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djchameleon 03-18-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1429170)
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I've only watched it the once, but I missed these plot holes. Car to elaborate? I plan on watching it again just because I'll know exactly what to expect this time around so I'd like to know some things to watch for.

Spoiler for Plotholes so big you can drive a truck through:
The main one that I remember off hand was specifically about her squid baby. Elizabeth’s squid-fetus, meanwhile, has grown to monstrous proportions despite being locked in a small room with no sources of food or other places for the additional mass to have come from.

I feel like I have to re-watch it now because I know there are other ones.

Also a lot of these little questions. Why did the Engineers show a star-map to their weapon facility instead of their home planet? Why were the Engineers running away from a threat to go inside the cargo room instead of another non-dead-end option? What happened to the other alien ships? Did the threat attack all the alien ships at the same time to make it impossible for one of them to escape? Why was there still one living Engineer inside the spaceship? Wouldn’t the threat kill him too? The alien spaceships have been underground for more than 2000 years; did no one back home want to see what happened? Why did Janek not care at all about the 2 scientists trapped inside the alien cave? What is the purpose of those random pixelated flashbacks of the Engineer crew running? Why was everyone so relaxed about finding out the biggest revelation of human history? And why, oh why was there a goddamn flute to activate the alien ship?

Another thing, I don't think it was so clear cut that they wanted to destroy their own creations because they were scared of what they created. It seems like there is some other reason behind them wanting to exterminate all life. I read an interview where the director said that most of the unanswered questions in the plot will be resolved in the sequel but he likes the way the film leaves certain questions unanswered because he wasn't completely sure if they would be approved for a sequel. The script for it is done though it was completed last year in Oct.

The Batlord 03-18-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1429207)
Spoiler for Plotholes so big you can drive a truck through:
The main one that I remember off hand was specifically about her squid baby. Elizabeth’s squid-fetus, meanwhile, has grown to monstrous proportions despite being locked in a small room with no sources of food or other places for the additional mass to have come from.

I feel like I have to re-watch it now because I know there are other ones.

Also a lot of these little questions. Why did the Engineers show a star-map to their weapon facility instead of their home planet? Why were the Engineers running away from a threat to go inside the cargo room instead of another non-dead-end option? What happened to the other alien ships? Did the threat attack all the alien ships at the same time to make it impossible for one of them to escape? Why was there still one living Engineer inside the spaceship? Wouldn’t the threat kill him too? The alien spaceships have been underground for more than 2000 years; did no one back home want to see what happened? Why did Janek not care at all about the 2 scientists trapped inside the alien cave? What is the purpose of those random pixelated flashbacks of the Engineer crew running? Why was everyone so relaxed about finding out the biggest revelation of human history? And why, oh why was there a goddamn flute to activate the alien ship?

Another thing, I don't think it was so clear cut that they wanted to destroy their own creations because they were scared of what they created. It seems like there is some other reason behind them wanting to exterminate all life. I read an interview where the director said that most of the unanswered questions in the plot will be resolved in the sequel but he likes the way the film leaves certain questions unanswered because he wasn't completely sure if they would be approved for a sequel. The script for it is done though it was completed last year in Oct.

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Ah. I noticed a few of those, like the alien ships still on the planet and the apparent lack of a response from the alien home world. And yeah, a lot of the pixel hologram bits were convenient plot devices, but they were meant to show that the aliens had lost control of their creations, which makes it pretty obvious why they would want to destroy humanity as well, since if the weaponized life forms (I'm guessing that whatever they used to create us was an unweaponized form of what created the creatures) turned on them then they couldn't be sure about us. I think this was made kind of explicit when the redhead scientist got so terrified of the alien fetus inside of her. Just like the aliens she had seen what the creatures were capable of and wanted to kill the thing inside of her for much the same reasons as the aliens wanted to kill us.

