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djchameleon 01-27-2011 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 992271)
I just got back from watching the late show of "Black Swan" with a friend, and I enjoyed the portrayal of the main character's deepening struggles. I also enjoyed squirming and cringing in my seat while trying to distinguish fantasy from reality.

I agree with downwardspiral's, Zero's, and Dr. Seuss's earlier reviews of the movie. Natalie Portman's performance was excellent, although I felt her character's fragility and childlike quality were overdone and thus hard to believe.

Dj, I agree that what was happening *was* obvious in "Black Swan," but I feel the movie was intended to be a study of psyches burdened with expectations and pressures, rather than simply a mystery movie.

See, the same reason that you enjoyed it is the reason I hated it. I didn't like him trying to play with my mind and jumping all the time between fantasy and reality like he was trying to play a trick on me when I already knew what was going on. The longer and more he did it, the more I just wanted it to end and see the credits roll. I don't mind when certain movies do that but the way he did it in black swan was not desirable to me one bit. I understand what the movie was showcasing about pressure of being in a ballet company and showing the type of dedication the dancers need to have.

I didn't mind the ballet dancing in the movie but at times I was trying to understand what he was looking for in her while she was dancing in practice and trying to accomplish the black swan side of the swan queen. I feel like by the end of the movie I understood ballet dancing a bit more because of her final performance and finally understood what the company director/leader was looking for.

Guybrush 01-27-2011 03:25 AM

^djchameleon, reading that, it seems like you view watching a film as engaging in some kind of metal competition with the director that you want to win. :p:

No offense and that's probably not it, I just found the idea kinda funny.

djchameleon 01-27-2011 03:29 AM

maybe i'm just weird but that's usually what happens to me when I watch psychological thrillers and the director is usually trying to get a reaction out of the viewer

VEGANGELICA 01-27-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 992294)
See, the same reason that you enjoyed it is the reason I hated it. I didn't like him trying to play with my mind and jumping all the time between fantasy and reality like he was trying to play a trick on me when I already knew what was going on. The longer and more he did it, the more I just wanted it to end and see the credits roll. I don't mind when certain movies do that but the way he did it in black swan was not desirable to me one bit. I understand what the movie was showcasing about pressure of being in a ballet company and showing the type of dedication the dancers need to have.

I didn't mind the ballet dancing in the movie but at times I was trying to understand what he was looking for in her while she was dancing in practice and trying to accomplish the black swan side of the swan queen. I feel like by the end of the movie I understood ballet dancing a bit more because of her final performance and finally understood what the company director/leader was looking for.

I can see how you might feel toyed with by the "Black Swan," as if the movie were trying to play with viewers' minds. Yet I don't see any other way to present the subject matter to make it interesting. The movie was trying to show *her* view of reality. If it had been a "documentary" type of movie, then it would have lost its key artistic feature: it was trying to show someone's *mind*.

So, I felt "Black Swan" was simply trying to give me a chance to see the world through another person's eyes rather than fool me with a complicated plot, although I understand your perspective.

I agree with you completely, though, that the movie exaggerated how important a dancer's emoting during her performance is. I also agree, like you said, that her performance at the end shows the difference in "feel" between dancing styles. Yet in real life if I'm sitting many rows away from a ballet, I can't see the dancers' faces and I *might* not strongly notice the difference between someone dancing slightly more tentatively (yet beautifully) and someone dancing more aggressively and confidently. Nor would I care.

Without the assumption that this difference in dancing styles is important, however, the whole premise of the movie would fall apart! So, I was willing to suspend disblief in order to submerge myself in the movie's world. Maybe in real life ballet dancing is like that: companies need flamboyant, gripping stars, hoping to rouse patronage of ballet to try to stay afloat financially, which must often be a struggle.

As an aside, one of the previews in the movie theater was for a Metropolitan opera that was going to be shown soon...in 3D! :laughing: Hang on to your hats as a whoosh of 12-year-olds floods the theater for THAT opening! :rolleyes:

My thought was: how pathetic. Opera has been reduced to "going 3-D" in movie theaters to try to get people to watch.

No amount of 3-D-ness is going to make up for the fact that I find the plot of most operas (rather like "Black Swan") to be overly melodramatic and the singing style contrived, stilted, and unappealing (with a few exceptions).

djchameleon 01-27-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 992396)
As an aside, one of the previews in the movie theater was for a Metropolitan opera that was going to be shown soon...in 3D! :laughing: Hang on to your hats as a whoosh of 12-year-olds floods the theater for THAT opening! :rolleyes:

My thought was: how pathetic. Opera has been reduced to "going 3-D" in movie theaters to try to get people to watch.

No amount of 3-D-ness is going to make up for the fact that I find the plot of most operas (rather like "Black Swan") to be overly melodramatic and the singing style contrived, stilted, and unappealing (with a few exceptions).

I think another reason it had that effect on me is because I went into the movie thinking that the reason people loved it was because of some sort of twist at the end. I'm pretty much conditioned to try to solve and figure out twist endings because quite a lot of movies have been using that technique over the past decade or so.

3-D puts kiddies in the seats regardless of content or so they are hoping. lol

The whole 3-D thing that's going on with films wanted to be released in 3-D format is extremely greedy of the movie industry and they are going to start alienating the movie go-ers this way. They are trying to get as much money as they can with fewer ticket purchases.

Raust 01-27-2011 03:47 PM

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It was pretty bad. Andrian Brody and Sarah Polley did a very poor job acting. Other than that it was just ****ed up and stupid.

Dr.Seussicide 01-27-2011 05:22 PM

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I loved this movie. The character development in this superb and it's emotionally enthralling. I'd really recommend this to everyone, definitely worth your time.

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Also a very good movie. Lyndsy Fonseca is so fucking hot btw. But yeah, the action in it was pretty top notch, Hit Girl is fucking insane. I definitely enjoyed it.

bob. 01-27-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 992703)
The Fighter

I loved this movie. The character development in this superb and it's emotionally enthralling. I'd really recommend this to everyone, definitely worth your time.

cool....i'm seriously considering catching this over the weekend

dankrsta 01-27-2011 05:29 PM

I want to see The Fighter too. I heard Bale is mind-blowing in it. And Melissa Leo.

Dr.Seussicide 01-27-2011 05:33 PM

It was actually amazing to him act so well in it, especially considering since he wasn't particularly good in Dark Knight. But he was really good in this one. Amy Adams as well.


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