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Old 08-02-2008, 01:29 PM   #101 (permalink)
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im going to answer your post peice-by-piece

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Harvey Dent's character arch is so rushed that it's not believable.
i'll give you that one

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many of the extras are just laughably bad and the dialogue is cringeworthy at points.
im guessing your reffering to the scenes with the ships...if so i would like some further elaboration

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It is also incredibly elementary in its attempts to tackle such themes as post-9/11 society and the moral conundrum Batman finds himself in at the end. It wants the points for exploring these themes, but it addresses them in such a juvenile way that it essentially cheapens them.
i disagree...in my opinion ifsomeone finds the movie refrencing a post-9/11 society they're trying to hard to find a message in the film

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If this is your idea of "fucking brilliance" then you need to see more films.
criticizing my film knowledge again eh? btw hve you even posted anything in the music sections? understand this is music banter not movie banter
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:42 PM   #102 (permalink)
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im going to answer your post peice-by-piece
Oh boy.


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i'll give you that one
Gee thanks.

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im guessing your reffering to the scenes with the ships...if so i would like some further elaboration
I'm reffering to multiple scenes. The townhall meeting, where the extras chant "NO MORE DEAD COPS!", the ship scene where the biggest, meanest looking black convict gets up and tosses out the detonator saying "Ima do what you shoulda done 10 minutes ago", Rachels final scenes. The ridiculously charicatured black gangsters at the beginning of the film. Hardly 10 minutes could pass without some cheesy dialogue sneaking into the film.

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I disagree, if you don't see a blatant and clear comment on post-9/11 society you're either an idiot or willingly closing your eyes to the blunt message Nolan is trying to beat you over the head with. "Bat sonar" clearly parallels the ever increasing invasions of privacy by government institutions in the name of keeping us safe from terrorists (like The Joker), the film even calls the Joker a terrorist. The Joker embodies everything we don't understand about Middle Eastern terrorists. We're told that they commit heinous acts because they hate our freedom, the Joker causes chaos because it's part of his world philosophy, and equally incomprehensible. There are a thousand more parallels and they're equally intentional. Saying that someone is "looking to hard for a message in a film" is a cop out and a lame justification for your shallow and superficial understanding of cinema.


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criticizing my film knowledge again eh? btw hve you even posted anything in the music sections? understand this is music banter not movie banter
What film knowledge?

I also liked how you completely ignored my criticisms of Nolan's camerawork and use of monologue to explain character intentions.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:46 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I also liked how you completely ignored my criticisms of Nolan's camerawork and use of monologue to explain character intentions.
and i like how you ignored my criticism of your use of this forum
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:52 PM   #104 (permalink)
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And with that you ignored every single retort I offered to your rebuttals. Great technique, it saves you from actually having to think or formulate your own opinion.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:55 PM   #105 (permalink)
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And with that you ignored every single retort I offered to your rebuttals. Great technique, it saves you from actually having to think or formulate your own opinion.
maybe you dont remember the first thing i said to you...i'll post it:

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Old 08-02-2008, 02:00 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Yes. See, I have an opinion and you have an opinon. I posted my opinion first, you then quoted me and made clear that my opinion and your opinion were in conflict and asked me to clarify my position. I clarified my position, at which point you again made clear that our opinions were in conflict and offered direct criticisms of my criticisms of the film. I replied by defending my opinions and all the while offering a direct and pointed attack on your opinions. You then took the easy way out by totally ignoring what I've said.

As far as I can tell the ball is in your court pal.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #107 (permalink)
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I liked christian bale's performance better in batman begins. This time he was much more one dimensional. Not to say that Dark Night wasn't awesome - it was a just a very different kind of movie. Batman begins was inspiring, moving and involving. Dark Night was fr**kin rockin, scarey, cool and creepy all at once. Both among my favorite movies.
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:21 PM   #108 (permalink)
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What's with Batman's Voice?

Good thing CNN's on it.
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Old 08-04-2008, 11:59 PM   #109 (permalink)
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What's with Batman's Voice?

Good thing CNN's on it.
Yeah...Batman sounds like he's been smoking 5 packs a day...
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:00 AM   #110 (permalink)
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I feel like the only person who didn't find his voice a big deal at all.
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