I think it may have actually been kind of a Noah's Ark thing. Maybe some sort of rebellion or somesuch, as if we had turned away from them like the humans supposedly did to God in the Bible, and so the aliens decided to purge humanity. If you remember the scene near the end when the spaceship crashes and it starts to roll on the ground, at one point the horse shoe ends of the ship point directly upward, and maybe I'm reaching but the ship had a very Ark-like appearance for a moment.

And I have no idea why the map showed the star system for the facility and not the alien home system. Again, convenient plot device.

Another thing that bothered me was the old guy. What exactly did it add to the story to have him still alive at the end? Seemed like just a convenient reason to have the android guy have a hidden agenda. Otherwise it was pointless.

djchameleon 03-18-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1429217)
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Ah. I noticed a few of those, like the alien ships still on the planet and the apparent lack of a response from the alien home world. And yeah, a lot of the pixel hologram bits were convenient plot devices, but they were meant to show that the aliens had lost control of their creations, which makes it pretty obvious why they would want to destroy humanity as well, since if the weaponized life forms (I'm guessing that whatever they used to create us was an unweaponized form of what created the creatures) turned on them then they couldn't be sure about us. I think this was made kind of explicit when the redhead scientist got so terrified of the alien fetus inside of her. Just like the aliens she had seen what the creatures were capable of and wanted to kill the thing inside of her for much the same reasons as the aliens wanted to kill us.

I think it may have actually been kind of a Noah's Ark thing. Maybe some sort of rebellion or somesuch, as if we had turned away from them like the humans supposedly did to God in the Bible, and so the aliens decided to purge humanity. If you remember the scene near the end when the spaceship crashes and it starts to roll on the ground, at one point the horse shoe ends of the ship point directly upward, and maybe I'm reaching but the ship had a very Ark-like appearance for a moment.

And I have no idea why the map showed the star system for the facility and not the alien home system. Again, convenient plot device.

Another thing that bothered me was the old guy. What exactly did it add to the story to have him still alive at the end? Seemed like just a convenient reason to have the android guy have a hidden agenda. Otherwise it was pointless.


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I am definitely going to have to re-watch this tonight or at least tomorrow. Yeah the android guy testing the black goo on her bf. I don't know. If he wanted to test what reaction it would have on humans, why wouldn't he do it in a controlled environment on a sample of human tissue so he could learn from it instead of just poisoning her bf and letting him run rampant without caring about the results. Also those two guys getting lost in the alien cave just made me sigh so heavily. There is no way they should have gotten lost.

BastardofYoung 03-18-2014 09:51 PM

http://flickfacts.com/posters/tt0117666.jpg

I had a friend who had never seen this movie. So I re-watched it with him seeing it for the first time as well.

Still one of my favorite movies of all-time. The performances are all top notch, and the story is very moving. I still dig it, and will have to watch it many many more times.

Key 03-19-2014 01:09 AM

Mouse Hunt

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._hunt_ver4.jpg

I saw this movie had shown up on Netflix and I just had to watch it. I probably watched it at least 200 times as a kid, and I still love it. Easily one of my all time favorite movies with two of my still favorite actors. Definitely one worth a watch if you've never seen it because it's just a simple concept made in a pretty good fashion.

The Batlord 03-19-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1429223)
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I am definitely going to have to re-watch this tonight or at least tomorrow. Yeah the android guy testing the black goo on her bf. I don't know. If he wanted to test what reaction it would have on humans, why wouldn't he do it in a controlled environment on a sample of human tissue so he could learn from it instead of just poisoning her bf and letting him run rampant without caring about the results. Also those two guys getting lost in the alien cave just made me sigh so heavily. There is no way they should have gotten lost.

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Yeah, the getting lost thing was pretty cringe worthy. Like I said, that whole scene, while having its moments, changed the tone of the movie for me. It went from cool sci fi movie to creature feature. And the way they did it was so SyFy Channel monster movie. Oh the two guys who nobody cared about, one of whom was a jerk and smoked weed, are lost? Gee, I wonder what's going to happen to them?

