Yeah, before I saw that all I heard was how funny it was, then I watched and mostly found it just pretty depressing.

Rachel Getting Married.

You know, I can see the legitimacy of the criticisms I've heard of this (lack of focus, too reliant on shaky handheld cameras, weird edits, over-moralizing, etc). It's definitely not perfect, but I dunno. I understand the point of that--there's a sort of... ambience to it; the narrative becomes a thread inside a hazy but emotionally charged space, which is what experiences like that actually feel like.

I dug it.

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I have to say am disappointed with ONG BAK 2... It was entertaining. But I was expecting more breaking and stomping, not to say there wasnt some. But from Ong bak 1 and Tom yum goong had me gasping from the beginning to end with all the stunts. Plus Ong Bak 2 story really really really pissed me off, I wasnt expecting the best thing since Shawshank but I was expecting to be satisfied with the end.

I don't think it's depressing at all, I thought it was very touching and inspiring, these are two guys who really enjoy what they do, they set a goal for themselves and eventually succeed, what's to be depressed about?

I don't think the intention was "ooh look at these two losers make a sh*tty horror movie, laugh at them", I think Chris Smith just found them to be two very interesting, likable guys, and they are.

I love this movie, but to each his own I guess.

I'm with you tore. That movie was just a straight up winner. I think I'll have to buy it, because I feel like it's something I'll randomly crave watching every few weeks. Most memorable lines off the top of my head:

"Euphoria, shut the **** up. I know that was you, I ain't even gotta look..."
"I swear on the ghost of Abraham Lincoln I'm coming to emancipate and proclomate on your ass!"
"Ha-HA! I threw that **** before I walked in the room!"

Well part of it for me was I didn't find Mark Borchardt to be particularly likable and found his effect on the people around him to be pretty depressing. I'm not saying I didn't like the movie, in fact I liked it quite a bit. I just didn't think it was particularly funny and I certainly didn't see anything inspiring about it.

I don't understand you at all.

It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen, the scene where they are recording screams or the scene where Mark has to keep doing retakes with his uncle, it still makes me laugh no matter how many times I see it.

It's been about nine years since I watched it so I don't remember it in great detail, but I know I found the kitchen cabinet part and his pronunciation of "coven" kind of funny. The section where Uncle Bill keeps screwing up his lines was funny until you realize that he clearly suffers from dementia, which of course makes Mark Borchardt look kind of predatory with the amount of money he's mooching off of him. That hardly qualifies it as "one of the funniest movies I've ever seen" though, especially when the rest of it is just downright depressing.

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I do think there are things about it that are sad and depressing, the guy does have some serious flaws, but everybody has flaws, Mark seems like a very desperate guy, I can see that being depressing, but I share his enthusiasm as an inspiring filmmaker, that's what drives the whole film for me and I found myself rooting for him even if I found some of the things he did to be questionable and even if he isn't terribly talented.

I can make a sure bet his films are better than anything Cassavetes has ever done though, I know that's not saying much.

I know you have some kind of grudge against John Cassavetes but having never seen any of his movies I have no idea whether or not Mark Borchardt is a better filmmaker than him. I will say that from what I remember Borchardt's movies looked pretty awful.