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someonecompletelyrandom 10-21-2009 12:15 PM

That's the second one. That other little kid was introduced in that one, Kimi or something like that.

WolfAtTheDoor 10-21-2009 01:21 PM

The Simpsons was innovative, fresh and intelligent - 10 years ago. Family Guy has never been any of those things and is fairly patchy, but in a good episode you're looking to get a fair few genuine belly laughs. South Park has been incredibly consistent, and it is interesting to see how it has altered from irrelevant and crass to important and satirical.

South Park by a fair distance.

boo boo 10-21-2009 04:43 PM

I love the satire but I also miss the old episodes that weren't really about anything political, so it's a treat when they put out the occasional episode that is just some character's random adventure.

storymilo 10-21-2009 04:50 PM

Wolf pretty much summed it up. Southpark rarely has moments I don't like, Family Guy often does but can sometimes be rally funny, and Simpsons... well I haven't watched many episodes but I've seen some old ones and they are clever. My favorite is the one where Homer thinks he's going to die because the sushi he ate was improperly cut.

BTown 10-21-2009 04:52 PM

In my eyes South Park really isn't that creative, every once in a while there's a good episode but Family Guy delivers every episode and has a really witty sense of humor.

NumberNineDream 10-21-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787 (Post 756085)
In my eyes South Park really isn't that creative, every once in a while there's a good episode but Family Guy delivers every episode and has a really witty sense of humor.

Family Guy is written by manatees.

WolfAtTheDoor 10-21-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BTown787 (Post 756085)
In my eyes South Park really isn't that creative, every once in a while there's a good episode but Family Guy delivers every episode and has a really witty sense of humor.

I wouldn't really call it witty... South Park is witty. Sharp and cerebral. Family Guy is more or less entirely devoid of plot and relies on random and incoherent short-sketches dotted throughout its episodes. American Dad has basically exactly the same humour as Family Guy, but because its writers are relying on one central theme per episode it ends up nowhere near as funny as Family Guy often is.

South Park is now more or less entirely satirical and in my opinion remains the only intelligent viewing out of the three. I watched an old episode of The Simpsons recently, the one where they adopt Santa's Little Helper from the race track, and I forgot just how down-to-earth and rooted in reality it once was. The main draw of The Simpsons was that it portrayed how real life was but in cartoon form, now it's trying too hard to follow in the erratic footsteps of Family Guy and it's looking all the worse for it.

storymilo 10-21-2009 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 756088)
Family Guy is written by manatees.

Hehehe I love that episode(s)

boo boo 10-21-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfAtTheDoor (Post 756124)
I wouldn't really call it witty... South Park is witty. Sharp and cerebral. Family Guy is more or less entirely devoid of plot and relies on random and incoherent short-sketches dotted throughout its episodes.

That is not at all a bad thing, that's just it's style of humor.

It worked for Monty Python didn't it?

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South Park is now more or less entirely satirical and in my opinion remains the only intelligent viewing out of the three. I watched an old episode of The Simpsons recently, the one where they adopt Santa's Little Helper from the race track, and I forgot just how down-to-earth and rooted in reality it once was. The main draw of The Simpsons was that it portrayed how real life was but in cartoon form, now it's trying too hard to follow in the erratic footsteps of Family Guy and it's looking all the worse for it.
Well The Simpsons at it's prime was extremely satirical, witty and well written. I think the newer episodes are just ok, but I do agree that the show is losing some of the things that made it so great to begin with.

Also, Fox has pretty much ruined their sunday night lineup, nothing against Seth but does he really need THREE shows? Even though I like Cleveland as a character I don't really have high expectations for another McFarelane project.

I think Mike Judge made a horrible mistake by quitting King of the Hill just to do The Goode Family which was spectacularly unfunny and deservedly canceled. Sure KOTH may have been past it's peak, but it's cancelation was in vain. :(

Remember when the Fox lineup was Simpsons/Futurama/Family Guy/King of the Hill?

That was the best lineup ever.

