at best and yet Arrow manages to seize victory from the jaws of defeat.

Give it a year or two, no decent show can withstand the pull into mediocrity from that network. If it gets to 5 decent seasons then I'll consider it a miracle.

As to the other thing, I don't know if the writers/producers are confident enough for the more comic-booky parts of the larger universe and will probably introduce them later and retcon the changes into canon.

Well they're already gonna do it with the Flash. Can't do the Flash without making it hella comic booky. Not to mention they've already got two vampire shows, one Buffy lite-show, and now a ****ty sci fi version of Lord of the Flies. So the CW is kind of shameless. No reason they can't do the Lazarus pit. Not like it would even need to be particularly expensive either. Have some green water, add a spooky looking background, I'm assuming there might be some kind of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom style pully-thing, and bango tango you've got a Lazarus pit.

Two episodes into Fargo and I think I'm in love.

I've been wondering about that show, I think movie shows are a lil weird but I love Hannibal and Bates Motel

If you like the movie it's worth a shot, the show lives up to it, albeit in a rather different way.

This past Saturday, I stumbled upon this show SAF3.

I just love all the has beens and never wases that they tapped for this show.

Dolph Lundgren
J.R. Martinez
Texas Battle
Lydia Hull

I had to tune in and check out this train wreck of a show.