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The movie made us look like badasses who quickly became groveling shrews once the real **** went down. The scenes with Ron Eldard as Durant, and his captors tells it all. Scrappy badass?

Actually, makes you seem kinda tough.

So are you just going to ignore the rest of the post? You were wrong about military involvement and maybe you should ask yourself why the hell the they would be involved in a movie that supposedly made them look bad.

Oh and here's a "complete" list of movies produced with Pentagon assistance given by the Pentagon itself. Hamburger Hill and Black Hawk Down are on the list. I might have missed others on your list because it's long and unorganized, and there's no telling if the list actually is complete.

Complete List of Commercial Films Produced with Assistance from the Pentagon | Stephen Underhill - Academia.edu

Calm the **** down, everyone.

Guys I just wanna gush about good movies not have arguments

Opening the floor to people that have seen Hereditary again, because god damn i love that movie

Seeing it today. I have very high hopes.

9/10 m8

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We were chill though. Even Chula was keeping a lid on it.

Go back to Africa.

Agreed. Was enjoying the debate actually.

Bat, I think it's a bit of a stretch between "The Pentagon assisted in making a movie" and "Because of the FOIA, the Pentagon turned over 8 pages of records related to all conflicts after WWII, and some of that info was used in helping to make post WWII war movies more factual".

The Pentagon (Government) spends billions of dollars a year in PR in an effort to make military service seem glorified, even glamorous.

The few, the proud, the marines!!!

The movies I listed all made military service, the military itself, and in some cases, the government look like a nightmare in hell.

Friendly Fire was based on the true story of a fervent antiwar activist for cripes sake.

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We can agree to disagree though if it will help Grindy sleep tonight. :D

We're a pussy forum now and conflicts are deescalated preemptively so **** you all and carry on I guess.

That Vince Vaughn flick is great BTW. I use to have a hard time with him in serious roles, since he built a career on snark and sarcasm. After S2 of True Detective, and now this flick, that's all changed. Dude's a powerhouse.

**** that.

The United States military is not "helping" studios to make movies factual. They leverage their millions/billions of dollars in equipment to force studios to portray the military in a way that they want. If a studio forgoes that Pentagon stamp of approval they need to pay a king's ransom for all of that premium equipment and if they do that then there's a vastly improved likelihood that they won't have the money to make the kind of movie that Black Hawk Down or Saving Private Ryan did. It's much like a band forgoing major label money to make an album without the production quality and distribution network that a major label brings. It's basically hamstringing a movie and many of those movies have suffered in the box office because of it. It's extortion tbh.

Yes. And Hollywood war movies are a legitimate part of this propoganda and if it weren't they wouldn't bother giving the time of day to Hollywood.

There are definitely movies that have foregone the Pentagon stamp of approval and many of them have fallen by the wayside because of it. Movies like Apocalypse Now, Platoon, and Full Metal Jacket have done this and won big due to their refusal to compromise but those are not the rule.

And there's still the issue I and Frown have pointed out that even if a movie doesn't engage in jingoism it still generally portrays soldiers sympathetically, and that's basically all you need to do to make an audience root for soldiers, which all by itself encourages the public to deify the military.

Probably a movie you'll only watch today and never again. It's a very dreadful watch.

When are video game movies gonna kick off the way superhero movies did? :(

Final Fantasy Tactics, MGS, and Overwatch please.

Yeah, because the Warcraft movie was soooo great.

I understand your points. I just don't fully agree with them.

*starts working on improving his cynicism*

There are zero video game movies worth anything at all as far as I know. Well except maybe the first Mortal Kombat movie. It's hilariously cheesy. Most video game movies are self serious and dull. And poorly written. When the second most fun you've had watching a video game movie was watching Uwe Boll's House of the Dead movie, it's time to pack it up for that useless abomination of a sub genre. /grumpy movie snob rant.

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Anway, this evening I finally got around to watching The Name of the Rose. Just ****ing fantastic! Atmosphere in spades and a cleverly written crime mystery, heavily tied in with religious themes. Setting the story in a secluded monastery in the time of the inquisition leads to all sorts of interesting thematic shadings and interesting characters. Lots of memorable actor performances in the movie as well - not just Sean Connery's detective monk. And the soundtrack was perfect for the movie.

9/10 - totally worth watching. I'm certain most of you in here would actually really like it.

Have you read the book?
The movie is retarded, watered down hollywood **** compared to it.
I'm not even one of those books over movies guys, I try to enjoy both on their terms but this is just nah.

No I haven't read the book. As the credits rolled, I actually wondered how much was missing. I think it works really well as a movie, but I'm not surprised if they simplified a lot of things. The way I see it, book adaptations will usually have to skip a lot of things, so they have to succeed on the visuals, atmosphere, etc. For me, the movie did really, really well as a piece of cinema, so to speak.

Warcraft movie sucked.. I didnt make it past the first 30 minutes.

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The last ten minutes of Doom are hella fun though.

Simplifying is fine, especially with something as comlex as an Eco book, but they completely changed the ending to feelgood ****.

I watched it whole and I remember a sense of dreadful mediocrity and not a single thing else.

Not having read the book; the only thing that felt contrived to me to me was Connery's character

I saw the special effects and didn't see any possible way it could have been anything other than absolute garbage. I'm just glad it wasn't a StarCraft movie so I wouldn't have to see my heart ripped out in front of me and ground into a fine powder.

I prefer the second Mortal Combat movie for a reason I've already explained.

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And if I recall correctly, me and Batty agreed that you are wrong

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TBH I don't remember much so my rants are probably 70% bull****.
Still go and read the book. It's glorious and Eco was one of the best writers of the 20th century.

That's some serious slut-chin.

Worthless. The first Sonya is more interesting looking and has a vastly better resting bitch face. And everything else was just more fun. That scene with Reptile fighting Liu Kang was masterful in showing that the movie had no interest in being a movie when it had the opportunity to make people hit each other more.

I'm so bad at reading novels. Usually, I put in a bookmark a few chapters in and fail to return for 1½ years. At this point, I exclusively read non-fiction. I get my fiction through movies and comic books instead, like the pleb that I am.

Same with me lately but I still try to act all superior and well-read.

I'd do that too, but then people see my unimpressive, tiny bookshelf, entirely dwarfed by my two well-stuffed comic book shelves. I once owned a big, fat Shakespeare collection. Made me feel very well educated and smart until I tried to read any of it. Then I sold it.

You clearly don't read enough comic books or we'd trade recs more often.

*sniff*

I don't read them as often as I used to. But I bought a few less than a week ago. It's just that it's mostly comic strips and European comics of various kinds (Bilal, Manara, Schuiten, Rosínski etc.). No superhero books at all (EDIT: Except Watchmen). I also have some American comics, but they're all graphic novels like Black Hole, Abandoned Cars, Maus and other misc. stuff like that.

I have an e-reader as an excuse.

She looks like she'd cut your dick off with a dull, rusty knife if you missed her birthday.

This happens to be something I'm not into.

I'm not into the act, but I'm into the look.