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Old 09-13-2009, 10:26 AM   #4091 (permalink)
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I saw Nine a few days ago and was not impressed. It had a great plot to begin with, but I suppose keeping a storyline like that simple enough for children to understand as well is quite a task. Oddly enough, last night I had dreams about a society run by machines.
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:44 AM   #4092 (permalink)
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hmm, I woke up into a society run by machines.
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Old 09-13-2009, 02:35 PM   #4093 (permalink)
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Can we please establish that the use of "the" is extraneous. Both the movie and comic are titled "Watchmen". For some reason incorrect addition of "the" to movies and bands really annoys me.

As for whether or not Watchmen was good or not, and a true adaption of the comic etc ... if it weren't for the soundtrack and Rorschach I probably would've turned it off. It took two attempts to read the comic because it's just so bland. "Reasonable", interesting characters included: The Comedian, Joker, Sally Jupiter and (sometimes) Silk Spectre. The rest were all too synthetic and shockingly lacking in depth to find their screen/page time enjoyable in the slightest. Dan/Silk/John triangle was about as enjoyable and believable as the latest Harry Potter movie (which watched like a nauseating romcom with appalling actors who aren't even used to being terrible romcom actors), John's monologues are a bombastic and tedious rants that go on ad verbatim until you have to put the book down otherwise you'll end up with drool smudging the next morning from where you've fallen asleep on it. The entire theme and message is just so damn ridiculous it loses relevance to modern times and events to the extent that you wonder why the hell you bothered spending so long reading to the end. P.S. where the FUCK was my Goliathic squid?! So, good port bad movie, bad comic. If it'd been set in the same universe but written about anything but the climatic demise, and probably focussed more on Rorschach and the other characters given a level of depth it could've been brilliant. Well done Moore, you verbose git.

Although in Moore's favour, V for Vendetta is a simply superb read. It gives the characters enough depth to believe their motivations, the events are fantastical enough to make the story interesting and keep the plot pacey and the events maintain enough grounding in reality and peoples subconscious fears ever since the rise of totalitarianism that it had (and quite possibly always will have) a deep moral for modern times. As a port from comic the movie was abysmal and messed too much with events and chronology to call it true-to-comic. However it's still a thoroughly enjoyable movie in it's own rights and with the comic has remained steadily amongst my favourites for some time.

On the general subject of comic/movie couplings, I'm not sure if Batman will count as the movies aren't based on specific single graphic novels but the majority of them will hold a place in my heart (sorry, George, but you've never been brooding, deranged and reckless). Wanted was well ... if you read the graphic novel after having watched the movie you'll cry for lost potential, and if you watch the movie after having read the novel you'll want to throw your TV out the window. Hollywood bollocks. Sin City was a movie I greatly enjoyed and was beautifully and thoughtfully directed with an incredible use of palette and colours. Haven't read the comic unfortunately.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:09 AM   #4094 (permalink)
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:11 AM   #4095 (permalink)
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I really enjoyed this movie, until the very ending. The beginning reminded me of World of the Worlds...well, what it would have been had the aliens/robots not gotten sick and died. 7/10
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:33 AM   #4096 (permalink)
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I watched the entire LOTR trilogy on TNT yesterday, so that was basically my whole day.

Great films, all of them. Now I'm really hyped for The Hobbit.

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Well, a lot of critics complain that it's too faithful to the comic.

Basically, if you're not faithful enough to the source material you alienate it's fanbase, but if you're too faithful then the movie has no reason to exist.

Most great comic book movies took some liberty from the comics and implemented their own original ideas.

Spiderman 2 did it by changing some things about Dr. Octopus's origin story but these changes helped make the character more tragic and sympathetic, Iron Man did it to make the story more modern and resonant with it's more political themes, and the first two Superman movies avoided the more complex plot elements from the comics to keep things simple. So a lot of times making a few changes are for the better.

Burton pissed off some Batman purists for this reason but IMO I liked a lot of his ideas better than what originated from the comic. Batman Begins and Dark Knight made a lot of changes from the comics too, more than the Burton films in fact, so I find it hypocritical that people go apesh*t over these movies while refusing to give Burton credit for anything just because he had his own vision, especially when his films along with the Frank Miller comic played such a big role in redefining the Batman universe as how we see it today.
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Superman 2 did it by changing some things about Dr. Octopus's origin story but these changes helped make the character more sympathetic, Iron Man did it to make the story more modern and resonant with it's more political themes. The first two Superman movies avoided the more complex plot elements from the comics to keep things simple.
Funny, I don't remember Dr. Octopus being in Superman 2.
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I caught the last half of this hysterically bad Australian movie called The Time Guardian last night. Worth watching if you're stoned and want a laugh, this movie features sad cameo appearances by Dean Stockwell and Carrie Fisher. To give you an idea of the quality of the movie, here's the trailer:

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I watched the greatest film of all time on Saturday, had a few mates over to celebrate my birthday over a few drinks.

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