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Old 05-01-2015, 01:19 PM   #7521 (permalink)
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Have made a list of all those games and the Tex Murphy ones particularly interest me as I'm really into apocalyptic scenario games. Currently playing Fallout 1 as well which I'm playing before going onto Fallout 2 which I've never played before.

The only issue I have with some of the really old games, is the graphics factor and if they look too old I have problems playing them. I spent ages some time ago playing some of the King's Quest games which suffered from this and were well let's be honest bloody hard as well, so very old graphics and a punishing difficulty make it hard for me to get into the game.

I have remastered (I think) most of the Monkey Island and Broken Sword games and they look and play great.

Also series like Indiana Jones which I played years ago in the 90s interest me, as do the Leisure Suit Larry games which I've never played.
The only thing that bugs me about older games is the lack of an autosave. I am so use to autosave now that I don't even think about manually saving anymore, which is a very dangerous mindset, especially if you're playing Sierra games where you can die by crossing the road.

I find it a little odd though that graphics would bother you though. Like I can get by playing older games because I remember what games use to be like. Some games just don't age well, but the ones that don't I find to be games that were early 3D games like Crash Bandicoot, Silent Hill or Deus Ex. The Hugo games are all pretty ugly too, or at least some scenes are when compared to others.

I might have misspoken though about the Tex Murphy games. They're not really post-apocalyptic like the Fallout games. World War III happened and there are ruins and radiation and mutants and everything, but there's still police, there's still government and conspiracies and commerce.

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Old 05-01-2015, 01:37 PM   #7522 (permalink)
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Also series like Indiana Jones which I played years ago in the 90s interest me, as do the Leisure Suit Larry games which I've never played.
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Old 05-01-2015, 02:11 PM   #7523 (permalink)
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Im also interested in the old leisure suit larry games.
Im into Point and click adventures, the Ps1 had a game like that called Discworld that was great.
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Old 05-01-2015, 03:41 PM   #7524 (permalink)
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I guess in some sense but it's really just superficial and stuck in the trappings of the cyberpunk genre. Grey dull colours, rain all the time, no sanctity for human life, etc. While the story does play as if it has some sort of mystical element going on, there's just as much reason to believe that cyberpunk Neil Gaimen is just crazy.

If you mean a similar feel in terms of gameplay mechanics then no, this is a point and click adventure game.
Dreamweb is good for atmosphere and theme, I think. The story is interesting, if a little cheesy. But man, the game is quite hard to get through without a walkthrough. For example, from what I remember there's lots of items you can pick up in the game, including a bunch you have no use for .. As if the old "try using everything on everything when stuck" wasn't bad enough from before.

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Playing the Secret of Monkey Island again, love those games but they're quite demanding on the puzzle solving element.

Any other point and click you'd recommend, as I know you know a hell of a lot about games?
I love the first two Monkey Island games and have probably completed them more times than any other games I've played. Of course I know them by heart and so that might factor into this, but they don't strike me as particularly hard for adventure games.

Lucasarts had some great point and click titles. After the Monkey Islands, Day of the Tentacle (sequel to Maniac Mansion) is probably my favorite. Sam 'n Max Hit the Road was also good, as was Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.

As for non-Lucasarts titles, I quite liked the first Broken Sword game (murder mystery) and the first two Simon the Sorcerer games (very Discworld-y).

Of later games, I also very much liked The Cat Lady.

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Im also interested in the old leisure suit larry games.
Im into Point and click adventures, the Ps1 had a game like that called Discworld that was great.
.. A game .. Yes, Discworld is that too.

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As for I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream .. the game is a mess. The story and concept is cool, but it's buggy, difficult and slow. I just don't think it plays well. Many horror-themed adventure games had this problem (Dark Seed is another good example).

If you want to play a futuristic, serious mystery thriller, consider trying Lucasarts The Dig instead. It's much better made.
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:59 PM   #7525 (permalink)
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Dreamweb is good for atmosphere and theme, I think. The story is interesting, if a little cheesy. But man, the game is quite hard to get through without a walkthrough. For example, from what I remember there's lots of items you can pick up in the game, including a bunch you have no use for .. As if the old "try using everything on everything when stuck" wasn't bad enough from before.



I love the first two Monkey Island games and have probably completed them more times than any other games I've played. Of course I know them by heart and so that might factor into this, but they don't strike me as particularly hard for adventure games.

Lucasarts had some great point and click titles. After the Monkey Islands, Day of the Tentacle (sequel to Maniac Mansion) is probably my favorite. Sam 'n Max Hit the Road was also good, as was Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.

As for non-Lucasarts titles, I quite liked the first Broken Sword game (murder mystery) and the first two Simon the Sorcerer games (very Discworld-y).

Of later games, I also very much liked The Cat Lady.



.. A game .. Yes, Discworld is that too.

