3D is fine by me if it was originally intended to be in the movie by the filmmakers. It's when the distribution companies force them to add 3D to it in post-production that the film suffers. And it's not worth double the price at the movie theater either...

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very funny! thanks to this thread.

I don't think it ruins the color of the movie, at least not the new kind of reusable glasses they have now, it dims the color a bit but since I have light sensitive eyes I almost consider that a good thing, you gotta admit it's a huge step forward from the traditional blue and red glasses.

And a 3D movie has never given me a headache ever, and I wear 3D glasses over my prescription ones, you'd think that would strain the hell out of my eyes but it doesn't.

I dunno, maybe because I play video games way more than what's considered healthy for a person so I've built up a special immunity. :laughing:

Also, in response to your comment "if it ain't broke don't fix it", how about, if it IS broke, DO fix it, don't give up on it. 3D is still in an infant stage, Avatar made a big step forward but there's still a long ways to go and one day it will be ridiculously advanced beyond what I can now comprehend.

As for the home experience, it won't be long until HD TV's are made more affordable as consumer demand increases and once all the wealthy people have them already, they will be made more affordable for the lower class. One day the public theater experience will be made obsolete and replaced with home theaters. And at this point 3D will be just as effective on HD TVs as it is at the cineplex.

In some ways this is bothersome because nothing beats the experience of seeing a film in a big theater, but it could also mean that more movies will cater to individuals instead of demographics, and cinema will evolve into an individual experience instead of a collective one, and there's already signs of this, with all the people who view films on their personal computers, more and more people are getting ridiculously picky and discriminating because of the oversaturation of the market and so there is a demand for films that appeal to people the big movie studios never think about.

Once public theaters die, censorship will become more lenient, it would create more diverse markets, filmmakers would be able to experiment more and film studios will start to think more about their consumers as individuals with unique opinions instead of big demographics who all want the same thing.

Now, if you think all of this spells doom for cinema, 3D is really what's keeping the public theater experience alive anyway, so if that's how you prefer to see movies, you should be grateful that the medium exists, it will find a way to survive either way.

Black Dynamite was brilliant and i completely forgot it in the best of 2009 thread :s

As far as the 3D debate goes i have no issue in the cinema. That said i can't think of a film i will be comfortable wearing glasses for just for the sake of that film, let alone shelling out the stupid amount it costs for a 3D tv, considering they've only recently released HD TVs! Give it some time at least...

:laughing: I enjoy your big rants about subjects, you get so into the subject matter. I tend to keep it short and sweet..

I don't play many video games, I spend quite a lot of time on the computer and watching films on my Sammy/Laptop (depending if I have it on DVD or not) and my eyes are usually really good, never needed glasses and rarely get headaches. Soon as I finished watching Alice I got a really bad headache - for someone who rarely gets them it's too much of a coincidence. Surprised it didn't tear your eyes apart. It's been a common theme with 3D the headaches I think.

I'm happy with my films staying ON the screen.
I really don't see the problem with it.
Sky 3D can really fuck off, I don't want to watch Coronation Street and have Betty's fucking hot pot out the screen. It's nice that they're trying to move technology forward but I can't see it getting better. I can just see it getting more popular and much more annoying.

Excuse my ignorance how will having bits and bobs coming at us help with censorship? and how can they think about the consumer as individuals? When making a film would that EVER happen? Or am I missing something?

I think people like the novelty of 3D. To watch it in 3D costs more as well. You always seemed like a traditionalist when it comes to films, I've noticed you're into a lot of 60s films. A lot of Stanley Kubrick's stuff. Surprised that you're all for 3D.

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At long last--I've been meaning to watch this since it came out, but kept... not, for various reasons. But I finally did and I loved it. Brilliant animation and profoundly affecting.
I watched it in the subtitled French, but after looking at the English dub cast list, I'm curious to give it another go that way as well.

Well I dunno, everyone I know who has seen Avatar and Alice had no problem at all.

I don't think so, it will eventually evolve to a point that we won't need glasses for the effect.

I'm talking about the benefits of home theaters replacing cineplexes. That really has nothing to do with 3D, except that 3D would be a big selling point for HD TVs.

I am a traditionalist, nothing will ever beat Harryhausen's kickass stop motion animation, Stan Winston's animatronics and man made/practical effects, organic things tend to be both more aesthetically pleasing and even more convincing. Because they look and feel like things that actually consist of real matter, because they are.

That being said, I can appreciate newer trends, I'm not completely anti CGI, I just don't like how it's replaced everything and how generic so much of it is, but when CGI is done well, I have to give credit where credit is due. The best CGI takes a lot of hard work and shouldn't just be shrugged off simply because it's CGI. I'd still love to see a revival of more traditional effects though.

I'm also an advocate for responsible capitalism and I think 3D is an important tool in helping the film industry grow and as the industry grows there will be more opportunities that the more artistic and ambitious types will be able to pursue.

Is it bad that I never bothered with Avatar? After a few chavs I know of spaffed over it on their Facebook statuses it never appealed to me. I really should watch it now the hype has gone.


Sky 3D is the one that's really pissing me off. Football in 3D, their slogan is it's like being there. I have a season ticket and I can honestly say there is NOTHING like being there. They are just a bunch of twats wearing silly glasses in a pub. But even if we don't need glasses which I admit would be a major break through, but I still don't really see the point. Like someone else said all you'll do is say oh that's cool, I guess.

Meh. Suppose.

At least they're trying to move it on, after colour, sound, computer technology. They could quite easily just say well we've done all we can. So at least they're trying to push things. But I can't help but feel if they do take it any further it isn't going to be as good. I hope I'm wrong and you're right and after they develop 3D it will be an absolutely brilliant thing, revolutionary, life changing, changes the way you see film etc. But right now I just can't see it.
Let's hope in a while when everyone is in love with it after people initially hating it, you can turn round and say you've always loved it. :D

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I dug it. I can kind of see why a lot of people I know didn't, but I did.

Still on my Fellini ride (there's a Fellini festival in one of the theatres)

Yesterday:

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I'm still loving Giulietta Masina, that girl is incredible. I loved the movie. The ending was a bit too dramatised, the film would've done great without the last 7 minutes. Still, truly good.

Today:

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It's about time I watch this one. Luckily, I didn't watch NINE ahead, as all the ones who did, found themselves disappointed by the later.
I'm pretty sure, that movie made his way into my personal top 3. Just beautiful. It just rendered me speechless. I think that is the time I most identified with a character, maybe being a screwed up film-maker myself was the reason why. I don't know what to say about this one, just incredible. Perfect.