They were yeah.

The Colosseum is such a great building as well, I was thinking how good it would be to restore it and host events in it again.

A few Ridley Scott movies that not everyone has seen but should:

Legend
A Good Year
1492: Conquest of Paradise
Kingdom of Heaven (the 40+ minutes longer director's cut that pretty much makes it a good movie)

Doesn't that have Orlando Bloom? I can't stand watching that piece of wood not act. He's nowhere near pretty enough to get away with being so talentless.

*I think Jacob's Ladder succeeds as suspenseful and mysterious non linear story that serves to scramble your brain the first time and reassemble it the next time. Like Mulholland Drive. Jacob's Ladder is good when you combat it strictly as a film, it's put together well and has real cool elements. It's an original presentation of s totally unoriginal idea. The whole "Am I dead?" thing is super cliche, but in all fairness I'm just a young hooligan and I wasn't there to experience it when it hit the scene

I drew a Pi comparison because they both hit me nearly the same way, mildly, but Jacob's Ladder does have wayyy more substance. Sure Pi is cool and original but it is so damn frail. I imagine its a move more about themes than plot/conflict, because even what little traces of those it has are pretty whatever, and the pursuit is uneventful. Plus both have protagonists that I'm not too ecstatic about. In Pi's case, it isn't bad character development at all. He just comes off as confrontationally pretentious and reclusive in his goals and sometimes he makes it hard to like him. But then at the same time, he's obviously a damaged individual that calls for sympathy, the headache/anxiety sequences are super intense, like he's experiencing a pain much worse than we even comprehend as simple film viewers. I'd say that he's a person you might not like much, or just totally hate, but you're rooting for him all the same. Jacob's Ladder's protagonist is just kinda bland.

That's what I think, prep yer lynch mobs

Yes, it's Orlondo Bland doing his usual plank impression, but I think the movie works regardless. There's a lot of other memorable characters in the movie and a lot of what felt thin and shaky in the cinematic release is a lot more fleshed out now.

Blade Runner
Alien
American Gangster
Black Hawk Down
Prometheus
Alien: Covenant

I watched Moonlight last night.

Not sure about this. I was expecting something amazing based off the ratings and I would describe it as just OK. The way it's filmed is great but it's a bit boring and the ending is ridiculous.

6/10 from me.

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It has good pacing but I agree that the movie was not very compelling outside of the first act. The scene where the kid is asking "what's a ***got?" is a really moving and powerful one, and it was probably what won it the Oscar.

He's got a point though, that ending is a bit ridic.

It had it's moments and yeah the first act was probably the best. I don't like films being split into multiple acts though.

If you have any suggestions for actually good films (from whatever era but preferably 90s onward) I'd be open to recs but please don't suggest things that are the Trout Mask Replica of the film world for the sake of it.

The last film I watched and really liked was ET.

lol pretty much every film as 3-4 acts, it's a way to describe general structure. I get what you mean though.

Have you seen In Bruges? I can't recommend that one enough. For TMR watch Eraserhead and The Color of Pomegranates.

I meant the way it's split into chapters and jumps through different stages. Something like Shawshank is like a continuous journey through the story line if you get me.

Probably film terminology that I'm not getting but I'm not really into films so burn me at the stake tbh.

No but I'm not sure it looks like something I'd enjoy.

watch drive

Ja I get what you mean, just pointing out the terminology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_structure

In Bruges is clever, easy to follow, and dark. It's got murder, chases, fat Americans, midgets, drugs, everything. Just watch it boi, that was my light rec.

But if I haven't convinced you and you want something a little more Shawshanky, maybe Good Will Hunting or Million Dollar Baby are more up your alley.

Well I will watch it then. It had better be good.

Q-Man I'll give yours a go tomorrow.

It's like a refined Guy Ritchie film, if you've ever seen any of those.

I don't think so. You mean them Cockney gangster films? Or am I way off.

Yes. Snatch and Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels were the ones I had in mind. Similar type of humour presented in a much more understated way.

Yeah those too. I'd expect most of those movies to be movies that most people have seen.
At least most people of the sort who watches a lot of movies.

Blade Runner and Alien are some of my favorite movies.
I probably like Prometheus and Alien: Covenant more than most too.
That had their flaws but eh... whatever.

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That whole mid section of Covenant where David is acting like and oddball: Loved it!

You'd be surprised by just how many people I know in real life who haven't seen Alien.

I should defo watch In Bruges again watched it once when it came out, thought it was ****, seems like the kind of film I'd enjoy alot more the second time around

You just can't beat the racist (no I'm not just using the term lightly), coked out midget scene. I'm a huge fan of the use of motifs in the movie, which will probably be a little more apparent on further viewings.

If it's mostly people over 40-45 or so, I wouldn't find it unusual. If they're younger than that, then what have they been doing with their lives?
I think most people I know under that age must have seen it.

One odd thing though: I have this PC gamer friend who's 30, a big fan of anything Deus Ex or cyberpunk and also that Blade Runner PC game. He hadn't ever seen the actual Blade Runner movie until last year... I had to pester him to watch it, and then he just said he thought it was boring. I didn't even know what to say to him!

Yeah, I'll defo give it another go in the near future

You forgot funny as hell. Also extremely moving at times.

Filed under clever.

While poignant in terms of character development, I see that scene as more hilarious than anything because of the irony of it all.

I'm just never going to understand you.

Clever does in no way equal funny.

One hit man, actually developing empathy for another hit man, does not equal irony. The slow build towards the moment when Farrell breaks down to Gleeson is brilliant. YMMV.

I both LOL'd and welled up. That works for me as far as movie making and story telling goes.

Good grief the recs you are getting. People that are into films cream their pants over but for some more light hearted fare go with.

Shoot Em Up
The Inside Man
Identity
Wanted
Children of Men which is kind of artsy but still worth the watch.

The humour is witty is what I'm getting at, but go ahead and fight me on what my own opinions are if it gets you off, I don't give a ****.

Fair enough on the irony bit. We're just looking at it from two different angles.

(assuming I get what you were saying)

I don't see anyone discussing weird Russian art-house movies. I did see Alien, In Bruges and other straight forward genre movies get a mention.

But you're right, Children of Men is a lot more light hearted and simple than a series of movies about aliens that likes to impregnate and kill various spaceship crew members for giggles.

And you don't have to be pretentious to think that Wanted was a gimmicky pile of garbage.

Even the source material sucked.

Did Morgan Freeman say **** in the source material?

No but I think he said *******.

Did you not see the note after the Children of Men rec. It is right in line with all the other stuff being suggested.

Driver? Pffft

1978 or do you mean Baby Driver?

I think Q suggested the one which just a soundtrack and barely any dialogue.

Baby Driver looks awesome though. I regret going to see Transformers 5 over it.