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Old 07-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #1241 (permalink)
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From my perspective, Seinfeld is great. Probably the only sitcom I can watch every episode of, and the standard I hold all other sitcoms to.
Seinfeld is certainly great, but Married with Children was, hands down, the greatest sitcom ever. It took everything The Cosby Show did and turned it upside down. If your family is seriously dysfunctional, that show is god.

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Wow, the acting in 30 Rock is bad? If there's one ares of that show which is done right its the acting. Even Tracy Morgan manages to be convincing, at least to me.
It's not so much that the acting is bad, it's just that the style of the acting just completely turns me off. Trying to sound ridiculous while at the same time trying to sound serious but keeping it ironic at the same time (or whatever it is they do) just makes me want to repeatedly beat everyone in the show's head against the sidewalk. Of course, I've also despised anything Tina Fey has been in since she first appeared on SNL. Ditto Jimmy Fallon.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:45 AM   #1242 (permalink)
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Aww, trying to sound ridiculous while remaining serious is how I approach life.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:47 AM   #1243 (permalink)
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Aww, trying to sound ridiculous while remaining serious is how I approach life.
But I assume that you sound like a person. Nobody on 30 Rock does.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:06 AM   #1244 (permalink)
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But I assume that you sound like a person. Nobody on 30 Rock does.
I would say they sound about as much like people as the characters on Married with Children do.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:24 AM   #1245 (permalink)
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I would say they sound about as much like people as the characters on Married with Children do.
But the characters on Married with Children aren't trying to sound so desperately ironic. Always trying to sound so obviously ironic just makes Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan just seem like actors dryly reading lines as if they're too self conscious to actually try to bring any actual personality to their character.
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But the characters on Married with Children aren't trying to sound so desperately ironic. Always trying to sound so obviously ironic just makes Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan just seem like actors dryly reading lines as if they're too self conscious to actually try to bring any actual personality to their character.
I guess I don't see the actors on 30 Rock as trying to sound obviously ironic. It's actually pretty hard for me to imagine how anyone could describe Tracy Morgan as "dryly reading lines". If anything his performance is kind of over the top.
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It's actually pretty hard for me to imagine how anyone could describe Tracy Morgan as "dryly reading lines". If anything his performance is kind of over the top.
But he tries too damn hard to be over the top that he just comes off as some guy trying to be over the top. Which is very dry and boring to me.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:08 PM   #1248 (permalink)
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But he tries too damn hard to be over the top that he just comes off as some guy trying to be over the top. Which is very dry and boring to me.
I think Tracy Morgan is the best part of 30 rock. I find his character hilarious. I also love married and seinfeld. Comedy covers a pretty broad spectrum.
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But he tries too damn hard to be over the top that he just comes off as some guy trying to be over the top. Which is very dry and boring to me.
But aren't "over the top" and "dry" kind of opposite concepts? I'm confused how he can be both.
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But aren't "over the top" and "dry" kind of opposite concepts? I'm confused how he can be both.
He's just so obvious and calculating about being over the top that it takes all the ridiculousness out of his performance and it becomes dry and lame. Like the circle of life. I don't know how to explain it any better. Not being condescending, if I just sound confusing, I really don't know how to put it any better than that.
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