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Old 04-17-2023, 08:42 AM   #24341 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 04-17-2023, 08:44 AM   #24342 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2023, 06:46 PM   #24343 (permalink)
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It requires a lot more. John Wick for example gives me action that's maybe slightly lesser but everything else is a lot better. The Raid is such a bland, gray movie. Visually it looks like barf. John Wick is colorful and neon and gorgeous in every frame with more interesting lore and characters. Other martial arts movies are also often a lot prettier to look at. And then action movies like Die Hard feature memorable, likeable main characters whereas The Raid's main character is just...a dude who punches good. Just not really what I look for in an action movie although I'm still happy I watched it and I will check out the sequel at some point
It's pretty funny that you bring up John Wick and consider The Raid subpar to it when John Wick's action scenes were inspired by The Raid and other movies that feature the single camera Hall fights. It's like you are ****ting on the movie that is even the main reason John Wick was created. So weird.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:16 PM   #24345 (permalink)
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This sounds like the same kind of debate to be had with someone who always says "the book is better than the movie" whenever a movie adaptation of a book comes out. You dont have to love an original if what it births is it but better.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:57 PM   #24347 (permalink)
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That’s why it’s cool when art inspires new, better art
John Wick's stylization adds a lot to the series as a sort of dumb action flick fantasy epic, but the relatively stripped down grittiness of The Raid serves an entirely different vibe that makes it feel so much more desperate and unpleasant. Both are very similar in some regards but are very different in others but are both still god tier martial arts action movie ****.

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There are pros to that kind of vibe, I just don't like it as much as the hyperstylized Wick stuff. It's not like I gave the Raid a 0/10 or something. It's a good movie. Just not one of my favorites. Inherently action movies are only like my 5th favorite genre, but I'm still trying to see as many of them as I can. There's only so much time in a day unfortunately
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Old 04-19-2023, 08:22 PM   #24349 (permalink)
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Have you checked out the Crank movies? Crank 2 is in the running for best action movie ever.
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Have you checked out the Crank movies? Crank 2 is in the running for best action movie ever.
I liked the first one better, but both are great.
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