And the boyfriend who turns into the monster was probably the worst part of the movie. I was waiting for some kind of mind bending weirdness that would at least attempt to have me questioning life, the universe, and everything, but all I got was a cheesy monster fight scene.

Funny. I actually liked the movie and I here I am listing everything that sucked about it.

bob. 03-19-2014 01:00 PM

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Nymphomaniac Volume 1

as always with his films.....i am

A.
at a loss for words....at least when it comes to expressing myself via text and not speech

B.
emotionally and damn near physically drained (i have volume 2 but honestly need to let this settle before watching it)

C.
in absolute awe of what an amazing director he is.....and how he truly does not get the credit he deserves

also i really do not want to ruin any of this for the few of you who have been as excited about these films as i have

but i will say this

this goes well beyond what i was expecting.

Janszoon 03-19-2014 04:14 PM

That's a fantastic movie poster.

And your new avatar is hilarious.

bob. 03-19-2014 05:14 PM

Thanks man:beer:

The Batlord 03-20-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1429634)
And your new avatar is hilarious.

Yeah I noticed it as soon as I saw one of his posts today and thought, "Duuuuude..."

bob. 03-20-2014 11:47 AM

what's weird is how much i have to explain it to people.....i mean i know ET is kind of a shitty movie....but i thought that scene was pretty iconic :)

The Batlord 03-20-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1429848)
what's weird is how much i have to explain it to people.....i mean i know ET is kind of a shitty movie....but i thought that scene was pretty iconic :)

I'm pretty sure I've only ever seen ET when I was far too young to remember it, but I still know that particular part like the back of my hand.

BastardofYoung 03-20-2014 11:57 AM

I think that particular part has been drilled into the heads of people so much that it is impossible not to know it, even if you do not know E.T.

It was parodied many times (Pee Wees Big Adventure springs to mind) and served as the logo for Amblin entertainment (Animaniacs alone shows how much it is known). Which put out so many tv shows and films it is impossible to not know it.

djchameleon 03-20-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1429848)
what's weird is how much i have to explain it to people.....i mean i know ET is kind of a shitty movie....but i thought that scene was pretty iconic :)

Explain it to people? By that I am assuming you have the design on a shirt yes?

Pretty cool shirt.

LoathsomePete 03-21-2014 08:43 AM

http://www.viewaskew.com/mallrats/im.../mallratsc.jpg

Mallrats (1995)

Didn't care much for the story but there was some great dialogue throughout this movie.

Engine 03-21-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1430088)

Mallrats (1995)

Didn't care much for the story but there was some great dialogue throughout this movie.

I liked it more than Clerks. And a LOT more than Chasing Amy.


I just watched a couple e-sports documentaries:

http://cdn.dota2.com/apps/dota2/imag.../ftp_cover.jpg

This is about a Dota 2 tournament and it's a really good documentary in general. I don't care at all about this type of game but it's a good film.

I also watched the entire Smash Brothers documentary series, and it was pretty addictive. I didn't even know such a cult surrounded SSB Melee, but now I do and I understand why.

BastardofYoung 03-21-2014 10:05 PM

Really? I loved Clerks the most.... probably because I worked both those jobs and it rang more true to me.

Chasing Amy is a close second. I thought out of the New Jersey trilogy that Mallrats was the weakest.

Engine 03-21-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1430304)
Really? I loved Clerks the most.... probably because I worked both those jobs and it rang more true to me.

Chasing Amy is a close second. I thought out of the New Jersey trilogy that Mallrats was the weakest.

My only problem with Clerks is that the actors were so amateur/unpracticed at the time, and it's so dialogue heavy, that it almost felt like I may as well have just been reading the script to myself. I've grown to like the film though.

