No Country for Old Men (Spoilers) (show, quote)

~~yabadabadoo~~ · 12-31-2007, 12:17 AM

Thoughts?

TheBig3 · 12-31-2007, 05:26 PM

I happen to think that its one of the finer pieces of film that has been made in a long time. The Cohen borthers have pulled off one of the tougher feats in adaptive work: the film was better than the novel.

When you read the book it seems like there is a lot of dead space there, things that are left out rather than appearing economical like I believe Cormac McCarthy attempted to have it. Under the Cohen's direction the space leaves quite a bit with Javier (sp?) and the scenes around him working together to create a more power image of the phantom figure and a more haunting and depleted new world for what the "old men" would have to endure.

Everything about the film was nothing short of amazing so I'll skip the obvious points and address what might have been missed.

The shots in this films are relativly standard but every once in awhile they come at an angle that is so much a part of the storyline, and still so novel that you wonder when more films don't pay attention to this one device. The angle of the camera san say so much about what its shooting, or what its not shooting and theres a scene in the hotel where Javier (I should learn his name) and Woody are talking about god knows what and right before the action scene they have a shot thats looking down at an angle and removed about 20 ft. back bringing it out of the scene really. Seeing if from that far away...you have to see it.

The other thing I loved is the reason for Javier (sorry) using the device that he does, I mean you watch this film and you think, "these guys didn't miss a damn thing."

I clearly loved the damn thing.

Sparky · 12-31-2007, 07:49 PM

I loved it.

Only thing i didnt enjoy was the ending, and maybe it's the books fault, but it felt so fast.

I wanted to see more >.<

I kept waiting for tommy lee to kick some ass dammit!

adidasss · 01-01-2008, 03:07 AM

I loved everything apart from the somewhat abrupt way they disposed of the central character....I kept thinking it was just a ploy...and then he didn't come back... Plus I didn't really understand the need for the car crash and Macdonald's (Llewelyn's wife) accent was annoying...minor quibbles really. It was definitely the most intense experience this year in the theater...

TheBig3 · 01-01-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

I loved it.

Only thing i didnt enjoy was the ending, and maybe it's the books fault, but it felt so fast.

I wanted to see more >.<

I kept waiting for tommy lee to kick some ass dammit!

The ending was what sealed it for me. The same way Urban hates Electioneering, I'd have hated a closer ending. It gives too much, it would have been a dumbing down for the masses and I'm glad they stayed away from that.

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I loved everything apart from the somewhat abrupt way they disposed of the central character....I kept thinking it was just a ploy...and then he didn't come back... Plus I didn't really understand the need for the car crash and Macdonald's (Llewelyn's wife) accent was annoying...minor quibbles really. It was definitely the most intense experience this year in the theater...

I don't recall the car crash well enough but I feel like everything in the film had a purpose. The characters weren't really characters (i felt) more vechiles to convey problems, and issues that have crept into America and while they didn't need to dispose of the main character, I think they did that so you could get attached, or think it was a story about a guy who...

It took me about 3 weeks to digest everything I have so far, and I still want to see it twice more just to make sure.

adidasss · 01-01-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

while they didn't need to dispose of the main character, I think they did that so you could get attached, or think it was a story about a guy who...

Hmm, very good point actually...although they got rid of him near the end which is why I felt a little cheated of a resolution...they sucked me into the whole good vs bad thing to the point where I wanted (and expected) the good guy to win...

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It took me about 3 weeks to digest everything I have so far, and I still want to see it twice more just to make sure.

Bardem was driving away near the end and then just got hit by a car suddenly...he was injured then walked away after the boy lent him his shirt. I'm sure they wanted to say something with that, I'm just not sure what it was...perhaps the randomness of destiny? One who plays God is ultimately just a figure himself...? I dunno...

Sparky · 01-01-2008, 01:10 PM

^ i thought it was to show similarity between the killer guy and the one dude he killed(the guy with all the money)

becuase they both offered money to get a new shirt :-/

after writing that it sounds pretty stupid, but they both did it the exact same way.

jackhammer · 01-01-2008, 01:14 PM

Please you are all making me jealous as fúck because I have'nt seen it. Apart from their last two films the Coens filmography is exemplary.

adidasss · 01-01-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by matious

^ i thought it was to show similarity between the killer guy and the one dude he killed(the guy with all the money)

becuase they both offered money to get a new shirt :-/

after writing that it sounds pretty stupid, but they both did it the exact same way.

Ohhh....shit you have a point...I didn't think of that.

adidasss · 01-01-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Please you are all making me jealous as fúck because I have'nt seen it. Apart from their last two films the Coens filmography is exemplary.

You're not reading any of this are you??

12-31-2007, 12:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
~~yabadabadoo~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1	No Country for Old Men (spoilers!) Thoughts?

12-31-2007, 05:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I happen to think that its one of the finer pieces of film that has been made in a long time. The Cohen borthers have pulled off one of the tougher feats in adaptive work: the film was better than the novel. When you read the book it seems like there is a lot of dead space there, things that are left out rather than appearing economical like I believe Cormac McCarthy attempted to have it. Under the Cohen's direction the space leaves quite a bit with Javier (sp?) and the scenes around him working together to create a more power image of the phantom figure and a more haunting and depleted new world for what the "old men" would have to endure. Everything about the film was nothing short of amazing so I'll skip the obvious points and address what might have been missed. The shots in this films are relativly standard but every once in awhile they come at an angle that is so much a part of the storyline, and still so novel that you wonder when more films don't pay attention to this one device. The angle of the camera san say so much about what its shooting, or what its not shooting and theres a scene in the hotel where Javier (I should learn his name) and Woody are talking about god knows what and right before the action scene they have a shot thats looking down at an angle and removed about 20 ft. back bringing it out of the scene really. Seeing if from that far away...you have to see it. The other thing I loved is the reason for Javier (sorry) using the device that he does, I mean you watch this film and you think, "these guys didn't miss a damn thing." I clearly loved the damn thing. __________________ I've moved to a new address

01-01-2008, 03:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	I loved everything apart from the somewhat abrupt way they disposed of the central character....I kept thinking it was just a ploy...and then he didn't come back... Plus I didn't really understand the need for the car crash and Macdonald's (Llewelyn's wife) accent was annoying...minor quibbles really. It was definitely the most intense experience this year in the theater... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

01-01-2008, 01:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Please you are all making me jealous as fúck because I have'nt seen it. Apart from their last two films the Coens filmography is exemplary. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

12-31-2007, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	I loved it. Only thing i didnt enjoy was the ending, and maybe it's the books fault, but it felt so fast. I wanted to see more >.< I kept waiting for tommy lee to kick some ass dammit!

01-01-2008, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	^ i thought it was to show similarity between the killer guy and the one dude he killed(the guy with all the money) becuase they both offered money to get a new shirt :-/ after writing that it sounds pretty stupid, but they both did it the exact same way.