Violent & Funky 10-22-2009 12:55 AM

South Park had a run from about season 3 to season 9 or 10 that remains my favorite stretch of TV episodes ever. Yeah, it was really crude for it's first season or so, but in season 2 you could see the potential for what was to come. After that, there really wasn't more than a handful of episodes that were bad until the time A.C. (after Chef). It was just the right mix of shock humor, story telling, satirical genius, and character development. Nobody creates characters like South Park.

Family Guy isn't something I tune into every week, but it's hard to not laugh when you watch an episode.

The Simpsons, like South Park, had a stretch in the early-to-mid 90s when it was seemingly on top of the world.

Personally, I just prefer the sharp satirical comedy of South Park over the slapstick of Family Guy or the story telling of The Simpsons...

BTown 10-22-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 756198)

Remember when the Fox lineup was Simpsons/Futurama/Family Guy/King of the Hill?

That was the best lineup ever.

I Can't stand Futurama but I think King Of The Hill was underrated, I didn't laugh much when I watched it but I find it more enjoyable than The Simpsons.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-22-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 756198)
That is not at all a bad thing, that's just it's style of humor.

It worked for Monty Python didn't it?

That's because it was funny when they did it.

boo boo 10-22-2009 01:50 PM

Ok, fair enough.

Looking back on it that was a really bad comparison.

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Originally Posted by BTown787 (Post 756445)
I Can't stand Futurama but I think King Of The Hill was underrated, I didn't laugh much when I watched it but I find it more enjoyable than The Simpsons.

I love Futurama. I can understand that you prefer Family Guy to it and The Simpsons, but don't try to argue that it's more well written because it isn't.

I like Family Guy but let's be honest, when compared to South Park, The Simpsons, Futurama and King of the Hill. FG obviously takes the least amount of effort to write, anyone can throw in a bunch of pop culture references and shock humor at random and make it work.

It's a lot harder to put jokes into an actual storyline and make it relevant. With all the other shows, the storylines themselves are funny and have some kind of inspiration and theme to them. With Family Guy that is absolutely not the case, it's pretty much impossible to remember what episode a skit came from because they're all interchangable, you can take one of the "how about that time when..." skits and put them in any other episode and it wouldn't make a difference at all.

It's rather lazy actually, but to their credit, they often come up with some hilarious gags, they just can't write an actual story worth the crap.

someonecompletelyrandom 10-22-2009 02:23 PM

It's funny, I like pretty much every show mentioned in this thread.

I love Futurama perhaps more than I could ever love the shows, though. It's intelligent writing, geek humor and has to have some of the best character devopment I've ever seen in a cartoon - perhaps topped only by King of the Hill's characters.

boo boo 10-22-2009 08:30 PM

Family Guy has the least character development of all the shows. Characters more often than not just do their job to deliver whatever random gags the writers come up with, and they very often do things that are out of character.

We all know that Stewie is at his best when he's some maniacal evil genius, that Brian is at his best when he's a wisecracking culture snob, and that Peter is at his best when he's 10x the amount of retarded that Homer is.

But there are several moments of the show where characters will do something that's out of character just for the sake of a joke that probably isn't even funny. That is one of the greatest flaws of Family Guy, much too often it sacrifices the story and characters for the jokes, which is something the other cartoon shows don't do.

When Cartman does something, it's always something you'd expect Cartman to do, same with anything Homer and Bart does, or anything Fry and Bender does, or anything Hank and Bobby does.

But almost all of the characters in Family Guy are just caricatures who never have a consistant backstory, they're not very well defined and their personalities can change in various ways depending on the joke, which is lazy and inconsistant writing.