Chasing Amy just really annoyed me. I didn't like the characters and I thought Amy wasn't worth chasing at all.

djchameleon 03-22-2014 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430305)
My only problem with Clerks is that the actors were so amateur/unpracticed at the time, and it's so dialogue heavy, that it almost felt like I may as well have just been reading the script to myself. I've grown to like the film though.

Chasing Amy just really annoyed me. I didn't like the characters and I thought Amy wasn't worth chasing at all.

That's the charm of the film to me. It gives it a sense of it being similar to just recording your friends having a conversation.

Frownland 03-22-2014 01:23 PM

I watched In Bruges yesterday and loved it. There's some hysterical dark humour in it, and I really like the unique characters in it. It's got a heavy Coen brothers influence and that definitely is not a bad thing. I would highly suggest watching this one.

Engine 03-22-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1430349)
That's the charm of the film to me. It gives it a sense of it being similar to just recording your friends having a conversation.

Yeah, I agree. It took me several times watching it over the years to warm up to it though. I originally thought all of the actors were pretty bad at delivering their lines. Just sounded phony.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1430449)
I watched In Bruges yesterday and loved it. There's some hysterical dark humour in it, and I really like the unique characters in it. It's got a heavy Coen brothers influence and that definitely is not a bad thing. I would highly suggest watching this one.

Agreed. I saw that in the theater just b/c it looked semi-interesting and it turned out to be a really good film. Excellent performances

Janszoon 03-22-2014 01:46 PM

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Frozen
I'm not sure why this movie is getting all the buzz it's getting. Not saying it's bad but it's just a sort of regular Disney movie. It had a few nice touches that might have made me rate it more highly but they were undercut by the presence of the frequent, terrible showtunes that took me right out of the movie.

BastardofYoung 03-22-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430456)
Yeah, I agree. It took me several times watching it over the years to warm up to it though. I originally thought all of the actors were pretty bad at delivering their lines. Just sounded phony.



Agreed. I saw that in the theater just b/c it looked semi-interesting and it turned out to be a really good film. Excellent performances

The only one I thought was dreadful was the woman who did the detective work after the dead dude in the bathroom scene. She made trying to seem natural seem bad.

Janszoon 03-22-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1430471)
The only one I thought was dreadful was the woman who did the detective work after the dead dude in the bathroom scene. She made trying to seem natural seem bad.

She's so bad it's kind of hilarious though.

djchameleon 03-23-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1430461)

Frozen
I'm not sure why this movie is getting all the buzz it's getting. Not saying it's bad but it's just a sort of regular Disney movie. It had a few nice touches that might have made me rate it more highly but they were undercut by the presence of the frequent, terrible showtunes that took me right out of the movie.

Yeah, even though you addressed it near the end. It isn't really a typical regular Disney movie. It was more of a musical. If you aren't into musicals/plays then you won't like it. Also, I think the hype is warranted. The main song that everyone loves from it is a great song for little girls or anyone really to attach themselves too and be obsessed with. It has a great empowerment message behind it.


I finally got around to seeing Hangover 3 last night and it felt like having relatives come to visit and overstay their welcome. I'm so glad that is the last movie. They probably shouldn't have even made it to be honest. I was just so tired of all of those characters and the funny wasn't really there. I only chuckled a few times at certain lines but things that I'm pretty sure they thought was super funny left me with a deadpan face. I'm so glad I didn't pay money to see it in the theaters.

Janszoon 03-23-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1430597)
Yeah, even though you addressed it near the end. It isn't really a typical regular Disney movie. It was more of a musical. If you aren't into musicals/plays then you won't like it. Also, I think the hype is warranted. The main song that everyone loves from it is a great song for little girls or anyone really to attach themselves too and be obsessed with. It has a great empowerment message behind it.

Typical Disney movies are musicals though, and I like a lot of them. I just found the music so bad it was distracting in this one.

djchameleon 03-23-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1430600)
Typical Disney movies are musicals though, and I like a lot of them. I just found the music so bad it was distracting in this one.

I felt like the music in this one was far more than normal though. I don't feel like it was the typical Disney fare.

