jackhammer

keep The Spoilers To A Minimum Please Guys!

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adidasss

How about you add the *spoilers* tag to the thread name and keep out? We don't have any way to conceal the text and we'd like to discuss the film obviously...

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TheBig3

Oh that, I thought there was a car accident with the wife at the McDonalds or something that I'd forgotten.

I don't think the car accident was for adding to the plot. My interpretation was that Javier (again, sorry) needed again to be shown as a ghost. Whats most important in that scene I think is how he refuses medical help, that money is no object and that he just wanders off.

You hear sirens as he does, he keeps eluding the law, he's supposed to be the degradation that the law can't keep up with these days. Remember...

"They say that in the old days some of those guys [sheriffs] didn't even carry guns...I wonder if theres a place for those men today" (or something like that)

I think that was something to show that you can't catch it and end it, it just keeps going. They never show the other car at all, who drove it, those people never get out, it looked as if they just ran a stop sign which might be another show of carelessness in the modern American. That title means everything in this film. The "old men" they refer to came from a time when people had a stronger sense of dignity and civility and thats gone.

Theres a line where one of the officers says something to TLJ in a dinner "I mean he walks right back into a murder scene and kills a former army captain. what kind of sickness is that."

Everything moves toward the same end in this film, everything is reinforcing that one premise. And the lines between "good guy" and "bad guy" are much blurrier than they should be. Brolan stole all the money and weapons. Javier is trying to get his things back. But you'd never call him the "good guy" and I think thats another piece as well.

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adidasss

Actually you're being surprisingly coherent...

Ok, that makes sense, sort of...although I think Matius has a point there too...plus, I think it was intentional that it happened so suddenly and out of the blue...there has to be a reason. Which is why I think my theory makes some sense too...up till then, we were made to think he was practically invincible...then he almost gets killed in a random car crash...

I understand the point of the film (it's pretty obvious), but I think they still could have at least shown Llewelyn's murder (if they robbed us of the would be climactic showdown between BARDEM and Brolin). He was disposed of as a meaningless side character, and I think it wouldn't have hurt the story and point to give us that much...the bad guys would have still won...*shrug*

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Sparky

you guys over-analyze **** too much. Not everything has a metaphor ya know. Maybe him getting out of a car crash alive was just to make him more bad-ass ya know :P?

jackhammer

Of course you want to discuss the film, but all you needed to do was post a spoiler alert at the top of the posts as is the usual for most internet forums regarding new films. It was just a polite request. It's not out for another two weeks in Britain, so I looked in the thread to see general opinions.

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adidasss

Our apologies my dear man, hope we didn't spoil it too much for you...by revealing everything...

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Sparky

good thing i have it on dvd

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quagmire740

I've heard about the Sopranos type ending, and I don't think I'll mind at all

I actually liked the Sopranos ending, but I'm biased, I've loved the whole series

cardboard adolescent

Finally got around to watching it, and I was blown away. The Coens are really perfecting their art. What I loved most about it: they cut out the main character's death sequence/main action sequence, the way the movie tapers off without any real resolution (much like the Big Lebowski) and the silent intro and outro, which made the movie theatre feel very awkward. Visually stunning, morally ambiguous, and delightfully absurd. Thought I would be disappointed with all the hype but it delivered like a motha****a.