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Old 11-22-2010, 04:47 PM   #8551 (permalink)
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thats bull****....she had plenty of love in that sac
; but...

Spoiler for the sac:
For her, to love is to hurt, to accept death and eventually destroy. So, in the end, she will need a new love in that sac

The most interesting thing for me was that we've actually seen only glimpses of what was she really like. For the most part we saw his perception of her, his projections, be it his wish or fear. In the first part of the film, we see what is the perfect woman for this lonely, middle aged widower supposed to be - she's young, beautiful, always dressed in white (innocent, pure), obedient, but also mature, insightful with some deep thoughts about accepting death (wow) that he can relate to. And towards the end we see the evil woman who wants to entrap him with her love, to hurt him and strip away his whole being. I think he's afraid that he might love it . But, now seriously, his nightmare really began after the night they spent together or, as implied, he's still in that bed with her, having a nightmare, just after he proposed her and she revealed him some abuse in the past and the need to be loved unconditionally. He was scared ****less, talk about over the top fear. In the end, when she speaks to him, with her neck broken, that's when we hear a poor little girl that just wanted to be loved.


Well, that's how I got it. But, I'll probably watch it again, because the more I think of it, the more complex it gets and just invites you to look at it from different angles. That's a sign of a truly good film, maybe even great.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:38 PM   #8552 (permalink)
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; but...

Spoiler for the sac:
For her, to love is to hurt, to accept death and eventually destroy. So, in the end, she will need a new love in that sac

The most interesting thing for me was that we've actually seen only glimpses of what was she really like. For the most part we saw his perception of her, his projections, be it his wish or fear. In the first part of the film, we see what is the perfect woman for this lonely, middle aged widower supposed to be - she's young, beautiful, always dressed in white (innocent, pure), obedient, but also mature, insightful with some deep thoughts about accepting death (wow) that he can relate to. And towards the end we see the evil woman who wants to entrap him with her love, to hurt him and strip away his whole being. I think he's afraid that he might love it . But, now seriously, his nightmare really began after the night they spent together or, as implied, he's still in that bed with her, having a nightmare, just after he proposed her and she revealed him some abuse in the past and the need to be loved unconditionally. He was scared ****less, talk about over the top fear. In the end, when she speaks to him, with her neck broken, that's when we hear a poor little girl that just wanted to be loved.


Well, that's how I got it. But, I'll probably watch it again, because the more I think of it, the more complex it gets and just invites you to look at it from different angles. That's a sign of a truly good film, maybe even great.
Have you seen Vistor Q by Miike? It's a film that on first glance just seems to be a film to shock but peel the layers back and it's a film that works on so many levels regarding family and their influence on behaviour.

I would like to see it again sometime although it could put a lot of people off.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:50 PM   #8553 (permalink)
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i think out of the Miike films i've seen Visitor Q is my favorite.....by far one of the best "dark" comedies i've ever seen
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:52 PM   #8554 (permalink)
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Have you seen Vistor Q by Miike? It's a film that on first glance just seems to be a film to shock but peel the layers back and it's a film that works on so many levels regarding family and their influence on behaviour.
No, but it's been on my to watch list for a long time. Like Audition, it's a film I've heard a lot about that I feel like I already know it and that puts me off from watching it, I always end up watching something else. But, I'm catching up with these modern Asian films, so I'll probably see it soon.
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Old 11-22-2010, 08:33 PM   #8555 (permalink)
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Ôdishon aka Audition

I've finally watched this film. Hearing so much about it over the years, it felt like I've already seen it and that kind of put me of from actually watching it. I wish I'd seen it when it came out and not knowing anything about it, the impact would've been much stronger, I'm sure. But, nonetheless, it's a pretty good movie and one that would actually benefit from the second viewing, because it's much more complex than it seems at first. Thinking about it, it doesn't really matter what you know about the film going in, hell, the 'twist' is already revealed in posters and taglines. I was actually trying to find the least revealing picture to post here, but since I couldn't I posted the most striking one. Poor little girl, she just wanted to be loved
Ironically watched it the other night myself.

Was good - Not the best of the genre but perfectly good. Well worth the watch if not a little visceral, but thats Miike
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:06 PM   #8556 (permalink)
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I've never seen any Takashi Miike films, I have no idea where to start. Anyone know 3 or 4 of his best films?
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:10 AM   #8557 (permalink)
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This was painful to watch. I guess I'm a masochist
Corrected for you.

I just watched Harry Pothead. It was meh. Like not bad, but not mind blowing either. They missed parts from the book too which always annoys me.

It's like when I watched Angels and Demons, half the characters weren't even presented properly!
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:44 AM   #8558 (permalink)
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Oh, he settled it.
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