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Sneer 01-14-2009 09:11 PM

Expressionist Cinema
 
Who shares the love for early German cinema such as The Cabinet of Dr Cagliari , The Golem: How He Came Into The World, Metropolis, Nosferatu etc?

Cabinet of Dr. Cagliari in full



A clip from Nosferatu


The end of The Golem


And a modern example. The best thing Tim Burton has ever done

Rubber 01-14-2009 09:39 PM

i saw nosferatu on spongebob lol

Surell 01-14-2009 10:03 PM

Dude, so did I. We're just a couple of goons.

Anyway, I'm wantin to check out Nosferatu.

Sneer 01-14-2009 10:08 PM

You should, its probably the best piece of Expressionist film ever imo. F. W Murnau is a genius in the way he used tone, lighting and music to create what still is a scary film.

RoemerMW 01-14-2009 10:48 PM

Nosferatu was great, I admit that I'm not familiar with early German cinema. I shall fix this problem ASAP. What other films of Murnau's would you recommend that I watch next? I think that Faust is available at my local library, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd appreciate any suggestions, I've only heard heard/read/etc. praise for Nosferatu, his other films seem to rarely get mentioned.

Sneer 01-14-2009 11:02 PM

The Last Laugh is his best German film with exception to Nosferatu and Faust. He emigrated to Hollywood and made Sunrise, which a lot of people say is one of the greatest films ever made. Expressionist-wise though, Nosferatu and Faust are his best.

RoemerMW 01-14-2009 11:59 PM

I've heard of Sunrise many times before, I had no idea that he was the one who directed it. If my library has it, I shall borrow Faust.

Molecules 01-15-2009 02:28 AM

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b/M_poster.jpg

'M' is my favourite, and Metropolis was at one point scored by Queen apparently. *shudder*

can anyone think of any expressionist films that weren't German? were there any?

EDIT: props for the 'cabinet..' link, not seen it yet!

Sneer 01-15-2009 07:03 AM

I dont think there actually were. The whole movement was known as German Expressionism, the Italians and French were doing Surrealism and Realism around the same time

ikvat 01-15-2009 07:26 AM

It's crazy but i've been terrorized by Nosferatu when i was a child.

Sneer 01-15-2009 07:38 AM

As in the film yes?

jackhammer 01-16-2009 08:46 AM

M, Nosferatu are excellent. I'm a big fan of Sergei Eisenstein too. Strike! is a masterclass in montage editing. I still need to watch Sunrise, it's something of a masterpiece.

Sneer 01-16-2009 08:53 AM

Sergei Eisenstein is a top director, Im a big fan of The General Line for the message implicit within it. I wouldnt say he's an expressionist though.

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:10 AM

No he is'nt thats why I mentioned about the editing :D On a slightly different note. Did you ever see 'Shadow Of A Vampire' that supposed that Max Shreck (Nosferatu) was a real life vampire? Excellent quirky movie starring Willem Dafoe and john Malkovich.

Sneer 01-16-2009 09:17 AM

Sorry overlooked that part, a director who is absolutely incredible for his use of editing is Dzigo Vertov, Man With a Movie Camera is so good.

I've heard of that, didnt Malkovitch play Murnau and Dafoe Shreck?

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:45 AM

Yeah. Eddie Izzard is in it too. Well worth a watch. Dafoe is astonishing. I have never heard of Dzigo Vertov. I will have to dig up some info and get a film on my rental list.

Sneer 01-16-2009 09:52 AM

I'll look into that. Definately get Man With a Movie Camera, theres no scenario, no acting, no props - its a complete subversion of the conventions of cinema. Its literally him filming city life in the USSR, Odense i think, but he edits it in such a way to convey all this hidden meanings and facts of life you would not notice in quotidian circumstances You could say it's a realisat movie shot in a surrealist aesthetic

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:56 AM

It definitely sounds intriguing. I hope that you have seen this too: Roma, città aperta (1945). Another sublime masterpiece. So much good European cinema. it's just a case of digging! Are you studying film at Uni? As you seem very knowledgeable. My knowledge is just life knowledge u know?

Sneer 01-16-2009 10:03 AM

I havent, thats another one to hunt out! I do yeah, well, its a sub-topic. Plus im generally in love with French and German cinema. Thats well good, not enough people know or enjoy silent film, some of it is incredible. Even Le Voyage dans la lune is great, and that was made in 1902!

jackhammer 01-16-2009 10:06 AM

What's your favourite French Film? A lot of people cite 'Breathless' as the king of cool but I much prefer 'Bob Le Flambeur' which was 5 years earlier. That film is so cool. Rififfi too! so many films not enough time!

Sneer 01-16-2009 10:20 AM

Toughie... Les Yeux Sans Visage, Les Quatre Cent Coups, La Règle du Jeu, Under The Roofs of Paris, Un Chien Andalou... and thats just oldies. I love contemporary French film too.

jackhammer 01-16-2009 11:46 AM

--Les Yeux Sans Visage--. What a film! Haunting. It's a recent film but have you checked out 36? Brilliant film as good as 'Heat' which it is similar too. Damn should rename this thread French cinema lol

Sneer 01-16-2009 12:10 PM

Have you ever seen Un Chien Andalou? Its one of the most uncomfortable films you'll ever watch. I've seen a bit of it but i got bored :S i need to be in the right frame of mind for some films so i'll give it another go.

Lol yer, i dont think anybody's watched the videos i put up haha

jackhammer 01-16-2009 12:20 PM

Oh yeah. A few times :D The eyes slashing was a sheeps eye in case you were wondering.

RoemerMW 01-16-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 580075)
Have you ever seen Un Chien Andalou? Its one of the most uncomfortable films you'll ever watch. I've seen a bit of it but i got bored :S i need to be in the right frame of mind for some films so i'll give it another go.

Lol yer, i dont think anybody's watched the videos i put up haha

Un Chien Andalou was great, I love that film. Other than that, the only Luis Bunuel film I've seen is The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, which was also pretty great, but I think I'll need to watch a few more times before I can truly appreciate it. And I would watch the videos you put up, but I prefer to watch films on a bigger screen and in higher quality than youtube.

Sneer 01-19-2009 10:06 AM

Thats fair enough, i just wanted to provide samples for people who were not familiar with any of it. I would advise you stick on Nosferatu, Dr Caligari or The Golem on a big screen in a room with all the lights out so your senses are honed in on the film and only the film.

Janszoon 01-19-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 579172)
Who shares the love for early German cinema such as The Cabinet of Dr Cagliari , The Golem: How He Came Into The World, Metropolis, Nosferatu etc?]

For the past year or two I've been on a kick of trying to watch a lot of these movies. I absolutely loved Metropolis and M. I had a harder time getting into The Cabinet of Dr Cagliari and Nosferatu though I'm glad I saw them. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find anyone who has The Golem for rent, I'd really like to see that one.


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