Janszoon 03-23-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1430603)
I felt like the music in this one was far more than normal though. I don't feel like it was the typical Disney fare.

You may be right that there were more songs or something. It definitely felt like they were singing every two seconds.

djchameleon 03-23-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1430608)
You may be right that there were more songs or something. It definitely felt like they were singing every two seconds.

:laughing::clap:

that's exactly how it felt.

simplephysics 03-23-2014 06:08 PM

Unsure as to how I've managed to avoid watching it until now, but I just saw The Blair Witch Project for the first time last night, at least in its entirety... and it scared the living **** out of me! Or should I say, the ending scared the **** out of me, up until that point I found everything to be pretty mildly frightening. Mostly, I was just annoyed with the bickering between characters, the female in particular. She was just unbearable, and not likable in the slightest sense. Anyways, I have a pretty low tolerance for the horror genre, so the point while they were in the house and all the anticipation that was built around the ending REALLY got to me. Freaked me the hell out. Words cannot describe. I'm sure there are people out there that completely despise this film and all the ****ty 'found footage' films that have followed in its footsteps, but it certainly worked on me.

BastardofYoung 03-23-2014 06:29 PM

I like The Blair Witch Project. But I find it is a one time scare deal, once you know the twists and what happens, it loses impact. So the replay value is low on it to me. But yeah, it scared me the first time I saw it. I remember having to pause it and take a break at the part where they are in the tent and hear footsteps. I was having a panic attack I thought. Very few films have gave me that kind of feeling.

It is a good film, even though it loses much of its impact on the small screen. It is meant to be seen on the big screen. I remember reading reports of it causing people to experience motion sickness and screw with them more. Mainly cause on the big screen, the image takes up your whole field of vision, and immerses you more into it. Do not get that on a small screen, it loses much of that aspect.

But yeah, for what that film was, it did a great job at what it was going for. Out of all the found footage films I have seen, it is second only to Cannibal Holocaust.

However I wish I had the 90 minutes of my life back spent watching Blair Witch 2.

Sequoioideae 03-23-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 1430791)
Unsure as to how I've managed to avoid watching it until now, but I just saw The Blair Witch Project for the first time last night, at least in its entirety... and it scared the living **** out of me! Or should I say, the ending scared the **** out of me, up until that point I found everything to be pretty mildly frightening. Mostly, I was just annoyed with the bickering between characters, the female in particular. She was just unbearable, and not likable in the slightest sense. Anyways, I have a pretty low tolerance for the horror genre, so the point while they were in the house and all the anticipation that was built around the ending REALLY got to me. Freaked me the hell out. Words cannot describe. I'm sure there are people out there that completely despise this film and all the ****ty 'found footage' films that have followed in its footsteps, but it certainly worked on me.

I've been in those woods, it's kinda freaky that the movie was filmed so close to me. The only thing people know about Maryland is Old Bay, Crabs, Blair Witch Project, Beach House, and Phillip Glass.

Engine 03-23-2014 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sequoioideae (Post 1430805)
I've been in those woods, it's kinda freaky that the movie was filmed so close to me. The only thing people know about Maryland is Old Bay, Crabs, Blair Witch Project, Beach House, and Phillip Glass.

And The Wire, of course.

I also saw Blair Witch Project in the theater and it was pretty effective. Back then (before the multitude of found footage films) you could still fool yourself into thinking that it was real. The audience was enraptured and the final scene stayed with me for quite a while. There were audible gasps in the theater, and they were honest. It was a fun time for horror.

simplephysics 03-23-2014 07:10 PM

After watch The Blair Witch Project, I'm hesitant to ever go hiking again, let alone in the woods the movie was filmed in. :laughing:

Although I didn't get to see it in theaters, I totally believe some people had a hard time watching it, even to the point of getting sick. As much as the camera moves around, I found it a bit challenging to watch, even on the small screen. I wouldn't watch it again, the whole terror aspect comes from not knowing what you're going to see, and what you don't get to see. It wouldn't be as good a film if you actually got to see the Witch, or what actually happens after the filming ends.

