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Old 10-19-2019, 08:41 PM   #23091 (permalink)
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When I came out of the theater I felt worse than I did after I went in. I felt seedy and gross and like the human race was worse than I thought they were two hours earlier and I honestly think that's what the point of the movie was even beyond the message because I don't see how it was trying to be in any way uplifting. And as far as I'm concerned ruining your night is a perfectly good artistic intent and The Joker succeeded in that for me. Great movie.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:42 AM   #23092 (permalink)
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Way better than I expected it to be. Both Crowe and Gosling were perfect.

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Old 10-20-2019, 12:34 PM   #23093 (permalink)
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Oh hey chula.

I thought you left mb

I saw Joker too
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i liked the whole tone of the movie but i found the first half of the movie a bit boring, i started to get into it more on the second half. I remember when i first saw the trailer for it and thought "oh no. They gonna humanize him" which is something i personally didnt care for cus to me the joker is such a great villain that i dont particularly want to see him be vulnerable and feel sorry for him but to my surprise it didnt completely take that pity route. Instead it had this unsettling mental problems tone that didnt make me feel bad for him or encourage his behavior and while the first half of the movie establishes that tone well for the rest of the movie i also felt the joker in that half coulda been any character with a mental problem. Thats why i liked the 2nd half more cus it gets to the breakin points where the joker started to surface. Oh and that scene where he meets bruce imo was dumb af. It left me with the lingering thought that the joker is too dam old for batman. I dont mind they tied the story to thomas to create a vendetta towards the wayne family. For me him meeting thomas and that last scene with bruce's parents was enough to tie it to batman thats why i felt that gate scene with bruce felt unnecessary and just awkward.
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Spoiler for Jokes:
I think that they used the Gary Glitter song to insinuate that he is a repressed paedophile.
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Old 10-20-2019, 12:53 PM   #23096 (permalink)
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lol i did get that vibe during that gate scene



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Do you think the movie will start any dialogue about treatment of the mentally ill or about how mass shooting discussions should include society's complicity in creating them?

Cause I mean I think the movie was pretty explicit in calling out society as a whole as being responsible for a lot of things they like to pass off as being simply the responsibility of the perpetrator.
Half the forum turned elph's breakdown into a punchline.

People that portray themselves as something better.

That should be your answer.
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And elph wouldn't still be on this forum if that wasn't how we roll.
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And elph wouldn't still be on this forum if that wasn't how we roll.
Idk about that. It might be the reason he's not on now. Not that he's just some innocent victim of bullying but you guys know how I feel about this stuff.
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