Again, I like Family Guy, but you gotta admit it has some serious flaws.

ebakez 10-22-2009 08:43 PM

SP, for constantly creative and logically sequential scenes
also for taking down 99% of the ridiculous celebrities that everyone wants to do something about but cant for whatever reason (fear?)

family guy is hilarious though i gotta admit but SP is too powerful, plus they have really true morals in most of their shows, now how can you beat that?

never watched simpsons much, more shtick thananything else and futurama has several awkwardly cheezy moments in each episode which steers me away from it, though it does have a lot of good humor

ebakez 10-22-2009 08:45 PM

oh, also, anyone reading this should check out Curb Your Enthusiasm, its just a newer, edgier, funnier seinfeld. if you dont have hbo watch it online, its pure gold

Fruitonica 10-22-2009 09:39 PM

I watched the first episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm the other day, and it didn't really impress me that much. It definitely furthered the Seinfeld model of exploring the absurd minutiae of these peoples neurosis, but the jokes just weren't as good. I did really enjoy the absence of a laugh track.

Does it get better?

Captain Awesome 10-23-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 756463)

It's rather lazy actually, but to their credit, they often come up with some hilarious gags, they just can't write an actual story worth the crap.

*silently nods in agreement*

- captain awesome signing out

FETCHER. 10-23-2009 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 756480)
It's funny, I like pretty much every show mentioned in this thread.

I love Futurama perhaps more than I could ever love the shows, though. It's intelligent writing, geek humor and has to have some of the best character devopment I've ever seen in a cartoon - perhaps topped only by King of the Hill's characters.

I tend to watch Futurama everytime its on, everyday. It's awesome.

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 756690)
We all know that Stewie is at his best when he's some maniacal evil genius, that Brian is at his best when he's a wisecracking culture snob, and that Peter is at his best when he's 10x the amount of retarded that Homer is.

Veryvery true. I hate to agree, but it's all the truth.

Antonio 10-23-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 754949)
I hated that show.

Oh well, I'm just glad nobody brought up Drawn Together.

Drawn Together? I love that show! :)

NumberNineDream 10-23-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 756896)
Drawn Together? I love that show! :)

me too!

How about Happy Tree Friends? I watched it maybe twice, so I still don't have some opinion about it.

someonecompletelyrandom 10-23-2009 11:17 AM

It's an okay show. After a while the violence shock kind of wears off though, so watch in moderation ;)

ebakez 10-24-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruitonica (Post 756734)
I watched the first episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm the other day, and it didn't really impress me that much. It definitely furthered the Seinfeld model of exploring the absurd minutiae of these peoples neurosis, but the jokes just weren't as good. I did really enjoy the absence of a laugh track.

Does it get better?

as with every tv show there are bad episodes and there are good episodes, but also not every tv show is for everyone. i find pretty much every episode hilarious with the subtlety and lack of emphasis of jokes, and the awkwardness of larrys situations, but thats just me

NumberNineDream 10-24-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 756992)
It's an okay show. After a while the violence shock kind of wears off though, so watch in moderation ;)

I felt it was cute more than violent. lol. It's like watching an "Itchy and Scratchy" show, but less good.

ebakez 10-25-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 757317)
I felt it was cute more than violent. lol. It's like watching an "Itchy and Scratchy" show, but less good.

haha nice comparison

FETCHER. 10-31-2009 03:06 PM

I watched some South Park last night. I kept comparing how much better Family Guy was all the way through the episodes, it was alright in all honesty, I just find Family Guy makes me laugh wayyy more :)

Captain Awesome 11-01-2009 02:31 AM

I was watching family guy last night, the episode where peter tries to make a chick flick and where stewie marries his old flame. It's probably one of the best episodes i.m.o and i was laughing but as usual i couldnt help noticing the obvious, every joke is interchangeable and completely irrelevant to the plot. I think family guy is more childish/slapstick the way the jokes are delivered where as south park has its childish jokes but also has clever jokes a lot of people don't even pick up on. I guess it just depends on what you're looking for. Personally i'll always enjoy south park more.

Which episode of south park did you watch btw? you should watch cartoon wars where family guy and the simpsons appear. Awesome ep.