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As for I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream .. the game is a mess. The story and concept is cool, but it's buggy, difficult and slow. I just don't think it plays well. Many horror-themed adventure games had this problem (Dark Seed is another good example).

If you want to play a futuristic, serious mystery thriller, consider trying Lucasarts The Dig instead. It's much better made.
Yeah I tried to brute force my way through the beginning of DreamWeb but it just wasn't happening so I've started using a walkthrough. The demo I played back in the '90's was of the hotel level which had some really well designed puzzles that were logical, but they really stopped caring after that point because the next major puzzle to get into a TV station just involved me killing a security guard. In a way it's kind of a fresh approach, albeit a little perplexing as to why they would make us use subterfuge at the start if the game was just going to devolve into pixel-hunt your way to your target, then murder them.

I do have to agree with the buggy mess that I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is, but I treat it as a game version of a Shakespeare play where you read the page as it was originally written, and then the translated version to understand what he was on about. It's the type of game where I would never recommend someone play it without a guide, because that will just diminish the effect of the story and atmosphere for the player. I think Amnesia: The Dark Descent is also a good example of that, where I don't think there's any inherent shame for using a guide to get through it. It's a horror experience and you can't solve puzzles in real time while being chased by Lovecraftian monstrosities and trying to manage your sanity. It was one of the few things I was grateful for A Machine For Pigs for doing.

As for people's expressed desires to play Leisure Suit Larry... eh I'd say watch a Let's Play. You can seriously die in the first scene for going the wrong way, or for forgetting to wear a condom when having sex with a prostitute. There's also very little instruction on what to do or how to progress the story, so yeah... I'd say LSL is one of Sierra's worst properties that largely got by on the sex appeal.
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The only thing that bugs me about older games is the lack of an autosave. I am so use to autosave now that I don't even think about manually saving anymore, which is a very dangerous mindset, especially if you're playing Sierra games where you can die by crossing the road.
I can remember repeatedly getting killed climbing a tree, because if you didn't click in exactly the right place you kept falling down and dying.

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I find it a little odd though that graphics would bother you though. Like I can get by playing older games because I remember what games use to be like. Some games just don't age well, but the ones that don't I find to be games that were early 3D games like Crash Bandicoot, Silent Hill or Deus Ex. The Hugo games are all pretty ugly too, or at least some scenes are when compared to others.
I'm not overly fussed over graphics but at least want to view something that looks attractive enough to play. You mention Deus Ex a game a number of people rate as one of the best ever games. I've only played the more recent console version of the game and thought it kind of average.

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I might have misspoken though about the Tex Murphy games. They're not really post-apocalyptic like the Fallout games. World War III happened and there are ruins and radiation and mutants and everything, but there's still police, there's still government and conspiracies and commerce.
That's no problem concerning the Tex Murphy games. Also have you heard of the Wasteland games? I don't know much about them but I know they cover the same ground as the Fallout games.

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I love the first two Monkey Island games and have probably completed them more times than any other games I've played. Of course I know them by heart and so that might factor into this, but they don't strike me as particularly hard for adventure games.
That's because you're much smarter than me It's often the case that I'll sit down and say to myself that I'm going to play a lot of Monkey island tonight but then after around 5 mins I'll run into a problem and can't continue, I hate looking at the hints or cheats and just spend like ages trying to work it out, which is kind of sad considering that I have played and completed the games before.

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Lucasarts had some great point and click titles. After the Monkey Islands, Day of the Tentacle (sequel to Maniac Mansion) is probably my favorite. Sam 'n Max Hit the Road was also good, as was Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.

As for non-Lucasarts titles, I quite liked the first Broken Sword game (murder mystery) and the first two Simon the Sorcerer games (very Discworld-y).

Of later games, I also very much liked The Cat Lady.
Most of these games I'm yet to play but know the Broken sword games really well and do consider them easier to complete than the Monkey island games.
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Saints Row III & Saints Row IV

So, while i'm waiting for GTA V patiently to go on sale at some point in the future, I figured I'd pick up two games that I have been rather curious about. I've never actually played any of these games before but they've always looked like so much fun and I feel like it's right up my alley. Especially since i'm a fan of open world games such as this. One of the reviews says "think GTA but on drugs". I figure these games will keep me busy until I see that GTA V has gone on sale. I imagine that's going to be a long time. Very excited to play these though, and for getting them both at 4.99 ea, i'm also saving a **** ton of money. Everybody wins.
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Here's hoping IV isn't as buggy for you as it is for me. If I didn't love that game so ****ing much I'd break it in half.
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Here's hoping IV isn't as buggy for you as it is for me. If I didn't love that game so ****ing much I'd break it in half.
If it's buggy, oh well. It still looks like a great game.
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If it's buggy, oh well. It still looks like a great game.
It is. It has some freezing problems that occur far too often, and in incredibly frustrating ways, but otherwise it's sex. I don't remember hearing about others having my specific problems though, so it might just be that I have an old ass 360.
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