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Sneer 01-15-2009 07:38 AM

As in the film yes?

jackhammer 01-16-2009 08:46 AM

M, Nosferatu are excellent. I'm a big fan of Sergei Eisenstein too. Strike! is a masterclass in montage editing. I still need to watch Sunrise, it's something of a masterpiece.

Sneer 01-16-2009 08:53 AM

Sergei Eisenstein is a top director, Im a big fan of The General Line for the message implicit within it. I wouldnt say he's an expressionist though.

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:10 AM

No he is'nt thats why I mentioned about the editing :D On a slightly different note. Did you ever see 'Shadow Of A Vampire' that supposed that Max Shreck (Nosferatu) was a real life vampire? Excellent quirky movie starring Willem Dafoe and john Malkovich.

Sneer 01-16-2009 09:17 AM

Sorry overlooked that part, a director who is absolutely incredible for his use of editing is Dzigo Vertov, Man With a Movie Camera is so good.

I've heard of that, didnt Malkovitch play Murnau and Dafoe Shreck?

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:45 AM

Yeah. Eddie Izzard is in it too. Well worth a watch. Dafoe is astonishing. I have never heard of Dzigo Vertov. I will have to dig up some info and get a film on my rental list.

Sneer 01-16-2009 09:52 AM

I'll look into that. Definately get Man With a Movie Camera, theres no scenario, no acting, no props - its a complete subversion of the conventions of cinema. Its literally him filming city life in the USSR, Odense i think, but he edits it in such a way to convey all this hidden meanings and facts of life you would not notice in quotidian circumstances You could say it's a realisat movie shot in a surrealist aesthetic

jackhammer 01-16-2009 09:56 AM

It definitely sounds intriguing. I hope that you have seen this too: Roma, città aperta (1945). Another sublime masterpiece. So much good European cinema. it's just a case of digging! Are you studying film at Uni? As you seem very knowledgeable. My knowledge is just life knowledge u know?

Sneer 01-16-2009 10:03 AM

I havent, thats another one to hunt out! I do yeah, well, its a sub-topic. Plus im generally in love with French and German cinema. Thats well good, not enough people know or enjoy silent film, some of it is incredible. Even Le Voyage dans la lune is great, and that was made in 1902!

jackhammer 01-16-2009 10:06 AM

What's your favourite French Film? A lot of people cite 'Breathless' as the king of cool but I much prefer 'Bob Le Flambeur' which was 5 years earlier. That film is so cool. Rififfi too! so many films not enough time!


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