FETCHER. 11-01-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome (Post 761010)
I was watching family guy last night, the episode where peter tries to make a chick flick and where stewie marries his old flame. It's probably one of the best episodes i.m.o and i was laughing but as usual i couldnt help noticing the obvious, every joke is interchangeable and completely irrelevant to the plot. I think family guy is more childish/slapstick the way the jokes are delivered where as south park has its childish jokes but also has clever jokes a lot of people don't even pick up on. I guess it just depends on what you're looking for. Personally i'll always enjoy south park more.

Which episode of south park did you watch btw? you should watch cartoon wars where family guy and the simpsons appear. Awesome ep.

I guess I like the randomness of Family Guy and how you never expect the jokes really, well you never know what the jokes going to be.

It was the one where Aliens look for an Alien criminal, and the people take the space cash blablabla, know what one I'm on about?

storymilo 11-01-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 761291)
I guess I like the randomness of Family Guy and how you never expect the jokes really, well you never know what the jokes going to be.

It was the one where Aliens look for an Alien criminal, and the people take the space cash blablabla, know what one I'm on about?

I know that episode Kayleigh, it's not really one of Sp's best. By the way, if you like the randomness and *cough* stupidity of Family Guy jokes, you should check out the early Southpark seasons. The jokes are more random and more juvenile; just like Family Guy:)

FETCHER. 11-01-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo (Post 761305)
I know that episode Kayleigh, it's not really one of Sp's best. By the way, if you like the randomness and *cough* stupidity of Family Guy jokes, you should check out the early Southpark seasons. The jokes are more random and more juvenile; just like Family Guy:)

Yeah I might, I just watch whatever episodes on tv though! I'll definetly make an effort to watch some early stuff :). Also, the episode really wasn't great, I found I was forcing myself to watch it, I got bored of it easily.

boo boo 11-02-2009 01:35 AM

Watched a new episode of Family Guy. In this one Peter is diagnosed with the "gay gene" which of course, turns him gay, he then dumps Lois for some guy, leading to Brian sending Peter to "straight camp".

There was so much potential here, but it was wasted. A pretty medicore episode.

NumberNineDream 11-02-2009 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 761471)
Watched a new episode of Family Guy. In this one Peter is diagnosed with the "gay gene" which of course, turns him gay, he then dumps Lois for some guy, leading to Brian sending Peter to "straight camp".

There was so much potential here, but it was wasted. A pretty medicore episode.

^ that reminded me of the one where Peter discovers that he's from Black origins. And another one where he turns out to officially retarded. Like the same plot over and over ...

I liked the one where Stewie kills Lois... like Finally!

FETCHER. 11-02-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 761536)
^ that reminded me of the one where Peter discovers that he's from Black origins. And another one where he turns out to officially retarded. Like the same plot over and over ...

I liked the one where Stewie kills Lois... like Finally!

haha, the one where he finally kills Lois is good, and the one where he smashes Brian was hilarious, I could watch it over and over and over again :D

wickedlk 11-02-2009 08:30 AM

Both great shows that I watch regularly but I had to go with South Park! When they're both on form, South Park is just 'that much' better!

"Is the crew ok?"
"Yes sir, they're French so they surrendered immediately" :rofl:

someonecompletelyrandom 11-02-2009 09:51 AM

^ lol!

boo boo 11-03-2009 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 761542)
and the one where he smashes Brian was hilarious, I could watch it over and over and over again :D

Yeah that one was classic.

Stewie is always at his best when he's evil, I think they need to play that up more.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-03-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 761984)
Yeah that one was classic.

Stewie is always at his best when he's evil, I think they need to play that up more.

I like him better as the violently unstable but sexually confused "regular douche" at Brian's side.

boo boo 11-03-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 762051)
I like him better as the violently unstable but sexually confused "regular douche" at Brian's side.

He's funny as that too, the sexual confusion stuff was funny at first but I think they overdo the "he's obviously gay" jokes.

It dosen't really make sense. I mean, HE'S A F*CKING TODDLER, toddlers have no sexual orientation. :laughing:

someonecompletelyrandom 11-03-2009 10:24 AM

That's another thing that makes me laugh about him. He's a baby and he's obviously a baby yet he does things like every other adult and people seem to treat him just as if he were one.


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