Engine 03-23-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 1430824)
After watch The Blair Witch Project, I'm hesitant to ever go hiking again, let alone in the woods the movie was filmed in. :laughing:

Although I didn't get to see it in theaters, I totally believe some people had a hard time watching it, even to the point of getting sick. As much as the camera moves around, I found it a bit challenging to watch, even on the small screen. I wouldn't watch it again, the whole terror aspect comes from not knowing what you're going to see, and what you don't get to see. It wouldn't be as good a film if you actually got to see the Witch, or what actually happens after the filming ends.

I totally forgot about the motion sickness thing but now I remember reading about that, and thinking it was pretty silly. I guess I can see somebody who had motion sickness + high anxiety having to vomit, but I'm sure it didn't happen often. I would have been pretty pissed off if somebody sitting next to me threw up during the film because that would have been a big distraction from an otherwise great experience.

simplephysics 03-23-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430826)
I totally forgot about the motion sickness thing but now I remember reading about that, and thinking it was pretty silly. I guess I can see somebody who had motion sickness + high anxiety having to vomit, but I'm sure it didn't happen often. I would have been pretty pissed off if somebody sitting next to me threw up during the film because that would have been a big distraction from an otherwise great experience.

I've never really gotten nauseous from watching a film like Blair Witch, but it is a thing that happens to some, apparently. Trying to read on a long car ride, that'll do it though. I just found it hard to keep my eyes trained on the film.. like a kind of disorienting effect.

Engine 03-23-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught (Post 1430828)
I've never really gotten nauseous from watching a film like Blair Witch, but it is a thing that happens to some, apparently. Trying to read on a long car ride, that'll do it though. I just found it hard to keep my eyes trained on the film.. like a kind of disorienting effect.

Sort of off-topic but I suffered from motion sickness as a child really badly. If I was in a car for more than 30 minutes, I was definitely going to puke no matter what I did during the ride. I guess I grew out of it but it's probably part of why I always insist on driving as far as i'm able. Luckily handheld video shots never bothered me.

BastardofYoung 03-23-2014 07:52 PM

I read an article on it. They said the reason behind it is because of the camera movement, the way it bounced and moved around. In a theater the screen, combined with the darkness is enough to take up your whole field of vision, adding the the illusion that you are moving. So your brain thinks that you're moving, because it that.

The impact is lost on the small screen, because you only see a small area, and it doesn't take up your field of vision in the same way.

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For some, like Mangesh Hattikudur, 20, the jittery camera was enough to make him feel wretched after a recent screening. Looking pallid and suffering from a headache, he stood outside a few minutes after the show. "The hand-held camera stuff made me sick," he said, clutching his stomach. He did not, however, actually hurl, he reported. His friends were no doubt grateful for that.

"What happens is the camera and the brain mismatch messages," said John Risey, a clinical audiologist at Tulane University Hospital and Clinic in New Orleans. "Because you are seated and you are still, your brain gets wrong information that you are in motion." (Risey has not seen the movie – yet.)

The brain then sets off those woozy, seasicky symptoms. Because movie screens are so large, your entire field of vision is involved and that makes your body feel as if it's in motion, Risey explained. A computer screen or a television would not have the same effect.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...witchdizzy.htm

BastardofYoung 03-24-2014 12:20 AM

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu.../idiocracy.jpg

I watched it for the first time today. I like this movie. I mean, it is probably my least favorite film by Mike Judge. The concept was a really great one, that seemed to not take off the way it could have. But I think that is kind of the point as well, comes across as lazy as the main character. It is dumb, as it is supposed to be.

I think it will take a few more views to really get into, but I will gladly watch it again.

Engine 03-24-2014 12:38 AM

^ I love Idiocracy



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